my mother pisses me off

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by sweetdreadlover, Dec 23, 2006.

  1. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    So I call my mom today to discuss pre christmas plans, and she is in the local IHOP eating breakfast.she says "you would love this omlet Bree, it has mushrooms and peppers and swiss cheese"..and i say"mom i dont eat eggs and dairy" she flipped out wanting to know how i got protein and i said soy and beans and rice and she says you cant get everything you need from that and i told her yes i can ive been doing it for a month now.now she thinks im anorexic and wants to take me to a doctor and so forth and so on, and is trying to force non vegan foods in my face..what am i going to do??...knowing her shes always tried to control me but food wise she'll do anything she can to force dairy in me....
     
  2. napolean inrags95

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    just be firm, but not confrontational. explain your moitvations politely, and dont give in or be hesitant or else she'll probably just keep pushing.
     
  3. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    I would just go to the Doctor. He's not going to say "YOU'RE UNHEALTHY!!!", and your Mom will look abit of a fool.
     
  4. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

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    my moms the same way, but she doesnt eat anything herself, so when she brings it up i just reply "at least i eat SOMETHING!" :(
    i did a lot of research on vegitarianism and the health benifits and showed them to her. best way to challenge negative people like that is with the cold hard facts.
     
  5. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    plus side: mom would pay for the physical
    down side:
    you doc could be a fool and agree with her.
    third scenario: some moms understand intellectually until they get a great omlette and wat to share (not that I consider IHOP food.).
    I still occasioanlly have to remind my mom that no, I don't even eat fish (and haven't for 22 of my 26 years of being veg. it was a concession during my health only years)
     
  6. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    she keeps telling me crap like im gonna get cancer from not enough protein...lol..terrible..and the funny thing iis i know its not true....and she thinks my veiws on animal rights are ridiculous and she ggets angry with me when i bring up anytihng i believe in.
     
  7. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    You bring up things just for confrontation?
     
  8. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    um no...but when she literally tries to shove a chunk of fish down my throat then yeah im gonna say something...or she'll talk about stupid treehuggers and the way they eat then yeah im gonna defend myself
     
  9. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    Protein isn't usually a problem for vegetarians like most people think.. Mostly its harder to get certain vitamins and minerals.

    But eating two incomplete proteins (like rice and beans) gives you all the essential amino acids, and you don't have to eat both at the same time either. If you eat beans one day, and eat rice another day, you've made a complete protein. And there are plenty of foods with amino acids.
    The only way a vegetarian would have low protein is if they were really uneducated about what foods contain what nutrients.
    Sooo tell your mom that. =)
     
  10. Dakota's Mom

    Dakota's Mom Senior Member

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    That was the first thing my FIL asked when he found out that I don't eat meat. "Where do you get your protein?" Uhhhh, from food.

    My MIL who was told a while back that I'm veggie now, made turkey with all the trimmings for dinner yesterday, including a pork stuffing. She's never made pork stuffing before, but she did this year. My christmas dinner was corn, green beans, and sweet potatoes.

    Kathi
     
  11. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    ah yes well i went through hell at my sisters birthday on wednesday.my older sisters wanted to go to a local pizza parlor...thank god they had a salad bar....my older sisters tried to force cheese pizza on me(my little sis is way understanding of me, and respects my decision)i declined very nicely while my husband explained that i do not eat animal biproducts of any kind(hes such a sweetheart)my sisters rolled their eyes and got all pissy with me ...i got up with my little sister to go use the restroom and came back a few minutes later to only discover they had dumped cheese in my soda and were laughing about it....i got called a dirty hippie dippy and that soy is apparantly not meant for human consumption(dumb people.) blah blah blah...it was horrible...me and my husband and my little sis and her husband were more than happy t5o get the hell outtta there..i cant stand that kind of behavior at all
     
  12. Kiz

    Kiz Member

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    The person who put cheese in your drink was how old? Four or five?
     
  13. toothfairy

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    I had the same shit with my father in law about protein, but he was a guest in my house and we only see them once a year, so I let it slide. According to him, beans, tofu and seitan have no protein. I just told him we weren't dead yet, with a sweet smile.
     
  14. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    sweet dread,
    people suck, don't they?

