Occupy San Diego

Discussion in 'Occupy Movement' started by Aerianne, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Aerianne

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    San Diego Police Take Over Occupy San Diego – at least 44 Arrested

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    http://obrag.org/?p=48024
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Keep arresting those Vets and see what happens!

    About San Diego...
    Having lived in the SD area and visiting there on and off for decades, I can tell you a few things...

    San Diego is one of the most conservative counties in California. They have a HUGE military presence there, with one of the biggest naval bases in the country. In fact, you could say that San Diego is the western hub of the US government because of all the government agencies there.

    San Diego borders Mexico, so the Border Patrol, Immigration, Customs, ATF, DEA, etc. are all there with huge numbers of personnel. So the city of San Diego is beholden to all the Feds in their midst.

    San Diego has elected conservative politicians who have been working hand in hand with the Feds to shutdown medical cannabis dispensaries. And now the SD based US Attorney has declared war on all medical cannabis dispensaries, no matter how in compliance they are with state law.

    So expect San Diego to be a flash point. And remember that it's really the FEDERAL GOV'T telling the city what to do, more so than any other city, except perhaps D.C.

    San Diego's reputation is one of the worst for allowing people their rights to protest and for police actions that harm innocent civilians. It's far worse than Oakland!
     
  3. zombiewolf

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    Agreed. Having lived there for a bit myself back in the mid 80's, I've been quite worried for occupy SD...:(

    Got this today...
    http://obrag.org/?p=48464&cpage=1

    ZW
     
  4. Aerianne

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    Occupy Activists Charged With Felonies for Interrupting Mayor Sanders’ State of City Address

    The most disturbing thing during Mayor Sanders’ “State of the City” address that he delivered last Wednesday night (Jan. 11th), was not the swam song of a lame duck politician, but that four Occupy San Diego activists who interrupted his speech were all charged with felonies.

    Usually, disturbing a public assembly, like a City Council meeting, is a simple misdemeanor. But in a spiteful frenzy of vengeance, police have charged Alberto Ordonez, Christopher McKay, Tahra Ludwig – who is an OB Ragster, and Michael Garcia with felony conspiracy to commit crimes. The crime here, of course, was that these activists stood up during Sanders’ speech and called out the human megaphone “Mic check! Mic check!”

    In a twist of the law, disturbing an official meeting or speech is a misdemeanor. But if one conspires to commit a misdemeanor with others, that’s a felony.

    Article: http://obrag.org/?p=52601&cpage=1
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

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    I was going to look for this and post it up because I didn't see it here yet..... This is bad.

    Since when is free speech a felony? Oh yeah! Since we live in a fascist police state......

    You know if these charges stick these people will never be able to vote.
     
  6. Psychedelic_Buddha

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    Free speech became a felony when the Government started to become corrupt. it is a sad day that American's can no longer speak or protest. Our country was founded on the ability of the people to do so. But we cannot just blame the Government. If anyone is to blame you should look no further then a mirror. It is We the American people fault. We allowed them to take our liberties and freedoms without a fight. We allowed them because, most people are to busy on their facebook or twitter and watching sports. That they care not what goes on in the world. they watch Fox,CNN,CBS, and other mainstream media propaganda. We need to stop being so unaware and start fighting for our freedoms. Occupy wall street and Occupy the world is a good start. We need a stronger movement and a larger force to get our voices heard.
     
  7. Aerianne

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    Occupiers from San Diego who were on their way to Washington DC to “Occupy Congress” were rudely thrown off the Greyhound bus by bus driver. This was in Amarillo, Texas in the middle of the night, Saturday, Jan 14th.

    Read more:http://obrag.org/?p=52661&cpage=1
     
  8. raincoast

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    This is fascism at its worst... Americas not a land of the free. Most people think they know their rights, but when you try to EXERCISE your rights, you get people arresting you.
     
  9. zombiewolf

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    I would sue the dogshit out of greyhound and the driver personally!
     
  10. Brynn

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    What would Rosa Parks do?
     
