After getting plenty of dosage advice from forum members, I decided to try out 22mg of 2Ce on Saturday afternoon. I wasn't exactly sure what to expect when I ingested a gel cap I had measured out from the night before. A long time forum member gave me a very wise recommendation to stay home during the trip. I was glad I stayed home. The weather was pretty windy and I don't think I would have had a good time dealing with unpredictable swirling winds. The trip lasted approximately 12 hours. I was expecting around an eight hour trip. 1-4 hours. I took the cap around 5 PM saturday night and didn't feel anything for about the first hour or so. Around 6, I started to come up and the first thing I noticed was the bathroom walls stared to move in a geometric pattern. It was similar to coming up on mushrooms without all the stomach cramps and other digestive discomforts. About 30 minutes later, the visuals came on much stronger with changes to depth perception and color changes to various shades of everything that I looked at. I took a step outside just to watch the clouds take different forms and colors for a few minutes while the sun was setting. That was pretty awesome. The winds drove me back inside pretty quickly. watching a 30ft tree moving while you are peaking on this RC was unsettling. Watching TV was a pretty strange experience. There were pixels around various people and objects on the screen. It looked like my HDTV wasn't HD enough for my eyes at the time. Also, I felt a bit out of body at the 2 hour mark. In all honesty, I was getting a bit anxious since I wasn't sure where the peak was at this point. The one positive was that I was still physical able to perform routine tasks like changing the channel on the remote, folding some leftover laundry, and navigating around the house to do some odd tasks. Hours 3 and 4 were a bit of blur with all sorts of visual hallucinations that weren't quite LSD or shrooms like. I was able to still think in rational terms of what was going on in the world around me. I think if I had been in a environment where I wasn't familiar, I would have lost it. Personally, there was no way for me operate a vehicle at this point and highly recommend against anyone trying to operate any sort of heavy machinery while on 2Ce. 5-8 hours Around 11PM, I started to level off. I wasn't so much interested in the all the stuff that was moving or changing shape at this point. I started to understand what folks were referring to about the drug being introspective and I started to think about a lot of things that were happening in my life. That's a whole another story which I won't bore you at this time. I did one thing that will stay with me for some time. I was able to reconnect in some way with one of my family members. If nothing else, I was thankful for that revelation. I was finally able to eat something around the eight hour mark. 9-12 hours Around 3AM, the visuals started to die down but depth perception of the things around me were still distorted. I was debating whether to smoke a bowl but decided against it. I wasn't sure how the combo would react. I sat and watched a movie for the last couple of hours. The sun started to rise around 6AM and I decided at that point to take a nice long hot shower. It felt awesome. I crawled into bed around 6:30AM still feeling a bit jittery but managed to fall asleep for about 5 hours. The aftermath I woke up with a pretty good headache. I'm not sure if the headache was caused by the 2Ce. It could have been just the lack of sleep. I was pretty useless on Sunday. I took another nap on Sunday afternoon and still wasn't feeling right. I did manage to get a good night's sleep on Sunday and felt back to normal on Monday. All in all, the 2Ce was definitely a worthwhile experience in the visual spectrum. I was slightly disappointed that the auditory senses weren't stimulated as much. I tried to listened to music but everything sounded very thin or tin like. Anyway, thanks for letting me share.
Sounds like a nice experience. 2ce is awesome. Next time, lie down and listen to some music with your eyes closed. 2ce is the best music enhancer I have ever ingested.
Spot on breakdown of the experience vis334, I respond the same way as you do to 2ce. It's a relatively clear headed, powerfully hallucinogenic psychedelic. I also agree with you about the auditory effects, I feel music is enhanced to a degree but it feels like there is constant reverb or 'tin like' effect as you put it. I find the music enhancement of 2ce doesn't match the Hyper clarity, hanging onto every note physical feeling of music like Ecstasy and I don't feel it provides quite the synesthesia that a good dose of LSD does, I feel both those psychedelics make the music feel like it's interacting/talking directly to me as where I feel a disconnect with the music and musicians on 2ce. It is a good nature drug though, the clear headed aspect of 2ce prevents it getting too hectic once you are in the enviornment you want to be in. Smoking Weed went well on the comeup of 2ce for me the first time I tried it, kind of relaxed my jitters a bit and masked some slight nausea I had.
Standard TNS quote But ya, music is greatly enhanced with 2Ce for me too. Maybe even a bit more than lucy. Really. Interesting. Music on L is amazing, but still might be a bit more so than 2Ce and I'm not sure I can describe how. What kind of dose gives you synesthesia with L ? I've never experienced that and it's no biggie if i never do, but I think it would be interesting to experience.
