Music from when I was in high school

For any of you out of high school for a while... (I graduated 11 years ago)... do you ever find yourself saying "Most music nowdays is crap. Music from when I was in high, now THAT was music!"

I remember being in the car listening to my mom's oldies, now I'm the one subjecting my children to hits from the nineties.

When did this happen?

 

It happens to everyone. You are just maturing.

Don't think I'll ever appreciate rap...I've tried.

 

i'd swear rap was invented for the sole purpose of so there could be something actually worse the country and western. although it's still pretty much of a tie.

(and there's been a LOT of good popular music since i got out of high school. actually my favorite kind of stuff, the tecnology to make it with didn't really exist, unless you want to count some very rare, exotic, and unimaginably expensive adaptations, yet when i was in hight school. i was well into my 20s before the first production analog synth's came along, and in my 30s before digital and probably my 40s about the time midi first appeared. oh there were vacume tube therimins come to think of it, and the mighty werlitzer organs, but that was about it. and people doing strainge things with recording tape, like physicly cutting and splicing it!)

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you're an idiot.

hip hop was invented as a form of expression for mostly ignored and opressed blacks.

and don't make judgements based off of the shit you hear on the radio, that isn't even hip hop in my eyes.

 

No, I never find myself saying that. I do notice however that I like more music from the nineties now then in the nineties. I missed the whole new psychedelic rock scene back then, I was more into black metal, 80's heavy metal and 'classic rock' or how I used to call that stuff back then. Also with one foot in the grunge scene (which I really have grown out to be honest) and a bit in the electronic dance, trip hop and drum 'n bass subgenres. And more of course, but these were the main things I think. I appreciate some trip hop (i'm pretty selective) and electronic dance/psytrance from the nineties even more now.
These genres have all evolved to some good things and some bad things, but because there's a lot of good stuff around now days, I can't see myself saying to the youngsters that "Most music nowdays is crap. Music from when I was in high, now THAT was music!"..
Actually, to me it appears there's not a whole lot of difference. Grunge and alternative have changed for indie, post rock and the likes, the dance/trance stuff has evolved to more subgenres, same for metal, but in both scenes are still good artists and bands, although some promising bands from the nineties have let me down unfortunately (bands like Cradle of filth and Dimmu Burger for example), but they are replaced by other good black metal stuff. And happily the space and psychedelic rock scene is still florishing.

 

i am very well awaire that there is a small percentage of it, a very small percentage of it, that says things politically that need saying.

but it still romantacizes aggressiveness, which is it's resemblence to c&w and which in my perception makes it crap.

and my awairness of it did NOT begin with the limited range of crap broadcast on clear channel et al, but in the days of vegimax and people on the street doing it impromptu where i was living in portland oregon at the time.

it is also used by inconsiderate people to rob others of their freedom of though by driving arround with their windows down and their 'tunes' turned up. an act of acoustical vandalism that is not victumless by any streatch of it, and needs to be severly prosicuted. for that matter, no matter what sort of music their doing so with.

but at any rate, all this IS long after i was out of highschool, even 'over 30'.

when i was in high school, there were these four guys from england, perhapse you've heard of them, when the first appeared to american audiences they looked a bit like the four stooges, that was just before they let their hair grow out and the real hippie era came along.

at the time, you really couldn't tell if they were any good or not, until their first studio alblems to be sold in the western hemisphere started showing up, because what was played and shown of their public appearances, the audience, especially the young girls in the audiance, where screaming so loud, you could hardly hear what they were singing. (which at first, was mostly pretty simple sounding stuff).

before them and arround the same time, we had songs like the one eyed one horned flying purple people eater, the itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polkadot bakini, du du du duke of earl du du, and so on. (and i'm NOT saying those were all that great either)

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honestly, that isn't hip hop. they should have sub genres for rap like rock. the shit on the radio would be dance, hip pop, and just plain following trends.

hip hop is expressing reality.. the ones who rapped about guns, drugs, government, police, whatever, did it because they encountered it. then you have some who do it because they heard somebody else do it and it got popular. it's a very fucked up genre thanks to the radio and puff daddy and the owners of the industry, and a lot of people will never fully understand it.

 

Rap is bad, it's horrible. Take for example the song: Crank dat, what kind of a stupid/boring ''song'' is that? I'm also surprised that so many teens enjoy that song, it's sad, really sad. And to the TC, yes most of the songs nowadays are indeed crap, that's why I listen to songs from the older generations (90's, 80's). I just can't believe how of a big impact that rap has on teens, even people in their 20's. It's very very stupid, that's what I personally believe. People are so ignorant, for example, let's say you make listen some 80's music to some teens nowadays, you got a big chance that they won't like it and would say rap is better. I just hate rap, that's the thing. I respect your opinion if you like hip-hop and rap, stuff like that but what makes me think and question myself about society is the impact on teens(about rap, the way they dress, talk, etc). I listen to techno, rock and metal. Most of my friends and people I know at my school are surprised that I don't listen to rap, weird eh?

 

see, i just don't like people referring to that gay ass soulja boy shit as rap. if a song is a rap song, it has to include some..you know... rapping? instead of just repeating the same slang bullshit over and over with weird background noises.

theres also some who at least rap, but not about their life or observations, they are merely mimicking something that has already made cash for somebody else, who probably mimicked somebody else, etc.

the reason people hate rap is because they think what they hear on the radio is rap, when it isn't. it's pop. if they would hear some real rap, they would change their minds imo. rap is an aspect of hip hop, as is graffiti,etc. it includes MCing, which really doesn't apply to anybody on the radio. that shit isn't hip hop by any means.

rap isnt horrible formertechno, crank dat is, but that just isn't rap.

do you atleast get what i'm saying, did i even change your views a little bit?

