Obama and Infanticide

Obama is so stridently pro-abortion that he actively opposed legislation in the Illinois Senate that would have provided legal protection to babies who survive abortion attempts. Virtually identical legislation was passed overwhelmingly by the US Congress, and it wasn't even opposed by NARAL. Obama repeatedly insisted that he would have supported the Illinois legislation if it had included so-called "neutrality" language affirming Roe v. Wade, as provided in the federal law. However, it turns out that the Illinois legislation had this same provision. Obama actually served on the committee that inserted this language, yet he still opposed the legislation and gave blatantly false reasons for doing so:

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/WhitePaperAugust282008.html

See also this powerful testimony from abortion survivor, Gianna Jessen:

http://www.bornalivetruth.org

 

This world is reaching optimum novelty.

Babies being aborted by black presidents?

who would have thought...

TOO MANY HUMANS

 

Yes. His secret agenda is to take office and start desecrating wombs nationwide. Probably the reason he hates unborn babies is because they are American babies, and, as we all know, he hates America. After all, he is a closet Muslim, a domestic terrorist, an angry black man, a socialist, an elitist, a phony celebrity, and a liberal wuss. The reason he reads, thinks, smiles, and speaks in complete sentences is to fool us into believing he loves unborn children so that he can win the presidency and wage war on the fetus.

Moreover (and this is not commonly known), Obama has been planning this genocide since he was in kindergarten. At age 5, he penned a very disturbing essay about it in crayon ... cheap, toxic, un-American crayon manufactured by Al Quaida to raise money in order to carry out sinister deeds designed to inconvenience innocent Americans and wreck their vacation plans.


Or maybe he just hates fetuses because they are cute. I bet he hates puppies, too.

 

Welcome to reality. Politicians lie. Say it with me:

Politicians lie.

You're welcome.

 

Too bad some of your mothers didn't abort you.

 

Be thou silent and tremble before the all knowing mouthpiece of God! Behold HuckFinn speaketh!

I can tell you from experience that you are wasting you time on HucksterFinn. His mind is made up so don't try to confuse him with any facts or logical debate.

 

i think having the option as a possiblity is a good thing. if people who are againt abortions have a baby, then they can keep it alive because that is there beliefe. having the option doesnt force a women into a corner. it allows for a discussion

 

In our country the right to an abortion is tied to privacy. I wish it were stronger, but that's what we have.

Basically, you are protected from illegal search and seizure, especially in the doctor's office. Especially inside your body. The government has no right to ascertain pregnancy, no right to collect evidence regarding how a pregnancy ends, no right to interrupt you at the doctor's office. The government has no right to seize any material that is removed from you body during surgery.

That is protection from the government, which is not the same as a right to have an abortion. We can have abortions because we have a right to privacy. Curtailing abortion rights is necessarily a reduction in privacy rights.

I am not willing to reduce privacy rights in this day and age.

 

Wait a second, they are born alive... you just let them die?

That sounds horrible.

 

who said the babes are born alive and then let them die after?

 

Yes!!! I think you offer the best pro-choice argument I have ever read.

As a very good friend once put it, "Why is it any of your business?"

Peace and Love

 

I believe one day we will become a civilization where there is no intolerance, ignorance, greed, poverty, injustice, violence or war . . . you know, the things that force so many people to believe abortion is a far lesser evil. Until then, it is simply hypocritical to benefit from our civilization and call oneself "Pro-Life."

Peace and Love

 

And until then, we need the government to protect women at the most vulnerable time in a woman's life.

A womb is not a political battleground.

And next time these whack jobs try to convince you a fetus has a right to life, make sure they agree that the poor, hungry, handicapped, and infirm have a right to life. If the sanctity of life begins at conception, it does not end at birth.

 

So, let me understand this properly. According to right-wing, Republican, Fundamentalist idealism, Government can dictate its way into our most private, intimate lives, but our money and weapons are somehow sacred. The things they cannot control are fair targets for legislation, but the things they can control are sacrificed to the whims of "God-given" irresponsibility.

It sounds like an unrealistic maladjustment of priorities.

Any entity (whether it is an individual, an organization, a civilization, a species) that refuses to adjust to reality cannot survive. Or, to put it more positively, only those beings that successfully relate to reality, and adjust to reality, can continue to take part in reality. It is the order of all things, regardless of how you understand reality in terms of religion, science, politics, or culture.

Now, any attempt to destroy or misrepresent reality is, by definition, a maladjustment. It cannot survive. I believe this is proving itself to be true in todays politics, economics, religion and culture.

Who knows?

Peace and Love

 

There is a bright side, you know.

Christians who really take the words of christ to heart are now shifting attention to good environmental stewardship, caring for the poor and disadvantaged, and feeding the hungry.

More and more, there voices are becoming strong.

 

Yep people like HucksterFinn are all pro life except for babies tht have reached draft age and brownskinned people that wear robes.

 

I think instead of calling it pro-choice vs anti-abortion, we should call it 'pro-choice' vs 'force a woman to gestate for 9 months and give birth if she becomes pregnant regardless of her health of how she became pregnant.'

There was a time when even born-again evangelicals were more concerned with helping the poor than preventing gays from marrying and forcing woman to gestate. Sometimes it appears that that's all some people care about....regardless of anything else a candidate stands for. If Satan were real, and ran for office as an anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, NRA member he'd probably get plenty of votes.....throw in anti-tax, and he could be the next president.

 

You hit the nail on the head with that one. What do ya think is going on right now? False Christianity is trying to take over the country. These fundies make a big deal out of the above issues and crow about the Ten Commandments but they blatantly ignore the Fourth Commandment