mistreating animals

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by Meliai, Mar 28, 2011.

  1. Meliai

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    Long story short, I stole my neighbors puppy last week because they're assholes and immediately put the puppy on a chain in the backyard as soon as they got it. They didn't even attempt to get the dog back until yesterday, and considering trespassing and stealing a dog is a felony, I gave it back in hopes of going through the proper channels (animal control) to make sure they wouldn't chain the dog up anymore.

    My neighbors are going through a seperation, and the mom and her daughter don't live there anymore. I didn't see the dog on the chain this morning so I think they took her to the mom's house, and this worries me because I have no way of making sure they're treating her properly if she isn't next door anymore.

    These people are horrible fucking people. They used to have two pit bulls chained up outside in the backyard and I am kicking myself for not calling animal control back then. I didn't realize the extent of the mistreatment of the pit bulls until my roommate told me a little bit about it yesterday. I was under the impression that they eventually found these dogs good homes, but appearantly not. Appearantly these dogs fucking died this winter from starvation and cold. That pisses me off beyond belief.

    I grew really attached to this little puppy the week I had her and I miss her like crazy. All my friends think I'm a little crazy for getting so attached to a dog in a span of a week so I thought I could have better luck venting to other animal loving hip forumers. I miss my doggy, even though I guess she was never my doggy :(

    I don't know what to do. I know the mom isn't giving the puppy the treatment she deserves but I have no way of checking on her because I don't know where she lives. It breaks my heart to think of that sweet little puppy getting mistreated :(

    Is it too late to report the pit bulls...could animal control still do something to ensure these people never mistreat another dog like that?
     
  2. Duck

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    I would have called the cops on you if I were them.
     
  3. Meliai

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    Their daughter actually thanked me for taking care of her doggy when I returned it. I think they viewed it more as free doggy day care than theft.

    These people don't give two shits about the dog. They got it for their spoiled little daughter who is going to get sick of it within a month, leaving mommy and daddy to care for it, except mommy and daddy would rather put it on a chain and starve it to death.
     
  4. scratcho

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    You have to follow your heart. You did and I would've.
     
  5. Meliai

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    thank you. legality and morality don't always coincide.
     
  6. scratcho

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    Quite true. Unfortunately trying to save animals from abuse can be a full time job and it's like trying to give a dime to every begger on a Bombay street. You just can't get all of it done.You do what you can do and that's all you can do.
     
  7. lunarverse

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    Tell the daughter that you want the dog, offer her money if you have to.

    As for the pitbulls, what you heard was hearsay, I'm not sure that animal control will do anything about what you think or heard happened.

    As for keeping a dog on a chain in the yard. That isn't against the law. Hundreds of thousands of people do it every day.
     
  8. Meliai

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    its actually against the law within city limits one town over from mine and there is a pretty big movement to make it illegal county wide where I live.
     
  9. goodvibes83

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    You're a good person with a good heart, and unfortunately without knowing their new location I don't know what more you can do about this particular situation :(

    And fuck what other people say about falling in love with an animal so quickly! My current dog, my family and I found at the grocery store, all greasy and nasty. We took her home, bathed her and by the end of that night (4 hrs) I was deeply attached to her friendly energetic attitude. We put up signs all over, eventually getting a call from her owners. I was devestated when I found out who my parents were talking to their owners. anyway they let us keep her!!

    Animals aren't people, it's very easy to fall in love or become attached.

    Good Luck, and maybe you'll get a 2nd chance with this dog, you never know.
     
  10. lunarverse

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    What are people supposed to do with their dogs? Some may not be able to leave their dogs roaming around the yard loose.
     
  11. Meliai

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    Thank you, I really hope so. I'm going to take lunar's advice and offer to buy her.

    It is extremely easy to become attached to animals; they're completely dependent upon that love and attachment. I became attached to this puppy the minute I laid eyes on her. I'm glad you got to keep your dog, what a happy ending :)

    um, not getting a dog would be a start.

    People who chain up dogs should not have dogs because they clearly do not understand dogs. Dogs are pack animals. They want to be with their family, not alone on a chain all the time. It is one thing to put the dog on a long chain while at work, as long as you keep it with you, its pack leader, when you are home and give it proper exercise, but its quite another to keep a dog on a chain all the time.

    Preferably a dog should be housetrained and live inside with its family where it belongs.

    No one is even home at my neighbors during the week. The husband works out of town. They were planning on chaining it on a 3 foot long chain all week. That is cruel and inhumane. I really can't see it any other way.
     
