Never done acid, Dare I......

OK now I've done shrooms before, and enjoyed it for the most part. The first time I took WAAAYYYY too much and FLIPPED out. I took almost a 1/4 of some STRONG ass mush and after about 20 hours of tripping I went screaming and yelling through my neighborhood because it wouldn't stop (Absolutely INSANE!!! )

Now my question is if I tried acid would there be a huge difference between shrooms or just a lil here and there?? I mean I experienced the morphing, floating, mind melds and that kinda stuff but should I know anything else?? I've read up about Leary and his experiences but are there any other key points i should know about acid that'll help me before this weekend??

 

Well I'm not super experienced in either drug but from my trips they are both pretty different from each other. Acid for me had many many more visuals, stronger ones too. It lasted A LOT longer but at the same time I felt like I could function much better than when I was on shrooms, which was weird because on acid I felt a ton more messed up. Haha that might seem a little confusing but you will just have to try it and see. I think I might like acid just a little more but maybe thats because I've taken it less, who knows! Just have Fun dude! By the way how much are you taking?

 

Well the guy puts 2 drops per sugar cube and says they are MADD POTENT (Which everyone says but still) so 1 cube....I was thinking 2 cubes but last time I took too much my mind was fucked 8 times from sunday lol but i'm still undecided.

 

If he's actually putting two drops of liquid acid on each cube, and you freaked out the last time you took a large dose of psychedelic drugs, then you should absolutely not take 2 cubes.

Have you had many subsequent good trips from mushrooms, or do your trips have a tendency to go a bit nuts? I took a couple of silly doses of acid last year - 3 tabs the first time, and 2 drops of liquid the second time, both were absolutely terrifying. I've had many good trips since then, taking no more than 1 hit at a time, but even then I feel I'm often at the threshold of what my mind can comfortably accomodate, and I think partly that's because I foolishly jumped in at the deep end (as you did with mushrooms).

If of course you've gone way past your initial bad mushroom trip, and now feel completely comfortable with the psychedelic experience, then go ahead and take one cube, but not two. tbh I'd ask your dealer to sell you cubes with 1 drop on, then you can take one at a time, and decide a couple of hours into the trip if you want to take more (or you could always crush the sugar cube up and eat half a cube at a time, which would work just as well).

That said however, it's quite possible that your dealer is trying to take you for a ride. I mean, why would anyone put two drops on each cube? Is he charging you on a 2 hits per cube basis? If so it could easily be a cheap way for him to sell his acid for twice as much - an inexperienced tripper isn't going to be able to tell the difference, and so long as it makes you trip, you probably wouldn't suspect. I'd ask for one hit per cube personally.

 

Well I mean i've had some kinda rocky trips since then but i'm always tripping with a friend of mine (an old head) which subsequently is the dealer i'm getting the acid off of lol but he can usually help me pull myself back while tripping. I'm sure if I asked him he'll do it for me I just wanted my first time to be hardcore ya know(I like my shit intense) lol I didn't know if there was anything I should look out for that's different on acid than shrooms. BTW he's letting em off for 5 a cube, is that good in your opinion??

 

5 for 2 drops?
thats a steal my friend

idk go for the 2 cubes haha
... not a good idea but it could be fun or bad
just be chill. But really 2 drops is nough... 1 is really enough haha butttt if you like it intense Id go for the 4 ... but im warning you now 4 drops of strong shit will knock you on your ass. Dont expect to remember anything .
Have fun! and be safe!

 

Hey Hemisphere I'm just wondering if you get any good visuals off of one hit? It seems like that wouldn't be enough to really see some cool things. But then again I can also only manage 1 or 2 hits I think but I've never really seen anything that intense...

 

yeah I ate one hit a couple hours ago before I came to work, its very clean, a nice body high, some internal visuals both archaic and geometrical but for the most part a mild trip, now those UFO's going around in 2000,just one of those could set me off on a true galactic expierence, really the visuals I get when I close my eye's are how I judge good L, and remember L is a psych drug made in a lab mimicking serotonin or so the body thinks where shrooms are a poison that the body is defending against and reacting to, both open door's to other dimensions just with different keys

 

Of course you get great visuals on one decent hit!!!!!

Anyway, difefrences: They are both hallucinagenic but IMO thats where teh similarity kinda stops. they'll make you trip but in REALLY different ways.

Shrooms and visually more melty and smudgy and beautiful and floaty but physically if you take too much there's a need (I find) to lie down and not move.

LSD is visually mathematical, graphic, superclear, connected and at times ugly. (although at times super beautiful.) It gives most peple a lot of energy but it can also be VERY confusing until you've peaked. Then you reach this plateau state which means you stop feeling so confused and for many people makes you feel like you understand the universe and everything in it.

Generally mushrooms are considered somewhat internal and LSD external.

As long as yoru mind seta dn setting are good you should be fine. Just remember its YOUR mind that makes bad trips happena nd YOU control it. I say this many times because peopel tedn to forget that teh goodness or badness form their trip is born from their own heads. A bad setting can mess you up as you can't control it but even that is bearable if you have the right mind set.

If ssomething starts truning messy or bad just change yoru focus. YOu can treat all yoru senses like they have volume controls on them. good luck!

 

ive never done acid before and i am gonna hopefully do it for my first time this weekend. From what i have heard from people who have done acid a lot u should start with 2 hits

 

You can always take more but you can never take less

 

Save intense for the second trip. Aim for "lets not get f*cked in the head in a bad way for 12 hours messing up my concepts of sanity" for the first.

