nothingness still blows my mind

Alright so everything is actually living and filled with the same single concioussness. We can dissolve this dimension and pop over to another. We don't actually have any free will and are just subsets of cosmic energy. The energy of the universe can condense into billions of different forms and you can watch this occur right in front of your eyes outside of time... and control it...

All that I'm completely comfortable with

The one thing that still trips me out is how, it all comes out of black nothing. I just can't comprehend that or find any metaphor of permanence to stick on that notion. I mean my existence is comprehending it... but still that thought just gives me the same exact strange feeling all over the body ever since I bumped into it

I suppose cause comprehending that notion is pulling energy right out of the black nothing and by the very nature of it, such energy is a 'mystery' and always will be, thus it feels strange... But still, in all my philosophic meanderings and psychedelic musings I never expected the thing to trip me out the most is how it all just comes out of nothing.

Whenever a friend or someone is going on about something they think is trippy, or profound or way out there I'm just like. "But man... we exist... think about that one". As far as I'm concerned, no amount of conspiracy theory, tabloids, magick, spiritual thing, religious belief or whatever has reached a level of absurd weirdness comparable to the simple fact we exist.

 

yea man...thats real deep

 

that is a great concept.
one i can kinda relate to:
the other a few friends and i were outside smoking like usual and was staring at the starts. when, like a tone of bricks all of these thoughts/realizations hit me. very hard to explain.
so i said something to effect of: look at the starts, every human must do that. they are so far away and gigantic. think of everythign between here and there, between every organism that lives under them, every thing that IS, under these starts.
when i thought of things like, it led to something more crazy and made my problems very insignificant.

 

does2 thats a great way of looking at things

 

thanks man.
no matter what i believe i try to give every thing a second thought and/or chance. that sure helps me with angles on life.

 

about looking at the starts...

One time when I was flying on mdma around downtown. I walked up to this random group of people, probably like mid 30's and said hello, whats your name, and went around and each of them told me there name. Looking at me like wtf is going on, is this guy trying to sell us something. Then I introduce myself, "Im a big expanding ball of energy". To which one guy laughs and says "oh ya, your the big bang". To which I reply, "no Im ryan, the big bang is just the metaphor the collective scientific concioussness put to it"... then I said bye and continued to fly down the street

 

sounts great, i bet the grin on your face was this big!
thanks for pointing out my starling mispelling!

 

Well, we couldnt know that we exist unless we had already been dead before, right? But what makes that the lacking of any thing? I mean perhaps this nothing you feel all matter, energy, light, vibration etc. emanate forth from and die back into, is rather not nothing but in fact just an intermediate illusion contained within the very time/space method of being aware put in place as a sort of, well, distance, or a stage?
You know, like within the field of atomic nature we have this magnetism, but perhaps the reason we dont all colide is because at heart there is a negation of energy holding the balance? In which case it would still be part of the illusion and therefor not any kind of source.
Like we have attraction to the heart (the light) where truth is contained, within. And then we have repulsion towards external objects (the dark) where illusion is perceived as reality. I dont know I think your going into a Sartre style notion of comprehending reality with spirituality mixed together with this post, where being is positive yet exists in a constant state of negation. But just remember that negation's sole purpose is to arrive at positivity, and if there is no more need to utilize the lower mind to discriminate, there is another frame set.
Namaste

 

haha its funny when ur trippin balls and u catch a glimpse at ur hand or something and its like damnnn, what am i?

 

it is gotten me for years now. even before i started tripping and getting into this whole what is life idea. the simple fact that we exist at all is probably the biggest question in the universe. how did all of this, come from nothing, how does nothing create, and if i didn't create, how has it always been? in my theory the universe should be nothing, not even blackness, just like looking through a clear window with nothing on the other side, everything is just clear with no end to it. but no, everything exists, there is a creator, but who created the creator? it is something i hope to find out one day, but is it possible that we ever will?

