new fentynal patch

well, someone i know gets these..

anyways they picked them up today, and they were different then before..
they are not the gel ones, and they arent the newer gel free ones..

its got a piece of foil on it.. or some metal looking material... anyone ever see these? its teh same size as older ones

 

Sandoz brand is what I am guessing. They have gel like the Duragesic, and most people enjoy them just as much as them.

 

you think they are safe to chew? kinda feelin weird about the metal material

 

Can you take that metal piece off and scrape the gel onto something that you CAN chew? As far as I know, if they are the Sandoz that is, they are perfectly fine to chew. Same as the old Duragesic's.

 

well, they are made by TEVA USA..

that metal material part doesnt come off easy..

but my friend popped one.. the metal material came off in his mouth.. nothing bad so maybe its not a metal, kinda disitegrated in his mouth.. these patches are chewy, and strechy, like rubbery bubble gum

says its working, and it doesnt taste the same, tastes alot better then older fentynal

 

UGH Teva? Teva is the horrible company that started making the shitty Oxy's that gelled up. Hopefully they aren't fucking up the patches now too. There isn't too much information about them on the internet, it seems like they just got approved for distribution. If they have the gel, I would assume it's the same as the Duragesic, but assuming is not always the best option, haha.

Let us know how it goes, and if you can, get a couple pictures of these on here for us.

 

well its not the gel, package says Generic for DURAGESIC.. and yea i didnt find anything about these on the net either

anyways, we got the 'foil' looking material off.. it just took some careful peeling.. doesnt seem to be metal.. now that we have separated those materials, im chewing it now, tastes like the non-gel patches, its strechy and gummy.. i can strech this half a patch almost like 2 feet lol

yea man ill get some pics up tomorrow, im not at my house/PC and dont have a decent cam.. but to give you a visual on it.. they look like the non-gel patches, same size and shape.. different color, and that foil is on it..

i guess its nice tho.. the person i know who gets these has trouble seeing.. and she always complained about the older ones, how she could never see them because they were almost perfectly clear.. she can see these ones great, so she likes them better..

 

^So is there actually gel in them? Your post makes it sound like there isn't at first, but then at the end it makes it sound like it does have gel. I am confused, lol.

 

^If there is no gel, it's most likely the same type of matrix that the Mylan company used....it was designed so it couldn't be abused. No matter how you take it...i.e. put it on skin, chew it, etc. it doesn't release the Fentanyl any faster because of the matrix delivery system they implemented into them. Mylans suck because of this, and Duragesics are amazing. Since Teva was the brand that fucked the OC's up, they probably have the same type of anti-abuse system that the Mylan ones do.

I just came across some Fentanyl lollipops, the 800mcg, I will be getting 4 tomorrow. So excited!

 

sorry i didnt mean to make it sound like it had gel..
No Gel, just a flat patch like the regular gel-less ones

but, i can chew them and get effects, so i dont think the anti-abuse system is working lol

WTF 800mcg!! lollipops!! awww i want some damn man be careful, i know u always are but thats alot

 

Nah it's not too much...that isn't even the strongest dose, they come in 600, 800, and 1200.

They are yummy. You know I will be careful.

I'm very experienced with Fentanyl. I actually was into Fentanyl before Oxycodone.

 

cool

yea sorry to confuse you on this subject. this is a solid gel.. just when you first have the patch, it doesnt appear to be any gel substance..

but once you get the foil off.. it is a solid type gel, you have to carefully peel it from the foil, kinda scratch it off.. it doesnt bind back together very well.. im chewing on about 50mcg piece right now, i dont like it.. feels weird in my mouth.. feels like ive been chewing on a gummy bear for 3 hours and it wont break down... lol, i like the other non gel ones.

ill get some good pics tomorrow of all its forms

 

I believe you can free the fentynal from the base with a chloroform methanol sol, Its stripped from the plastics, the plastics sink in the sol. Fen stays suspended?
plz dont quote me on it..

 

lol sup orison, but no, im not messin with chloroform unless im in a lab dangerous stuff! plus, the only plastic on this patch is the safety plastic. thats removed before you put it on your body/in your mouth. ill get some good pics tomorrow of the whole process on this specific patch..

but i would like to know how to make the lollipops.. are they prescription or do people make them?

this stuff is tasteless.. this new patch has its ups and downs i guess..