 

Yeah I've heard people recommending solid doses for the first trip, and while it's true you don't want to take half a tab or something, I think taking like 5 hits the first time is a big mistake. There's just no reason to start with such a dose when you have no idea if you're going to have a good time or not.

 

uhh, nope. psilocybin resembles seretonin WAY more than acid does. they both get in through seretonin receptors.

anyways psilocybin is non-toxic, and the part of the mushroom that we see is meant for reproduction, meant to drop spores and wither away. the way i see it, psilocybin is an incentive for animals to eat the mushrooms.

a caveman spots a pretty mushroom growing out of a pile of mastadon poop, picks it up, eats it, goes into hysterics for 4 hours and figures out the whole universe, comes down, eats some berries, and passes the undigested spores out in his poop.

a couple days later, some more fruiting bodies apear for the next caveman =D

 

I missed this earlier, but I think this is a really good post, both about the differences between the two and your advice about bad trips.

Some more thoughts on the original post... to me, acid is a lot more "fun" than mushrooms. You see, unless you're wigging out, you can actually do things while on acid. Walk around, buy some food, play guitar. At least I can, even on pretty solid doses, once I've peaked (as redpoppy says, the come up can be a little disorienting ). Acid can make your mind race though. If your freakout on shrooms was a mind racing, heart beating fast kind of freakout, be really careful on acid, because that's the kind of thing that happens on bad trips. Acid is much more of an upper in a certain sense, so it's easy to spin out of control if you aren't careful. The trick is really just to chill out and find something to do, something familiar and pleasant, if things get bad.

Breathe, live in the present moment, and don't think too much about the past or future. Don't think about how hard you're tripping, just focus on your favorite sports team, movie, or whatever. Look at how beautiful the sky is, and think about how good it feels to breathe and relax your body (I usually like to come up while lying down, or at least sitting). Just remember that nothing in your life has actually changed, you weren't worried about anything before you tripped, and you will be fine if you just watch the cartoon/listen to the music/hug the girlfriend or whatever A serious trip can be very much like a death and rebirth - NOT necessarily in a bad way, it can feel amazingly pure and good - and in a very infantile kind of way, you might find yourself wishing for your mother or some similar substitute of comfort. That's when you reach for those beautiful, positive thoughts

But yeah, certainly 2 hits of L won't be even close to as intense as a quarter of shrooms, unless it's like the strongest dose in the modern world and you are particularly sensitive to it, and even then I think that you should be fine if you made it through that quarter of shrooms trip. In fact, since you've done shrooms so much, you will probably be surprised at how well you'll be able to handle yourself on acid. Again, unless your mind starts racing and you get really paranoid. But, don't do that, just look at how beautiful the sky is and love everything around you

 

^^^
Thanks!
And I agree with most of what you've said esp. about 'cid being more fun. Butin a way thats why shrooms fascinate me more.

Also try to remember to laugh at things. If the scary man looks like an evil anvil or the wall paper is conspiring against you LAUGH!!!! its bloody funny!

Also remember to open and closer your eyes and trip off both. Try to remember which is which so you dont completely freak out!

 

There is one more trick, witch for me is the greatest one and lead me through all without even one bad trip in my life (check my age).
That is: find the feeling of love and connectivines witch is similar to feeling of beeing hungry, but just few centimeteres higher. Just follow that feeling and you will not make mistake as that is the strongest and most beautifull feeling I ever felt in my life. After you become familiar with that feeling, you will very often feel it even sober and actually you will use the knowlidge in normal life, becaming happier person.

Another thing about dosage, depends how much mg you have in one drop of liquid LSD (usually these days 80mg). Always ask your dealer how much mg contains one drop and acording to that set your dose. I recomend 150mg for first time users, as it will be strong enough hit to really feel LSD, but not that intense. When you take LSD take the full dose (amount you think is appropriate) immidiately, don't take half now and half in a few hours because LSD is compleately different from other drugs. That will not give you more intense trip, it will just make it longer.
I personally wouldn't even bother to take something witch is less than 300mg, but believe me I head to learn to use it at much smaller doses.
Also, personally I enjoy the best LSD(300mg) and shrooms(1/4) taken together with a good joint. If you have MDNA, that would be the final touch for a happy weekend!
Stay happy and positive all the time and DON'T FORGET TO REMEMBER to send love all around to everything surrounding you!

Better behavior around the world!!!!!

 

300mg??????????
you know how much acid that is?
duddeeee thats enough to probably trip everyone in africa.
Im not sure ifff there is a lethal dose of LSD but im sure 300mg would either make you brain dead or jesus.

but I know what you meant
you probably mean ug's
300ug's is probably a good 3-4 hits of acid I'd say :/
most my blots are probably between 80-100ug's but I think those are considered good hits.

"For the 320 mg of LSD injected intravenously under the mistaken idea it was speed (this killed the user and appears to be the only instance of death by LSD overdose), the reference is: Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association 75: 172-173.

For the dinner party where a bindle of pure crystalline LSD was confused with another one of cocaine and this case of mistaken identity resulted in two fat lines being chopped out and snorted by the 8 people attending: Klock et al. (1975) Clinical Toxicology Volume #8 Issue #2." -erowid

lmao god some people are dumb.
but damn would they be rich if they had only known better.

 

Thanks for correcting me! That is exactly what I thought!

 

I think itis a simple case of mistaking mg for ug.

I mean it is micro gram and hence seems like it should be mg. heh heh.