 

man i thought i was like crazy until i read this and saw so many people contemplating the same questions i ask myself

 

Inthydreams, no I dont think that is possible, because it is using the lower to mid levels of the mind in order to comprehend something that has no real question and no real answer. Rather, in fact, there is a state of being that identifies itself with creation and existance and God, and with Love. When you ask the question "Who created God?" you may as well ask "Who created me?" You'll eventually come to the same answer, it's always circular and quite the elobarate mobius strip. The fact is that we do exist, though in whatever kind of reality this is does not solidify our awareness of that fact, it only reflects it. To look within yourself and identify with God as One, you will see that nothingness and being are both the same thing, they exist simultaneously and within and without each other. Instead of asking this kind of question, expecting and universal Truth as an answer, look within, or in other words, go backwards. It's in there for you to see for yourself and only for yourself. Because you are all of us and we are all of you. The mind can never be satisfied because it identifies itself with external stimuli. The Soul, however, is your answer for truth, so make the phone call to God and disconnect your senses and thoughts so that you dont get a busy signal when you dial
Namaste

 

what i dont understand is the need for alter egos.

isnt one identity enough for one person?

 

More than enough, ifn ya ask me

 

i'm at a loss for words...
but that cannot go unacknowledged.^
the clarity and directness in which you explained that coupled with answer itself is just the response that was needed here!
this is why i still come to the forums

 

Why, thank you does2!
I had a 2 hour ajna chakra mediation group session last night, it must have boosted my love into high gear :tongue:
God bless!

 

same to you man. you response really ignited a great convo between my mother and i! thanks

 

one time on a very low dose lsd trip a voice just said to me, what if god is not just a man in the clouds, what of the universe is one, there a billions of dimensions, god is a pure essence of light and love flowing through all of it, and everything is on top of and effecting itself. a week later i found out about the astral worlds. a week later my life changed. when i am cut off from my ego like in a trip, it is normal to me that everything has always been, but we are creating what has always been, do our ideas in the future somehow create what is in the past, like a giant loop of existence. i dont know what im getting at, im just amazed at life. peace, love, namaste.

 

Gotta love Love!
God bless family

 

have you all heard about this one physicist named nassim haramein

As he says, they've found that the vacuum of space is the most dense thing in existence. That like a 1cm x 1cm x 1cm cube of the vacuum holds more density at a sub-quantum level than that of the entire manifested milkyway. The black vaccum holds infinite density and energy, and then reality, lit reality, radiates out from the vaccum. And this infinitely dense vacuum is actually the same density from edge of the universe to the edge of the universe and has a geometric formation of interlacing tetrahedrons that form a grid like structure. And reality, the illusion of say you moving your arm, isn't actually your clump of atoms moving through empty space. But at a lower level, it's one grid unit of this vacuum constructing up your quarks atoms and flesh, then as your hand moves on, that grid unit of the vacuum unconstructs all the quarks atoms flesh and then reconstructs it out of the next tetrahedral slot in the vacuum grid and so on and so on. As in, we never actually move, our movement from the point of view of the vacuum and quantum level is actually exactly akin to the pixels of a television screen, only in 3D holographic space. At the bottom of matter it's a fixed in place geometric structure of cells that project ourselves out of it and create the illusion of movement. And that, we aren't actually in emptiness, nothing, in the black void, but rather, were in infinite density and solidity, it's just we've been in it since existence began so we don't notice that we, our bodies, are actually less dense electric, non-physical, projections from an infinitely denser black vacuum. That it's almost like we've learned to live inside an incredibly dense piece of metal by using the electrons on the inside of that metal to project ourselves into the illusion of existence, movement and interaction.

This is essentially the same thing as Nikola Tesla's 'luminiferous aether', but this nassim seems to of finished up some math and got some proofs with it and is speculating all sort of new types of technology that might come out of the ability to harness the structure of the vacuum directly to project things out of it.

Still even with that... comprehending the black nothing is still an odd feeling I find.