New Brain versus Old brain.

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  1. buffoonman

    buffoonman Senior Member

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    Is there any amateur psychologists out there who can tell me how to silence my old brain.
     
  2. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    uh explain more?
     
  3. buffoonman

    buffoonman Senior Member

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    Each of us has effectively two parts to our brain, the old brain or neo cortex works on an instinctive level and tells us when we need to eat or tells us we fancy someone in general it just wants to have fun regardless of the cost. The new brain is the rational thinking part of us. There is constantly a battle going on between the two.
     
  4. KyndVeggie4Peace

    KyndVeggie4Peace -[ in.bloom ]-

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    I'm a psych major... :D
     
  5. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    yeah yeah, I got all that, I just never heard of it refferred to as "old brain" and "new brain"

    rather retarded way of wording it if you ask me, you've always had both parts, and even your instict is based off of new information at times, through your subconcious

    you just need to reason through it, try not to act impulsive "talk yourself out of doing stupid things"
    I find, for myself, this is best achieved by putting on a new perspective
    i.e.: want to punch someone for pissing me off, know they will kick mt ass
    tell myself "everyone makes mistakes"

    just learn how to manipulate yourself
     
  6. Grapefruity

    Grapefruity Sunny Side Up

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    Damn this thing i would perceive it in my though processes and everybody would say im crazy...

    on a good dose of psychedelics like lsd, you can just see these two battling...

    I think the old brain is prominent in my mind...its like elaborations and elaborations then sometimes the rational goes *what the fuck you talkjin bout*
     
  7. buffoonman

    buffoonman Senior Member

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    Hellopeople are you sure your 14. You sound a bit to smart.
     
  8. zeppelin kid

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    The Id, ego and superego.
     
  9. Duck

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    wow
    that was so unrelated, that it is amazing
     
  10. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    oh oh I'm good at this

    'fucked in the head'
     
  11. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    Id, Ego and Superego are definately related, they're a big part of the freudian theories of the human brain. The Id is the instinctual part, the Superego is like your morals and critical thinking and the Ego is what mediates between the two.

    The subject of psychology is not set in stone, nobody truly knows how exactly the brain works, so let's not just assume that freud was entirely incorrect.

    Go see a professional psychologist if you want real help, buffoonman.
     
  12. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    eh, I guess you are semi-correct

    but the Id is not just instinct by any means, unless maybe if you view it from a purely Freudian perspective, however I don't think he ever used that term to describe it either

    once again, I guess the core elements are indeed similar, I do stand corrected on that, but when it is brought into the ideas of the new brain vs the old brain and superego vs id
    there is much variation on the depth that is added
     
  13. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    well, to be interested in psychology and not respect him would be ridiculous, even if he was highly fucked and used too much assumption based on introspection, he was a pioneer
     
  14. Duck

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    mmhm
     
  15. zeppelin kid

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    Yeah I don't know what you people are talking about but those are freudian terms and are very much related and if not exactly what this thread is about.
     
  16. Duck

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    yeah, that was already covered
     
  17. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    Many psychologists have followed in Freud's footsteps and developed their own theories. I don't doubt that the new/old brain theory has expanded very much on .. whatever it entails. Don't think I'm sucking Freud's cock or something, I was only pointing out similarities.

    I'd like to point out that Carl Jung, another famous psychologist, made several of his own contributions involving his interpretation of the Ego. Of course, this is the guy who formulated a theory about how the entire history of the human animal is encoded into our cellular information (and we can access the information with proper procedures). It just goes to show that psychology is still up in the air as far as knowing exactly how the mind works. Psychologists are constantly making up dumb shit so they can publish a book and make their millions. I've just never heard of this theory that we're talking about, and I doubt any psychiatrists are going to embellish upon it for the OP. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Freud did say this: (in general) "the Id is the seat of our impulses, urges and desires". "libido", or the collective energy of life's instincts and will to survive, drives the Id, wich is referred to as "primal". There you have it. Instincts, in a nut shell. I never said it was *only instincts, but you must admit that they're probably the biggest part. You've got it horribly wrong, though. A freudian perspective on the Id would have MUCH more to it than what I have described. Freud believed (among other things) that the Id contains nasty thoughts not fit for us to even hear, although that is totally unrelated--I'm not going to write you an essay just to cover all the fine details, man.

    The core elements of this thing you're talking about and the freudian theories are strikingly similar, although the diagram you posted does not look related (?) so I decided not to study it. I also do not like the name of the theory, although I can imagine why they choose it.


    I still advise the OP to seek professional help. Nobody has even begun to adress the problem yet, you can see where this thread is going. Ha!

    Stoned ramblings alert.
     
  18. Duck

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    what interests me most about it is the relativity of it all
    to you Hitler was crazy, but to his many followers, he was not, and you are ignorant
    there are people out there who would think you and me are crazy

    it's really marvelous, and firghtening, that we our all limited to our own perception, ya know?
     
  19. buffoonman

    buffoonman Senior Member

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    Does Stephen Hawkins know his stuff or is he overrated?4555555555555555555555534';[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[7 The cat just did that
     
  20. Duck

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    I would say he knows alot of stuff, but is overrated
     
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