Need info on Salvia

I am on probation and have 4 random drug tests per month so I have not smoked pot in over a year. I just heard about this Salvia stuff and was thinking about trying it. Is it anything like pot?

 

I am also wondering if it is cool to smoke as a joint?

 

smoking it in a joint won't do anything. first, go to erowid.org. then read some older threads about salvia in the salvia section. it's legal so you wouldn't get in trouble for it, but it's really intense and might not be what you want.

 

Intense is just fine with me. I have done my fair share of intense. Thing is I don't want to have a bong because of probation. Would a pipe work or should I just get a small water pipe?

 

I went to a local headshop today and picked up some 25x. I took one hit off of it and I am amazed at how strong it is. I had my girl here as a sitter. I only took one tiny hit and was amazed how how strong it is. I'll be trying it again next weekend with a bigger hit.

 

all you need is a plastic bottle and some tin foil man. Crude but effective and you can throw it all away afterwards(this mightn't be a suitable choice for the environmentalist, but with the man on your back its the safest way to do it)

Hole in the bottle, lots of pinholes in the foil. Put the foil over the hole in the bottle, make an airhole in the bottle and use the foil as a gauze.

 

Another thing. I know its widely believed salvia doesn't work in joints, but it worked for me. A strong grass spliff spiced with a healthy amount of 30x hit the spot. Just hold in each toke for approx 20 secs and wait for thne buzz...

 

Salvia isn't illegal in all but like 2 countries. The man isn't on your back unless you have a bong with cannabis resin in it. Salvia needs constant heat to be really active, so a butane torch lighter on a glass/ or metal slide is the best option, not to mention it's environmental and it won't taste like melting plastic. Salvia isn't a replacement or a substitute for marijuana or mushrooms; it's very much it's own drug. It's not something you want to be doing at parties; it's a good drug for the purposes of meditation.

 

I hope you get Allzheimers..

Salvia is great, I say (if this can be afforded) it's a good replacement for pot on probation: Salvia improves your memory, that's a plus right there. It also gives you a very euphoric and very pleasant "high" for an hour or two and if you want to take it to that level you can buy 10x or higher and trip the fuck out at the same time. When and if you get back in the weed game then lace a blunt with some 20x, it's great. You don't trip out or anything (in my experiences weed seems to dull any hallucinatory effects that salvia has (along the lines of actually trip ing out - as far as distortions and movement, they still seem to be there every once and awhile) but it increases that special "gravitational" high that you get. The last time I laced a blunt with it walking through a schools hallway was crazy, every pillar I passed by my flesh felt like it was crawling towards it. Almost as if it was peeling right off of my body and being pulled into the pillar. It's so great..

If you are over 18 then you can own a bong as long as you NEVER let anyone take weed to it's bowl. If there is one speck of THC in there then you're in deep shit (assuming your PO is a dick).

 

The salvia "high" lasts around 10 min.
If your experience lasts longer than that, your head shop gets good shit.

 

Also, I have never had trips like these.
Mine are short lived and very mellow.
I'm envious!
(Bongs usually don't work either, the water kills the active chemical.)

 

Hey everyone, first time posting here but I've been reading for a little while. I just did my first saliva experience (I think it was 13x) and it was something all its own in my opinion. Right after I took the hit (and a half, half of my first hit fell out, so I took half, then got a fresh pack) I sat down and thought somebody threw me inside of a pringles container... then it hit me full force.
I instantly forgot I smoked the stuff and I forgot what existance was, I thought I was under a truck being dragged along the road over the same pot hole continiously. Then my friends were staring at me, and time froze... I thought I was stuck in time, they said I was moving weird because in my minds eye I had to get in the exact position I was in when I "froze time" or I would be stuck in this eternal limbo. Some people walked in my roomates dorm (where I was) and told them not to bother me I was on salvia, I thought everyone was ignoring me (It was like those PSA where they do some shit like offer someone weed, then freeze and someone says "what would you do in this senerio?") I've tripped for real before and this was so much different in my opinion. I don't know if I can say it's more intense, honestly it seemed to be in a different spot all together. I thought it was real and I was trying to fix it the whole time, I thought I would be stuck there forever, It was more of a mindfuck then a trip... but fun non the less.

 

Then I guess I get good shit because I'll be completely sober minded and take a hit of Saliva and be high for an hour or so.

