Most efficient way to consume Pharmahuasca

Yesterday I tried my first attempt at pharmahuasca, A syrian rue 10x extract and 125 mgs Dmt freebase was used. I consumed ~ 400 mgs of the material Im guessing (it was incredibly gooey so weighing it was impossible) and felt the effects from that within a half hour. I then consumed the dmt at the 45 minute mark and got practically no sort of trip/journey from the experience, I got some very subtle effects that possibly could have strictly been from the rue altough there seemed like maybe some slight dmt somatic effects.

I am wondering:

if possibly the maoi properties of Syrian rue are only available in the plant, And the extraction basically removes these?

If one should not use dmt freebase?

The Dmt spirits did not want to come out?

Whats the most efficient way to take both? Same time or staggered?


I'm almost certain I didn't wait to long as to my knowledge the maoi's work for a few hours so it seems I should have got some trip. Perhaps those experienced or knowledgeable with pharmahuasca can offer some insight to these questions so no one else has to face the disappointment of losing a couple dmt trips like this failed attempt I had yesterday.

 

I've read a lot of conflicting things about pharmahuasca both failed and successful attempts. i've never taken pharma but will share what i've read about it. reports of both timing and dosage have varied greatly.

if you only have dmt freebase I have read to drop it in some orange juice preferably but any real fruit juice will work to acidify it. this makes it easier for the body to absorb.

for the timing i've read everything from consuming together to 45 minutes apart. the most success has been maoi first and 10-30 minues later consume the dmt dose. 10-15 minutes makes the most sense to me because you want to keep the enzymes in your stomach busy while trying to get the dmt into your intestines.

I can't really help on dose because it really depends on how efficiently the mono amine enzyme has been blocked but it sounds like you had a decent dose w/ your last attempt.

hope this works out for ya man i'd love to read a pharma TR

 

Thanks for the reply I got 1 more dose worth of each, and I really want to try it again but Im also down to my last bit of freebase for awhile...

Eventhough it was extremely subtle, I was actually quite impressed with where the body high seemed to be going.

 

hard to say... you did eat the syrian rue extract and not smoke it? i only ask bcos it wasn't clear to me... ummmm... also 45mins is a little long to wait i would have thought... i would try after 15 mins next time... as to the extract being effective as a MAIO, i would think it alright, but truth is, i just don't know... let us know how you get on please

 

Yah I ate the Syrian rue extract and some of the plastic baggy it was stuck to also

K maybe I'll take it down to like 90-100 mgs so I still have 1 smokable trip left and give it another go this time eating the dmt 15 mins after the Syrian rue.

 

sounds like a good plan! i've never seen an extract of syrian rue... as it is so sticky, it might be an idea to make a tea with it too, instead of just ingesting it sticky like that? just a thought... and yes, just 15 mins later...

so yeah, let us know :2thumbsup:

 

It was originally solid I believe but melted in my bag, has a taffy or almost industrial paint 'sticky/gooeyness' texture and tastes like bitter toffee.

 

disgusting taste i'm sure, but i would still make a tea with it... and drink quick once cooled a little but while still warm... such a determined young man

 

the problem is you didn't acidify the dmt when you took it. best way to take pharma is to eat 3-4g of syrian rue, 80-150mg of freebase dmt. and after you take the dmt drink some lemonade, or eat an orange. and you should feel effects in 30 mins to hour and a half.

 

also one thing is you should take the syrian rue an hour before ingesting the dmt.

 

an hour? I took the dmt 45 minutes after the syrian rue this time and it didn't do anything, I think I may go with the above posters suggestions of 15-20 minute range but I'll get some OJ or lemonade this time.