My Ordeal With H-Pylori

Hi Y'all,
Sorry for the scare eariler in 'We Were Going To Change The World' thread. I thought I was really having a heart attack and I was scared and by myself, you all were my only contact, I just reacted.

To start at the beginning I will have to give you some history. I was injured at work in 93' and went on a regiment of pills. I started having stomach issues and found I had 5 bleeding ulcers. The doc said it was from taking the pills on an empty stomach for so long, made hole in my stomach linning. He said he tested me for H-Pylori and I tested negitive.

I stopped taking the pills and went herbal. My problem went away. I had no more pain or any discomfort in a few weeks with veggie, fruits and herbs. I thought I had cured it.

In May of last yr. I had an attack of chest pain that knocked me back in my chair. My hubby was home and took me to the E.R. I was then transported to a larger hospital where they did a heart cath, and found no heart disease. Cool. But still did not explaine the severe pain I was having in my sternum area. With no insurance I was not a canidate for any more test so they cut me loose. I waited to see if the pain returned, it did not. Not till this morning.

I was sitting at my desk the same as last time and I got this griping pain in my chest again. I reconised it as the same pain in the same location. It shot across my chest and localized in the center of my chest. My throat got tight and I had a pain in my upper back, my left arm had pain down to my little finger.

I thought WTF, not again..as the pain griped me and then would release for a few minutes and then grip and release again and again. I thought, OK this is it. I just knew it was my heart, as nothing else was wrong, no symtems of anything unusual.

I called my neice at work which is closer then 911 could have gooten to me and she ran into my hubby on the way and they got here b4 I called 911. I didn't wanna call 911 bc they would bring the laws with them, and well, you know. Anyway, they took me to the E.R. and they ran some test after they found it wasn't my heart.

The tests came back positive for H-Pylori, as stomach bacteria that embeds in your stomach linning and causes cancer, or may cause cancer, I don't know if I have cancer or not, they did not test me for that. They gave me a prescription for some poison to kill it off but the cost for one weeks treatment was $338.37. I don't do poison pills and I'm not paying hundreds of $$$ for them either.

So I am going to do it with nature, after all it's what I do. I am starting a regiment of anti-oxidents, like Blueberries, Cranberries etc, Leafy Greens and fresh juices and pleanty of water. No caffine or alcohol, no greasy cheese burgers or icecream, just wild game and produce.

I will probably get tested for cancer so I will know what I'm dealing with and get it off my mind. If it is organic, then there is an organic cure for whatever it is and I will find it.


If you don't mind walking with me for a while. I will post my progress.

sh

 

Glad you're OK.Had me scared especially since you were'nt home when I called.
Zev

 

Our thoughts, prayers and love are with you sh

 

Thank You for you kind thoughts, my family.

I was in the E.R. for like 5 hours waiting for test results, sorry I missed your call Zev dear, forgive me for worring you.

Wyld, sweetie thank you for caring. Love to you too.
Love to all of you, the ones I share each day with.
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Today I start my program. I have decided to start with Garlic and Onions, raw. The reason for the garlic and onions is they contain Sulpur, which kills parasites and is concidered a strong anti-biotic. I have to kills the bugs first before I can expell them.

As Batceria is a 'BUG' that must have a host to survive, I classify it as a parasite and will theat it as such.

I have found that Low Stomach Acids is an ideal place for Pylori to thrive, so along with the garlic and onions I will add some Apple Cider Vinegar, Lemon or Limes to raise the acidity level in my tummy. Instead of my morning cup of coffee, I will instead drink Saffron Tea. which sooths and heals the Intestines and lining of the Stomach. Along with the Saffron I will add Slippery Elm Powder which will help with elimenation.

To be truthfull, I am little more then concerned bc, along with this, I have Hep-C in my liver(dorment right now). This concerns me bc H-pylori can cause Stomach cancer that spreads to the Liver. With my liver in jeprody I feel anxious. I have been feeling my liver complain lately, maybe over a year, perhaps closer to two yrs.

I have read that 70% of humans carry the H-Pylori Bacteria without knowing it, untill the 'Coloney' has taken over and created Bleeding Ulcerations in the stomach lining, which can develop into cancer and spread.

Too much Magnesium and Vitamin D will cause Low Acidity in the stomach. Me, like a nut was taking Milk of Magnesia bc of heartburn and constipation. Man, I was causing an excelent inviroment for Pylori to thrive in without knowing it.

I had always been low in Magnesium and had to suppliment, now I find the opposit is true when Pylori is present.

Pylori is transfered by, feces, saliva, and other bodily excreations, on produce handled by unclean hands. Hell you can get Pylori from the handle of a grocery cart, or doornob. You can kiss someone and get it too. Passing a doob can also spread the Bacteria, as we leave siliva behind.

