Molly vs Press pills

This may sound like an obvious debate, as i think good molly transcends any press pill, but i got in an arguement with a bout 8 people yesterday, and 6 of them said that molly sucked and they like the roll of beans better (on the basis that pills got them "more fucked up"). Just wondering what you guys all think on the matter.

 

i concur. i have only done mdma on one occasion though and it was 80%mdma 20% ketamine. dont ask me how i knoe i just know. at first i sniffed a bump after we grabbed it and felt great but when i was coming down i wanted to be high again. my friend gave me a line. the soze of a motorola razr phone screen corner to corner. and QUITE thick even for my coke/ketamine standards in the past (about the thickness of a penny). so i snort the line up, catch my drip and realize there must have been 6 pills worth of mdma in that line. and it all hit me at once. and it was pretty good except i was proally kinda k'd out too (there must have been like 3 bumps in that line) but i managed. eventually i puked but i was still really really good. at 6:30 am i started to come down at the bus stop and got tired and a little sketchy. and went home and slept.

what i liked was the fact that i didnt overdose really, and even the fact that i did and that it was okay. not as bad as taking 6 ebombs at once

what i didnt like is the short-livedness of the mdma. it really doesnt last that long, and neither do good pills. i tend to really like the pills that fuck you right up. yep. this is why i dont love mdma. but ive given pills a break all together.

 

What?

This whole thread is ridiculous!

MDMA = Pills.

If your pills are having any other effects than that of MDMA, it means there's something else in them that's changing their effect - ie speed.

Try EATING the MDMA like you would eat a pill, and you'll find the effects should be identical. I'm going to guess that insufflating it would give a shorter and more intense buzz, but if you ingest 100mg of MDMA orally, that should be the equivalent of one fairly good pill.

Edit: And the suggestion that pills should be favoured over MDMA because of how much they "fuck you up" is quite possibly the most irresponsible thing I've ever heard said about pills.

 

What Myke said. Also about 75% of MDMA (probably more) sold is just "pressed pills" that have been crushed into powder and then sold as "Pure MDMA" because it alows you to rip off idiots in a new way.

The same rules apply for "MDMA" as apply for ecstacy pills. It might be pure but it probably isn't. I always hear people saying ridiculas things like "ahh yea MDMA is much better than pills, you don't have a "rocking jaw" or anything, it's just really pure". It is the MDMA in ecstacy that make your jaw tight (do some *reliable* research). I typed about another hundred words in this reply but deleted them because, whats the point. *******JUST BECAUSE ITS A POWDER AND THE PERSON YOU GOT IT OFF SWEARS ITS PURE MDMA DOES NOT EVER NEVER MEAN IT IS*******

 

All the MDMA I've ever bought has been in the form of crystals with a brownish tint. I dunno where you're getting yours, but you shouldn't overgeneralize like that.

Edit: A good warning nonetheless, but I've never come across that kind of scam before personally - maybe I'm just a bit lucky.

 

mollly bro......PURE mdma....where i come from molly is powder and beans are pills...this thread is totally relevent so chill with the negativity

pressed pills that i get usually have 50 mgs of MOLLY with cracnk amphetimens ketamine w.e....thats four pills...2 tenths (200 mgs) of molly is 20 dolars, its cheaper..more potent...in general. i got some rolls with the active ingrediant in roofies in them once, so what im saying is do you prefer the fucked up concoction....cause i fucking GARENTEE you dont get pills with 100% pure molly and no additives

my connects are legit...they get there drugs through the hells angels bro, you dont know shit so dont talk like you do apparently u dont...do not doubt someone who you dont know, the pure mdma roll is distinct kid...its doppy, visual, you pass out after 4 hours....clearly you dont get good shit....when you lick an e pill, its kind of bitter, thats how you can to a prelim test for potency, when u taste pure molly you almost puke, its much more bitter and potent and anyone who knows anything knows this, just because you buy random pills at raves and get shitty stuff dont doubt....sorry about the rant but i hate when people who dont know me talk shit, ive eaten an grotesque amount of molly and rolls alike, and my shit comes through hippys not sketchy ravers...


by the way crushing a roll and parachuting it would would not give you the same roll as good molly dude your retarded

 

MDMA is the chemical, not a name of a type. The same chemical is used in pressed pills and in molly. The reality is that Molly is more likely to be clean, whereas pillsl are more likely to have "additives" like meth or caffeine or any number of things. But either way - pills or molly, they can contain adulterants and the only way to know for sure is to buy a test kit and test them.