 

Haha I just read my previous post and it doesn't make any sense. Apologies, I was comming down from the stuff and still highly confused about what just happened.

 

Nah.. I say it's a trip exactly.

 

True, bongs do kill a larger ratio of THC compared to tar, but it's not even a signifigant enough amount - in other words, the only time a bong is pointless is to better your health, it's just a little harder on your lungs.

 

THAT IS THE BUMMER ABOUT SALVIA. TOTALLY INTENSE AND MAGICAL - BUT SO SHORT!

Does anyone know of a legal substance that has the effects of Salvia, but lasts longer?

 

I don't think I would want that haha, no idea though... wow everytime I do (a big hit) of salvia I just try to get out, hard to imagine doing that for a few hours... it would be an adventure though

 

Salvia is a very unpredictable drug, there are a few constants in trips ( pulling feeling, spirals/tunnel vision/rotation, talking to someone that isn't there [Lady S] ), but getting to that trip is the tough part.

I've smoked 15x 4 times now, and have only had one experience that would be considered even close to a trip. I was using the plastic bottle pipe method, because I had nothing else to smoke out of. When I tripped my words were muffled and everything slowed down, everything just seemed bulky and akward. Was a great trip which included half of the room spinning like a hamster wheel and pulling the right side of my body into the wall. It wasn't frightening, but I was pouring sweat by the end... so were the other two people that tried it with me. It was insanity.

Quick facts about salvia for you: There are no known drug tests that detect Salvia. It CAN give you an awesome high that can exceed that of pot... which is why it is sold in head shops as a replacement. You CAN smoke it as a joint. My friend rolled a fat joint of 15x and smoked the whole thing, and he said it was the best high he has had, better than any amount of pot he had ever smoked. I also had a nice high every time I smoked, though that's not what I was shooting for. Your best method, according to some research, would be either a gravity bong and a butane lighter, or a hand pipe and a butane lighter. I can't say which. I have yet to try the gravity bong. According to everything I've read, the hotter the salvia burns, the more effective it is. Keep a flame on the extract the entire time, keep it hot, and get a good hit or two, holding the smoke in for at least 20 seconds each time.

I've been experimenting for a week now, but I have to wait for about two weeks until I can really finish them up and leave an exact blueprint of what works for me and what doesn't. From what I've read, chewing salvia is the best way to reach the more 'meditative' effects of salvia... best way to trip. You can get an ounce of dried leaves for under 15$US. Soak the leaves for 10 minutes, and chew them for half an hour, swallow the juice but not the leaves. At the end of the 30 minutes, spit the leaves out. You can let it be at this point, you should be able to feel the effects starting by the 30 minute mark. You can add a hit of smoke to the end, for a bigger effect. Just be careful, I don't know if you would want to hit just the leaves or try the extract. This is the best method that I have read about, and I will confirm/deny in about 2-3 weeks.

Salvia's a great plant, but it seems like everytime I use it the experience is either different, or nothing at all happens. Won't be able to say much more about it until I've given it a full chance. Thanks, and let me know if any of this works for you.

EDIT: I googled this forum so sorry if I covered anything already written in other threads... Also apparently using a pipe and a torch leaves the smoke too hot, etc. Still reading sorry

 

I just tried it last weekend. I took one tenth of a gram maybe a bit more, of 15x. Made a bong to smoke it with. Used a torch and got two large hits. I felt very relaxed and buzzed durring the first hit before it was even totally inhaled. held it and dont remember finishing the second hit. I then left this world went into a spinning black hole for a bit. Then i was jumping from one reallity to another still spinning or folding into the universe. I could feel people in my like standing around me at certain points. I was looking or listening for them but they would fade away. I think I was trying to find something to grasp onto. I realised that there was no reallity and that the molicules or energy that makes up my body was only temerary and my time was up. at this point i became scared and started to reach out. I began to reallize my surroundings a bit more at this point and could here my wife talking to me-she was my sitter. I came out of it and was still detached for quite some time but knew what the hell was happening. Very intersting trip. I have done a fair amount of halusenagens and been very mind fucked but this was so different. Very scary for a moment but once back not so bad. I started out with way to much i guess but that is how i usually do things for better or worse. Still trying to piece it all together. just thought i would share. And i at the end was sweating quite abit. I soaked two tee shirts to the point of being able to ring them out. Drink water after doing this if you sweat the way some do.