There is no way of knowing who is carring the bug. There are no tell tell signs untill the pain starts. Even then it's difficult to dianose without teats. There are Three test to find H-Pylori, one is a blood test, one is a Breath test and the other is an endoscopy. I had the blood test.

AS no one cares about womens health around here, I am headed for Tyler where they have better equiptment and more knowledge to get further tests on my stomach and liver. Since I have become aware of my Liver, as in, I can feel a little discomfort in it, I suppect involment.

I realy don't want 'their' cure, bc sometimes it is worse then the exsisting problem. But I need to know if it is developing into cancer so I can treat it as such.

THat's all I have for today, but will keep documenting my progress.

Bright Blessings, and WASH YOUR HANDS.. (i am always washing my hands) but someone else that I come in contact with may not.

sh

 

Sh, I have had to learn more about hep-c than I have ever wanted to.Just about everyone I know has it. And I have been through just about every scenerio that goes along with it. Taken care of brothers and a sister, ect. But this is a new one. And I will walk with you here. From what I see here at the forums of you,, you are a fighter, and thats half the battle won there! Blessings and much Love,,,,

 

Oh my....sending healing thoughts, vibes, prayers your way SH!
:grouphug:

 

Thanks for the Love my family

I'm trying to approach this with courage and determination, head on, buttin' horns with it, as is my warrior spirit. I really don't fear death itself, but I'm not real fond of pain.

I believe in the natural way, I have seen and experienced too much not too. I know in my being I can get above this frequency that my body has develpoed, through my own stupidity, in trusting doctors with my health. They just hand out pills like they would fix everything, but the truth is, they do more harm then good in the long run, in too many cases.

So, here I sit, with my lemon water. I am trying to raise the Ph in my body to hopefully make it an unfavorable enviroment for the parasite Helicobacter Pylori.

The Hep-C is going to be a handfull if it decides to make it's precence known. I am adding Milk Thistle to my program; 350 mls 3 x a day. I started on Blueberries yesterday, but they were so yummy I ate them all . I couldn't help myself I was hungry.

Blueberries contain the most anti-oxidents for fighting free radicals in the body. Fresh Blueberries here cost 6.99 for a half a pint (the other berries are almost as high, being out of season), not very realalistic as an everyday addition to the program, so maybe next time I will just add a few a day, along with less expencive anti-oxidents.

After my lemon water, 1/2 a lemon to 12 oz of water, I will take Two Tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar and a tablespoon of Black Strap Molasses.

If I survive that, I will have a grapefruit in a litle while. The lemon and grapefruit will add vitamin C as well as raising the Ph in my stomach. Vitamin C is also a free radical fighter.

I'll have Yogurt for dinner/lunch and broiled chicken with lemon and herbs, brown rice and a veggie stir-fry for supper. I usually drink almost a gallon of water every day and I will still be getting at least 1/2 gallon of pure water, along with the lemon water Twice a day.

I would like do do juice therapy, but again not realalistic for out of season veggies, so Carrot Juice will have to surfice (carrots are cheap and chocked full of nutrients). To the carrot juice I will add some celery and a tomato. I'm trying to locate some Broccoli Seeds to make sprouts from as they have a very high souce of vitimins and minerals, Broccoli Sprout and Avacado on stone ground whole wheat bread makes a healthy and nutrious meal. I'll do the juice for inbetween meal snacks for energy.

Well that's my regiment for today.

Bright Blessings everyone

sh

 

Nails;

Be careful; There are M.D.s and Osteopaths who also respect holistic and natural remedies. You can find one if you try. Excluding either path can be dangerous. And get things right (and out of sight)so you don't have to be afraid to call 911. Feel better and get well soon
Love
Zev

 

Blueberries are a gift, better than cranberries on the system.I use them alot. For your juicer, Carrots are great, dont know about celery, but I like the taste, Tomatoes are a nightshade,,, beets are good for the liver,,thankyou for shareing about how it can spread. My Mum taught me not to sit on public toilets, and thank goodness I dont wear panties, and I hate any form of britches, I'm a skirt girl, so I can squat or lordy knows what else!EH? LOL! ( a lil humor not bad for the spirit.) Lovin you brave Lady*

 

Zev, if there were docs here that, incorporated both worlds, it would make it simpler, but there isn't, plus, I have no insurance and they will not see me without it. I think I have it down as to what to do. I got a message as I lay in neitherworld to use Liquid Clorophyll, as no living organisum can survive in liquid oxigen. So today my program changes. I will not eat anything today, and start the Liquid Clorophyl. Taking it on an empty stomach will drench them buggers will the clorophyl and kill them dead.