My first time on 2 hits, I was listening to 2pac and I saw 'digital ivy' grow out of a wall and form a silhoutte of 2pac's head on the wall. On 3 hits I've heard words in a Beatles song and it triggered about 15 minutes of a false memory of me living as my friend as a child. Those two tabs were the same source and by far the most potent I've had but I've had it happen a couple other times on different tabs as well like playing guitar to Hendrix on 4 hits and sort of tasting, swallowing notes out of the amp, I can't really play guitar on 2ce all that well.
Well better than I, I don't play at all. Interesting though, both the visions and the synethasia.. To OP, ya thanks for the tr. It sounds like it hits you harder than average. My first time with 2Ce was a just a tad less than yours and no where near as strong or long as yours. Actually, I haven't had any visuals to speak of until a 50 mg experience a few weeks ago. Glad it was a good experience for you :sunny:
The auditory effect of LSD and especially MDMA really can't be compared to 2ce. I have had fantastic experiences listening to all types of music on L & E. The visual effects of 2Ce is so strong that it makes the other senses almost a non-factor. At least, that's how I felt for most of the trip. What I did notice was a low level humming that was pretty consistent throughout the trip. Maybe a deep b flat sound or beat.
Yeah, I tried that. I put on my beats and listened to floyd, trance, 80's heavy metal, and a few others. The music wasn't doing it for me. As far a I know, I took a moderate strong dose by most recommendations. There is no way i would have handled the negative effects on a 50mg dose. I would have trip for a full day. The supplier guaranteed purity and I haven't doubt that for second.
That's what it's all about tho. There's no reason to do more than one wants and a fullfilling experience is just that, doesn't matter what it takes for someone else :sunny: I'm not fond of the negatives of 2ce either, I think I'd be quite happy if I never did 50 again. Thats something I like about 4 aces, not a single negative bodily side effects for me. And much trippier
ditto i've had it on LSD several times i'm sure, but one example was 1.5 sort of weak hits at a FESTIVAL. setting may have just as much to do with it. i get pretty good musical enhancement with LSD, but i think (slightly) better with even low doses of 2ce. i'd say that it hits the OP "normally" and you just need more than average 20 mg seems to be plenty of 2ce for me. on the other hand i might like heftier doses of L than you (voyage) might prefer.
That might very well be true. After several experiments with 2Ce, 20 is somewhat mild (tho the first time was pretty nice ) 30 pretty good, 50 very psychedelic but with just a bit too much body load and GI irritation. Do you think its common that 'most' people get the kind of visuals and thoughts OP did on 20 mgs? Ive not had any other than slight, until I did 50 Apparently so. I think L either hits me very hard, or there's something about the experience that just melts the connection between my cognitive awareness and the deeper mind, much moreso than PEAs. BTW while you were cruizing, I did a trial with T7. Twas only 30mg but didn't do much at all.
Bump for a massive equadorian grad party across the street tonight. I don't know if I'm glad I have to work tonight or not. I know one of my cat's is not happy. He's a pussy anyhow. I guess he likes blues, rock and trance better than latin music.
Good to hear back on your T7 trial Voyage, I'm trialling myself tomorrow at 50. Know everyone's different but to hear you too got nothing much around 30 makes me more confident to take it to 50.
Good luck with that Cheez, and be safe. I received two suggestions to go between 30 and 50 first time out. I imagine sometime I will do 50 next time, but not expecting much as 30 was so spectacularly 'bla'. Do hope yours is worthwhile and psychedelic mate :sunny:
I find the discrepancy in effects between 20-50 mgs is far less than the setting I'm taking the trip in. I felt 52 mgs was more rapid and the sensations were more intense but other than that any difference in effects it produced seemed like things that could be chalked up to set and setting. I actually felt my initial 2ce trip on ~20 mgs in the forest and my 52 mgs experience in the park were more similar then when I took 20 mgs and went to a club. I get a lot of object misidentification on every dose range of 2ce, like I'll look at an object and it will either appear or register as something else but it doesn't feel connected to my deeper mind like you mentioned with LSD, it's more random and more arbitrary, but it seems Many respond similarly to how you do to 2ce though. I think my expectations were set too low the first time I did 20 mgs and then they were set too high when I did 52 mgs, I was expecting 50+ to have a deeper fragmenting of reality effect similar to DMT/salvia but I didn't really experience anything like that, I still felt very much 'here'.