 

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I get what you mean but still, it won't change my views. I mean I know how rap is today compared to the other generations but still. Most of the songs of rap talk about bitches, how they fuck them, how they got them, money, cars, etc. I just hate that and don't tell me there's something great about it because there isn't. I mean even if this is not the ''true'' rap, then what is it? In any case, wether it's good rap or bad rap, I'll never like that genre of music anyway.

I'm just no fan of rap and probably will never be but I respect the fact that you like it, and yes I respect your opinion.

 

im not going to tell you theres something good about fucking and making money, there isn't.

true rap:

nas
pete rock
talib kweli
wu tang clan
blackstar
jedi mind tricks
dead prez
krs one
tupac

probably others you haven't heard of, because if you have, you would express the opposite views of rap.


you just need to look outside the radio, it won't come to you.

but you saying that you just simply won't like it is close minded. you're merely basing that off of what mtv says is rap.

 

Listen buddy, I've listened to Tupac and people like him, Notorious Big, etc. I think they are great artists and I enjoyed some of their songs especially Tupac's. I mean yes, they were good but today's rap is horrible, that's what I'm saying. And no, I'm not closed minded. I just don't like rap, doesn't mean I'm close minded. Eminem is another great artist in my opinion, he has a great talent and that's rapping. No one compares to him other than Tupac and Notorious Big. They have great songs, I'm just not a huge fan of them and especially not a fan of rap of these days.

 

thats really what i was just trying to say..

i guess you misunderstood.

 

Well i was in high school from 1997-2001, so when i first started, it was hanson, the spice girls, and marilyn manson, and later it was the backstreet boys, nsync, ,korn and limp biscut, so no, i definatly don't find myself likeing the music that was on the radio when in high school. When i was in middle school on the other hand, it was still the grunge era, and i loved that. but once 1997 came around it all went to shit. And i agree that older rap that told about the reality of the streets was fucking awesome. even if you dont like the way rap sounds, it was something that had to be told, and something that older people will probly never get.

 

i'll put in a vote for one hop-rap whatever you call it group i kind of think are mostly ok. the're called With Out Reservation. there a bunch of urban native americans restoring pride of heiritage to young people of indiginous ancestry. i'm not flat out accross the board condeming spoken word poetry set to sound sculpture as an art form.

to reiterate, what i AM knocking, and you'll note i include most of so called c&w for the same reason, is the romantacizing gratuitous of aggressiveness. i don't care how real anyone's supposed experience of it might be. i have my own. so did people like satchmo and sammy davis. without feeling like they were doing the world a favor by ROMANTACIZING IT!

their response was to do just the opposite. to romantacize what could be. what we wouldn't have the kind of crap being bitched about if people romantacized and persued what could be instead of belittling it as too utopian or somehow immature to dream and hope.

the way satchmo sang about what a wonderful world while being kicked out the back door of the very places he was making money for by bringing in the crowds for being black and so on.

anyway, even janice and jimmi were about hope, and the marleys especially.
and them four guys from liverpool by way of hamburg paul mccartny was with before wings.

yup the cream and the fudge, jefferson airplane, jethro tull, its a beautiful day, even paul revere and the raiders, the list goes on, where what was happining when i graduated high school. and shortly after that, the moody blues, iron butterfy, the association and tangarene dream.

when i started highschool though it was still like kingston trio, peter, paul and marry, and the tag end of bee bop from the 40s and 50s. year i graduated was 66. me and alaskan about the same age.

oh and there's good stuff being done now. but you won't hear most of it on comercial radio. just on pacifica and the idies. or on the net. i'm still into what you might call berlin school ambient electronica. hearts of space kind of stuff. numina, aeterna, rogue elements, all people doing new stuff in THAT genre TODAY. also jam bands like blue turtle seduction and cosmic wobble and so one. and something called filk, most romantacizers of mundane aggressiveness have probably never heard of either.

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Even though I'm going through high school right now..yeah your music was probably better. Almost all music nowadays is crap. Like modern pop-rap, pop-emo, normal pop...and metal. It's not even metal. It's death metal and screamo. It's not even music it's like beating a baby to death with a guitar. Horrible instrumental, and horrible singing. It's just NOISE. i'd take techno, the beatles or old rock bands like van halen any day.

 

I just feel like a douche bag whenever I listen to rap. Alot of my friends listen to it and went its blasting out of our car and we drive by some black kids I just feel like the biggest wigger wannabe fruitcake ever. And when I'm by myself, I just feel like an idiot listening to it. That's my problem with rap.

 

someone in another forum just reminded me about zager and evens, in the year 2525.

that came out after i graduated high school, but fairly shortly after, with a year or three.

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when i was in both middle and high school (1970-1976) the music was almost all shit! i thought all the other kids had shit in their ears. they all thought i was weird because i listend to almost all classical. in 1976, just about the time i was getting out of high school, groups like the sex pistols and talking heads came along and, put new life into rock and roll. then disco came along, and i was sure civilization was about to fall! today music is all shit again! there is one hell of alot great music out there from expermental artists... none of the really great artists stand a snow balls chance in hell of making it big! i guess most people just love having shit in their ears.