I'm waiting for the full moon so I can take some Liquid Black Walnut Tincture. as parasite 'hold on' to you with their teeth, during the full moon they let go to procreate and that's when you zap them... hummm, speaking of zapping, I need to find a zapper (electrical conductor that zaps the parasites) and try that on these pylori bastards.

Luv, The carrot, celery and tomato is one of Edger Cayces remodies for cancer, ya don't use it for the taste, it's medicine Laughter IS the best medicine Luvi gal. Thanks for the giggle.

Both my sisters have Hep-C also, Lynn my sister closest to me age wise has hep-c and took inerfuron and she is Hep free as of now, my oldest sister Morgana, is doing inerfuron right now. It's a type of chemo pill. It make you lose your hair. I lost a BIL from hep-C and he never did a drug in his life. I think it's a gov thing to take us down.

Love and More Love
sh

 

Spirit takes our lives certain directions for a reason...what a blessing that you know so much about holistic medicine! Will blueberries grow up your way?

BIG HUGZ & MUCH LOVE!

 

That it does Cinn. We all travel our own paths to get to the same destination. The key is the helpers you meet along the way. The ones that bring encouragement and carring.

I'm hoping I know or can learn enough to beat this one, there is so much negitive information on it.

I have tried my had at Blueberries here, they will grow, as there are Blueberry Farms close by. I have not had much sucess growing them tho.. I did get a few but the plants died the following yr. I am planning on starting a new Barry Patch and start over. I lost ALL my berries and grapes last yr, they didn't come back with the spring.

Thank you for the healing energy sweet Cinnamon

Bright Blessings
sh

 

Well, I'm going to have to change my stratagy. I'm going to have to cut food out alltogether for a time. Food is irritating the ulcerations and causing pain.

Today I am going to just have liquids. I took my Slippery Elm in an ounce of water around 5am and then a cup of Saffron tea at 7 am.

I started having pain last night, I had been eating food that I know I shouldn't., I had been having rolled oats with apples cut up in it and a dash of cinnamon and that was cool no problem with the oats.. I am finding there are things I cannot eat.. I love to eat so it is haard for me to juice fast, but I have to do something to relieve the pain.

It looks like it going to be a process of elimination.. I have to use the foods we have bc we can afford to let it waste. We eat fairly healthy, not as much so in the winter bc of lack of fresh produce, but for right now it's strictly liquids and maybe some yogurt.

I remember Ruby my alternitive health teacher telling me about 10 yrs ago, that nothing can live in pure oxigen, so my plan of action is to super-oxigenate my stomach with Liquid Clorophyl... 350 mils straight Clorophyl, 2 teaspoons, every hour. I took my first 'dose' at 8 am. The pain has subsided somewhat and I am able to sit up.

I am more then a little confussed with all the websites concerning Helicobacter Pylori. The docs saying the natural way doesn't work, the natural folks saying the docs cure don't work. Then come to find out the natural folks are selling the cure for 1/2 price..sigh.. I think I am on my own with this one. I will have to pull it from within, bc I see no other way.

If I do a cleanse First, and get all the trash out of my belly I may be able to get this under control. I suspect Candida Albicans involvement also. I have yeast breakouts when/where I sweat. I asked the doc about this when I was in the E.R. and he said he didn't think so. I read that Candida is associated with Pylori and I suspect a connection with the two.

H-Pylori is a realitively new disease and the books that I have do not cover it, so, I am going to have todiscover a new method. I am re-reading Arnold Earets, Mucusless Diet and hope I can find something in there that may help me. I will let ya know how it's going.

Bright Blessings
sh

 

Hey ya kiddo,
A friend of mine just started kiiling a yeast that takes over, no sugar or anything that makes it,flushing it out.It's weird cuz when ya first brought this to our attention, in the back of my mind, her problem popped into my head.Hmm.Anyway, it sounds like your doin everything ya can.I feel awful when anyone is in pain,I am sending you all the good energy I can.Your a tough cookie,hang in.Maybe take a day off from reading, searching online.Be kind to yourself, we'r rootin for ya!

Namaste

 

Are you taking time for mind recharge SH? meditation, yoga, or some such? A good friend of mine swears by Light therapy to aid in herbal healing. And over the summer, I took part in a transindential(sp?) healing meditaion for a sis who was in the hospital...lots of folks all focused healing energy toward the sis at the same time...she said the energy exchange was incredible & her health started to improve almost right away.

 

Yes, Cinn. I am. I am doing a lot of spiritual healing, letting some oldrepressed feeling go. Getting in tune with the core of me. Trying to unwind the intaglements my life is threaded with.