That being said... Your friends probably do get more fucked up off of pills, because the pills probably contain a smallish dose of MDMA combined with Meth. Some people actually prefer that MDMA/Meth combo- it will give you euphoria and speedy, make you dance your ass off all night. Personally, I prefer MDMA only- I love the euphoria and empathy without the speed. Which is why I test my pills, and will not take anything that tests positive for meth or caffeine.

I have never done molly I've never found anyone selling it. But if I did find some, I gaurantee I would test it for purity first.

BTW- the recommended dose for MDMA is 125mg. Whereas the typical street pill will test out at around 60mg or so. So basically you need to take 2 pills to get the recommended dose of MDMA. Unfortunately that can be dangerous because if your pills contain other adulterants, you are doubling the dose of those as well.

 

This post is so full of stupid.

 

haha whatever bro...i didnt mean to insult you you seem cool but you obviously dont know jack shit so im not wastin my time on this arguement...go ahead eatin your shitty ripoff ravemolly i could care less...i know whats good and whats bad

 

Yeah I take your point Hemisphere I supose I shouldn't really generalise like that, its just I see more and more people "re-branding" pills as pure MDMA as the demand for pure MDMA goes up. Obviously if your getting crystals and you have a reliable source you have a pretty good idea what your getting. Its just when I talk to some people and see stupid posts like PsychMyke's talking about tasting pills to test thier potency, that thier are no such thing as (relatively) pure MDMA pills and that thier source is reliable because he goes through a bunch of wanna be hardman bikers (and then goes on to say he actually buys through "hippys not skethcy ravers") it annoys me that people can still be so niave in this day and age. For the record Psychmyke you say "clearly you don't get good shit", I rarely do mdma or e anymore but when I do I get it straight off the factory floor so to speak, so there is no question of it not being "good shit".

 

http://www.ecstasydata.org/

Take note of the amount of pills on this list, labelled "MDMA: 1"

I don't think I need to explain what that means.

And no, MDMA doesn't make you "pass out after 4 hours", it's not "distinct" from MDMA in pill form (of course there are some pills that are different, but in many cases it's EXACTLY the same substance)

And as I already mentioned, my "shitty ripoff ravemolly" is pure crystals with a brown tint. I'm talking big crystals (some like 1-2mm across) - you dont't get that from crushing up a pill.

Edit: Of course, that's not to say you WON'T pass out on MDMA after 4 hours, if you take enough and it totally floors you, but then you'd pass out on the equivalent in pill form too.

 

i got a gram of mdma last night, it has the right taste and looks like sugar, with some lumps and some finer bits. however it is pink and has a slight fruity flavour to it.
cant wait to enjoy it

 

A fruity flavour? That's odd. I can't really imagine what would give it that taste - particularly given the standard overpowering bitter taste you should expect.

 

yeah i could only just taste a slight hint of fruit, the crystals still have the horrible bitter flavour
im thinking bomb an 1/8th of a gram to start off with then drop another 1/10th when i start coming up.
this sound ok?

 

Fruit flavored??? Definitely cut with something- maybe baby laxative??:rolleyes5

 

Uh.. actually you do need to explain- not what that means, but what you mean.

"MDMA: 1" means "one part MDMA". If you look at the list, you see many other substances listed along with the MDMA in most of those.

For example:
Caffeine : 20 Procaine : 5 Ketamine : 4 MDMA : 1
The numbers all represent a ratio. In the above example, there is 20 times more caffeine that MDMA, 5 times more Procaine, and 4 times more Ket (that is one nasty ass pill!)

Anyway... Look thru the data and look for pills that list ONLY "MDMA: 1"- those are the pure ones. Their data clearly shows there are a lot of pressed pills that are pure (also shows a lot of bunk pills). Their data also shows a lot of bunk molly.

Basically- there is not ANY generalized statement that molly is always better than pills.

 

Well then, let me requote PsychMike in the hopes that you'll understand my point:

He's basically claiming that there's absolutely no such thing as a 100% MDMA pill.

I'm not suggesting even for one moment, that dodgy pills don't exist - Of COURSE they do, but pure pills exist too, and they're not uncommon at all (if you have decent connections, you'll rarely get dodgy pills) - hence I linked to ecstasydata.org in order to prove this.

 

AH!! Thanks for clearing that up for me- I understand your comment now.

And I think my post just supported you 100% that pure pills are out there, just like dodgy molly are out there.

its black market- no one is making sure we get quality. Buyer beware

 

bombed .1 yesterday to check it was all good, amazing from what i can tell
i think your misreading the strength of the flavour though. its got that very bitter mdma taste with a very very slight taste of fruit, 1 friend who tasted a little bit didnt even pick up on it.

 

cut with sugar perhaps..?