 

^Also, you say that 800mcg is a lot? You are taking a patch that is intended to last 3 days. You are taking a 50mcg piece, but remember that is supposed to be released at 50mcg per hour, if I am not mistaken?

So wouldn't that be like taking 3600mcg at once if my basic math is correct?

 

oh, um, Id take a tanker truck full of chloroform over lifetimes worth of patches.. but thats just me..

 

well, hell yea 800mcg would be alot for me..
one 100mcg patch lasts me a few days even though i chew on it..

so yea 800mcg is alot compared to what i get and actually do..

this 50mcg piece im chewing on, chewed it for like an hour.. took a break.. so on.. thats how i get down with the fentanyl.. but idk, this new patch is not working right..

i only use this stuff when im out of oxy.. but im gonna be starting methadone tomorrow so i might be quiting oxy for a few months.. just save the pills i dont use and have a nice stash for when my tolerence go's down.

but yea i dont think this fentanyl is working!! been chewing this stuff, but im not where i should be from a half a patch.. i did 80mg's of OC throughout the day, but i should be dazing from this much fentanyl.
i dont think this stuff is working when you chew it.. im not sure, i have a feeling that the metal looking material on the patch is an activator of some sort..

 

When you chew on the patch, ALL of it is released, especially if you are chewing on it for an hour...so you are taking 3600mcg all at once.

That is how it works with the gel Duragesic ones, but like I said, the ones with no gel have this matrix that was made so that it doesn't release any faster even when chewing it.

But yeah dude, if you try that with a Duragesic, you will be taking 3600mcg ALL AT ONCE. More then 4 times the amount that I am taking....

That is why people chew on them..and after an hour of chewing, all of it has absorbed...it doesn't keep working after that. You can't chew on the same piece for 3 days, none of the gel is left and all of it is absorbed after you chew on it for about an hour.

This is how it works with the Duragesic, at least.

Yeah dude, you can't chew on it for 3 days, lol. Like I said, that is the point of cutting them open and chewing on them, you get all 72 hours at ONCE. So in your case, 3600mcg.

So you are LUCKY you don't have the actual patches that would have released 3600mcg all at once, because the way you are doing it, that is how it works. On top of 80mg of OC today? Dude be careful man, and thank god that you didn't get the real gel patches. If you ever do, don't try and eat half a patch and think it lasts for 3 days as if you put it on you, it's ALL RELEASED AT ONCE.

 

i know what ur talkin about man, and i know my opiates, im careful, and i have a high tolerance.. thats why im gonna be doin methadone tomorrow, need to lower my opiate tolerance man.. when i have em, i can do 6 80mg oxy's a day, easy, without gettin sick.. thats to high of a tolerance for me.. i need to be at 1-2 80mg oxy a day, max..

we use to get the gel ones, i know what ur talkin about, i only took that fentanyl once, with a little gel from one.. and i didnt like it, tasted horrible, and made me sick as fuck lol, i didnt take alot, but my opiate tolerence wasnt that high at the time..

the ones we were just getting before this new one, i chew on.. the clear plastic looking ones..? they def release faster when you chew on them.. they still last for a while, not 72 hours of chewing though, no way.. like i said i dont chew on it all day.. i chew on it for maybe 2-4 hours in a day

i know ur gonna tell me ehhe, but i swear chewin these release faster then when they are on your body, pretty sure we are talkin about the same patch here.. its not the gel one hehe, dont worry id never chew a whole one of those

 

^Yeah, I know which ones you are talking about. I got one a while back and was pissed when I found out it wasn't a Duragesic. Turns out that is why he still had so many lying around. I researched about them, and the basic consensus was that they suck.

It was a 75mcg patch...and my gf who has hardly an opiate tolerance whatsoever didn't feel a thing after chewing half of the patch for over 5 hours. 3 hours after that, she chewed the rest, and barely got a slight buzz.

I tried one with the same effects.

Glad you can get an effect from them though...it seemed like 90% of people I talked to hated them, and 10% said they were okay, but not as good as the original gel ones. 100% of the people I talked to said they worked just as good when they stuck it on their body, and it lasted a lot longer obviously, since you can't chew on a patch for 3 days, haha.

Yeah I was referring to the gel ones...you can't like reuse those ones. But the whole purpose of eating the patch is to get ALL 72 hours at once, which is why most people hate the Mylan ones, because that obviously doesn't happen.