I came upon enlightenment or shall I say a reconnection the day before yesterday. I was sitting with my nephew Ian who is 38 and is rainbow. He lives here on the farm with us. We were watching the history channel and the phone rang, it was dil Cindy calling from ND, just to chat.. we were talking and suddenly I became aware of strange colors that seemed to radiate from right next to Ian. I watched for a minute or two, making sure my eyes were not playing tricks on me.

In the center of this radient light that looked like sheets of prisom was a form.. it was reddish color, the Light was all around Ian, and then started moving over to my hubbys chair ( he was not in it) it moved slowly, not touching anything. I said to Ian, 'There is someone sitting next to you Ian' and he just kinda slowly looked over to his left, he didn't see it right away, not untill it moved from Lynns chair and was on the table between me n Lynns chairs.

It was right next to me. I gentely put my hand in the Light and felt it tingle, I removed it slowly and the thingling stoped, I put my hand in three more times with the same result, then the Light moved over me, it was all over me, my head and body, but not past my waist. I went into full lotus and let go of whatever I was thinking, doing or feeling and just opened myself to whatever it was..

I was telling Ian what I was seeing and feeling, he now could see the Light too when it reached the table. Cindy still on the phone was hearing everything that was happening. I felt relieved, not a whoosh or rush of anything in particular just kinda peacefull.

The light lingered for about a minute and then either went in me, or behind my chair bc it never came out to the otherside of me or the chair, nothing, it just dissapeared. It made no sound, it did not touch the ground, it floated. I didn't see the form that was inside it again after it started moving away from Ian and towards me, but it did not make a straight line to me but went with the shape of the room..Ian was sitting on the love seat which would be to my right, Lynns chairs to my direct right with a table inbetween us then my chair, my book case and the living room door, the hallway and either out the front door or down the hall towards the back of the house.

Me n Ian just sat there for a minute looking at eachother after it passed. I related what was going on to Cindy and she said she would call me back. Me n Ian both saw the same Light, like glimmering prisoms in slices of wavy color.

I do not know who or what the Light was, but it was good, neither ones of us felt threatened or alarmed, just in awe of it's splendor. It was a real attention getter that is for sure.

I don't know if it was Raphael, The Angel of Healing, probably not bc if it were he, I would be free from what is ailling me. Perhaps the message will make it's self known. I can't see why the Spirit would come without one. If I am meant to know I will know when it is time.

I have been trying to keep my ribs outta my stomach, by sitting up straighter and streaching. I really haven't done any active excersizing tho.. I kinda lack energy right now. Nausia and grinding in my stomach is not allowing me to do a whole lot, but between bouts I try to accomplish a few tasks everyday. I keep my mind on healing from within. The Liquid Chlorophyl and Slippery Elm, the Saffron Tea is also soothing and is healing the holes.

Love and Hugs
sh

 

Wow! What an intense experience! Thank you for sharing that.

 

If it was the Angel of Death, it did not take me, if it was the Angel of Life it did not heal me. I do not know the message that was carried and that, I just don't understand yet.

I hope I will know, Perhaps the message was not for me but for Ian, I'll ask him when he comes over this morning, if he had any revelations since we met the Spirit.

I have seen many spirits, my house is like a portal at times. There are Spirits going up and down my hall way several times a day. Not only human like spirits but animal spirits too.

Year before last, my niece Angel and her son Matho came to livee with us after her husband Pride died of cancer. Matho and Angel were in the kitchen and I was in the living room sitting in my chair. All of a sudden, I see the little round backed thing scurry out of the hallway and ran right beside me and then behind my chair, with Angel and Matho hot on its trail.

They were hollerin' 'where did it go', and I just sat there pointing behind the chair. I was not alarmed as I had been seeing 'spirits of a long time running up and down my hall.

But what I experienced with Ian, was very different. I hope I'm allowed to know what it was about.. Even stranger, East Texas was reporting UFO sightings that same day. Stranger then fiction.

Bright Blessings
sh

 

Cakes;


I too have no medical insurance (Don't as Ask!!).So I know how it is. But doctorwise NYC is a great resource. In your neck of the woods, The place to look for doctors who combine Eastern & Western knowldge is probably Austin; where the U of T is. That town has traditionally been known to be a hip place with enough alternative lifestyle people to keep a hip doc or two. Check it out.

However, you seem to have a handle on the holisitc side so keep on. Any info you can give me on treating diabetes without going bankrupt would sure be appreciated.


Love ZEV

 

Wonders never cease.Zev's right, we do have good everything holisticaly.I am sittin here w/ my sis, she is an acupuncturist & chinese herbalist.She says they have remidies that take a few months but kills parasites.40.00 45.00 dollars a bottle, if you are interested.Only a practitioner can purchase, but she could ship it to you.Each bottle is about a months worth. I am gonna email you her #, and please call her and talk to her. One of my gifts in this life are dreams, and doin hookups for folks.Love ya,,,check your email.