  12. lunarverse

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    Yea, that's terrible. I thought you meant a normal length of chain.

    So how did they know that you took the dog?
     
  13. Meliai

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    My brother knows my neighbors a little bit. He's the one that realized the dog was chained up; he actualy asked if he could take it home and babysit it a couple of days. He lives in an apartment and the dog kept barking so he brought it back after only one night and asked me to check and make sure it had food and water later that day. I felt really sorry for it when I saw it so I just impulsively took it. The wife came over later to give it food and realized it was missing so she called my brother and he told her I had it and gave her my number. She waited a week to get in touch with me; I didn't even think she wanted the dog anymore after a few days of not hearing from her.
     
  14. lunarverse

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    Okay, this woman clearly doesn't want or care about the dog. I'd simply go over to her house and tell her that you want it. If you have to offer her a bit of money. At least if the pup is with you and you can't keep it, it'll have a better home before it finds a more permanent one.
     
  15. RooRshack

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    ....THAT's pretty messed up, and does NOT sound like legislation put forward to protect animals, but snobby neighbors who find them annoying.

    Depending on the dog, they NEED to be chained, it's not cruel. Either for the dogs protection if it digs or if there's no fence, or for others protection.

    I put my dog out on a chain. It's not ideal, but I don't have a run and it's a HELL of a lot better than keeping her in all day. THAT would be cruel. A lot of dog trainers and such say that when outside your home, a dog should ALWAYS be on a leash.

    Don't get me wrong, your neighbors don't sound like great dog owners.... so just ask their daughter if you can have her dog.

    It sounds like your friend might have made something up or expanded on a made up story about the pits, a good pit is expensive and a lot of work, few people would let them die for no reason, even if they don't like the dog and/or don't treat it well.

    Assuming that's not true about the pits, or assuming something accadental happened to them if they did die, there's nothing wrong with putting your dog out in it's new yard as soon as you get it, you want to acclimate it to it's new home, getting used to things, and I certainaly wouldn't put a new dog out in a yard it could potentially get out of without a leash/chain until I'd have a chance to watch what it would do and where it would go, if it's a digger, etc.

    I think you acted on emotion, and understandable, respectable emotions, but I think you should think about the situation at LOT before acting like that.

    Why is it so wrong to chain a dog up? Very little pisses me off more than dogs that are NOT on chains and jump at their fences (or, even worse, don't have one) and menace me while I'm walking, or especially walking my very much smaller dog. They are animals, not people, and you can build a relationship with it, but don't forget what it is and the inherent differences between the two of you. There's lots of reasons to chain your dog, (new or otherwise) and the fact that they did doesn't mean much bad about them.

    Also, what could they really have done about the dog? they put it on a chain to keep it from escaping, so it's obvious that someone took it, not like putting up "please give back the dog you stole from me" flyers will help much. Now that they know, DO NOT do it again, and keep anything illegal on the down low, they may involve the police or animal control or something, I mean, I would if someone stole MY dog :p

    *edit* didn't see that it's that short a chain and that it would be there that often... but still, chaining a dog isn't wrong. If the dog is properly trained, it loves it's environment and the privilages it gets. You must be like yaoi.... a generous, yet vengeful god, and that dog better like what it gets :p

    You'd probly HATE me, I'm currently crate training a chihuahua, bending her to my will and making the crate a good place that she likes going, goes for protection, goes on command at any time, and more. Crate training is the alternative for a dog not large enough to chain, if you go for the day, the dog goes in it's crate, and waits for you...
     
  16. lunarverse

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    As far as I know it's against the law here (bylaw I think) for one's dog to be outside and not on a leash.
     
  17. goodvibes83

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    Once you've paid for and taken the dog into your possesion I might suggest expressing your concern for how the dog was treated. Who is to say they won't just get another dog? They might not, considering the mom may not really want the one they have now. I don't know specifics regarding whose decision it was to get this dog or the previous dogs, etc... but they do have a history with dog's in their lives....

    I really hope they let you take her!!!
     
  18. Meliai

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    If I can get her to let me buy the dog I'm going to definitely keep her, i've been wanting a puppy for a long time. I don't really see why she would refuse me, her daughter can still play with the puppy anytime she's over at her father's so they're really getting a good deal out of this. They can keep the kid happy without the responsiblity that goes along with it.
     
  19. lunarverse

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    Yep, I'd recommend telling the girl or the mother that when you offer to take the dog.
     
  20. lunarverse

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    Oh yea, and don't forget to post pics if you get the pup :)
     

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