    It's time for you to plan the Big Speech.
    the Big Speech is when you calmly gather people in YOUR home (so theoretically they will behave) and explain to them that these are your personal choices, much like the choice of a lifemate or where you attend college, or what car you drive, and that you are hurt by their lack of support --you need to be beyond moo-ing at the table, or lecturing people about their choices for this to work-- in what you are undertaking for personal health.
    Empathize that is hard to dine out and avoid animal products, but that it will be your responsibility to handle the situation (here's is where you suggest great places for the groups to go to make it even simpler). But explain that you cannot continue to be in public with people who think dumping cheese into a soda is a) acceptable or b) funny.
    promise never to slip tofu into their food (and hold true, always tell them) without their knowledge, because you respect them as individuals with their own choices to make.
    be sure and give your sweetie props for his support, and apologize for any mini-lectures or whatever. (brownie points as well as good for the relationship).
    This makes him look good in public, something we in mixed partnerships need to do, a lot.
    Explain that you undertook veganism with whatever mind and heart set you have, and the research you have done, and the support you get (and don't).
    talk about how you hope it will result in better heath for you and how it aligns with your worldview.
    Explain it is NOT rebelling against the family (even if that was an original motivation: you are at make it all work mode)

    remind them that you are not out to convert but you will answer questions that are genuine.
    Head off the main ones at the pass, shall we say:
    I get protein from, calcuim from, iron from, zinc from, etc etc.
    then metion how good you feel physically.
    If you have weight issues, point out how this can equalize your size.

    If you are at the point where the vegan groceries are not more expensive in toto than the omni groceries, point that out. (sure some of my gourmet stuff is expensive, but without cheese and meat, my groceries are a bit less than the omni side, and that is taking in the portions into account- my sweete eats about 2/3 to 3/4 of a meal. I get the remaining portion, and usually leave something on the plate for the next day.)

    I'd practice the Big Speech with the little sis for tips on the rest of the family: she probably knows what they are saying when you are not there.
     
  15. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    wow drummin that is one hell of an idea...can i ask u a quesgtion?..what do i do with the sister who took nutrition classes in med school?...shes the one im gonna have a tough time with...but i think i can do the rest and i think even make them see my side and why i deserve to be treated with respect as i do them.thanks so much!!!
     
  16. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    try 34(35 in february) and 37....
     
  17. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    talk with her separately: see what her concerns are. or if she's just bashing in a family triangulation bit (you know three sisters alway have someone picked on)
    remember they have the right to be respected, too.

    as for chatting with that sister, did she actually get a degree in medicine? and sorry, a nurse is not the same as a dietician, or doc. all have their worlds of expertise.
    get nutritiin info from the usual suspects (even USDA has a veg option) and avoid PCRM/ Peta at all costs: too loaded.
    with all the places to check your diet on line, like www.sparkpeople.com, (I'm there as truepeacenik and could use the referrals.. I'm on a vegan nutrition community there) run a weeks food and see what it says.
    once you have it on par, talk to the med school sister.

    the discusion will not be fluffy pink bunnies and roses. You are challenging centuries of thought on nurturing the body. and "how mom did it."
    It's sort of like being the only female in the family that breastfeeds. Someone will see it as an attack on how THEY do it.

    Are you planning on university?
     
  18. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    geez fucking louise.
    I've got two years on the older one.
    I might snark, but to ruin a perfectly good soda? (Hey, I limit myself on these) and waste food? please tell me they were trashed.
     
  19. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    naw oddly enough this was the night no wine was involved...ive always been the one who gets picked on by them...theyve always seemed jealous me and my little sis are younger...i dont know why, but they hate being 30 something instead of a teenager....and as for my older sis she has a degree in dietician and in respitory therapy, and shes the one im having the hardest time with.
    see my oldest sister is a ceo of a company and my other sis went to med school...my little sis is 20 and im 22 and we enjoy simpler lives that are not so hectic and enjoy spending time with our familys. we are both married, but find it quite alright that we dont make 200 or 300 ks a year, and my older sisters frown upon that as well. i guess you could say we are very very different sets. ive always said its like me and my little sis are sisters and the older two are sisters and we arent really sisters with each other. then theirs two brothers stuck right in the middle who dont seem to fit in anywhere..

    anyways im getting off topic but yeah shes going to be the hardest person to talk to also for the fact that she likes to argue and wont shut up until she wins...this also is another reason ive been avoiding talking to her.
     
  20. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    well, it's not like it's debatable, right? she can't convince you to return to omni, right?
    so there is no argument, any moreso than coming out of the closet. This is you, for better or worse (although they can wish all they want. I wish my sweetie would take down a really big tournament and secure our housing. And i wish I could afford grad school without working. and that men would leave the seat down every time.)
    So remember, you are NOT asking permission. You are telling them "this is how my life is and you are welcome to be in it if you are respectful."
     

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