  11. Aerianne

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    False Reports Surface That Colorado Shooter Was Part Of Occupy; Truth Exposed

    "False reports are surfacing that James Holmes, the young man who killed 12 people at the midnight showing of the new batman movie “The Dark Knight Rises” last night in Aurora, CO, was part of the Occupy San Diego Black Block movement. OSD members have immediately spoken out on Facebook and Twitter about the falseness of such claims – from OSD even having a Black Block group, to ever seeing John Holmes at their camp or any of their meetings. Upon further investigation it has become clear that those claiming James Holmes is part of the Occupy movement do not have any proof or facts to back this up and are simply working on false assumptions.

    Further de-confirming the claim that Holmes was part of the Occupy Black Block movement in San Diego, an unnamed member of OSD has said today there is “no organized Black Block contingent known to OSD.” Furthermore this person reminds us that “Black Block is a tactic, not a group.”

    View slideshow: Colorado shooter falsely linked to Occupy

    erial view of Occupy San Diego Day One March in the Civic Center Plaza
    Photo credit: David Hatfield http://davidhatfieldphotography.com/

    Video: Conversation with Detective Bill Warren July 20 about CO shooter and Occupy movement

    You can read more about Black Block at Wikipedia, where you will read that it was developed in the 1980’s and “mainly consists of defensive tactics like misleading the authorities, assisting in the escape of people arrested by the police ("un-arrests' or "de-arrests"), administering first aid to persons affected by tear gas, rubber bullets and other riot control measures in areas where protesters are barred from entering, building barricades, resisting the police, and practicing jail solidarity.”

    The false reports began with two blogs. First, the blog of a private detective in Florida Bill Warner, who is claiming that James Holmes is part of the Occupy Black Block movement. Detective Bill Warren is "a member of the FBI Partner InfraGard and has worked as a Confidential Informant (CI) for Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the U.S. Secret Service on smuggled stolen cars scam and money laundering cases," according to his blog.

    In a conversation with Warner today, Warner explained that Holmes was “obviously influenced by something…and possibly motivated by the Occupy movement.” He went on to explain how in the new batman movie the main villain is portrayed as an occupy…black block guy with a mask and the black block uniform.” When asked a second time if he had any facts or proof to back this up, he responded by pointing out the fact that when the mother found out about the killings she said “You’ve got the right guy.”

    So basically Detective Warren has no proof or actual facts that the shooter Holmes was a part of an Occupy Black Block movement, as in instead assuming that is why Holmes committed this heinous crime based upon the plot of the movie and a quote from his mother that has nothing to do with Occupy at all. People like Detective Warren like to have fun calling those who use Black Block tactics during protesting "Black Block Terrorists" while there is nothing terrorist-like in protecting peaceful protestors from possible abuse or violence from authorities or law enforcement. You can hear the audio of the conversation with Warren on YouTube, or by clicking on the video at the top of the article to the right.

    As things spread on the Internet like they do, Doo Doo Economics was the next blog to re-post the false claims, even adding to the allegations by specifically targeting Holmes as a member of a Black Block group from Occupy San Diego.

    Detective Warren himself said today that Holmes “left San Diego in 2010” and has “been in the Colorado area for the last year” making it impossible for him to have been involved in Occupy San Diego. Local and national news sites have been reporting Holmes was "pursuing a PhD in neuroscience at the University of Colorado, Denver," with the Washington Post and others reporting later in the afternoon that Holmes “was in the process of withdrawing from his academic program." What exactly Holmes was doing in Colorado on his free time, and whether or not he was involved in some organized Black Block movement in Colorado or elsewhere has simply not been confirmed to date.

    Already spreading like a wild fire on the Internet, we are now seeing reports of these false claims popping up by other Examiner writers, by local Florida news outlets, and by other bloggers.

    That last blog goes so far as to say that Occupy Wall St. themselves are taking blame for the shooting, yet when you click on the link provided for proof you get a broken link. This is the true current page of Occupy Wall St. right now.

    The whole thing seems to be business as usual as Truth Out has coincidentally released a report today that Occupy San Francisco activists were falsely accused of being involved in an officer shooting of a suspect, simply because the shooting happened blocks from the Occupy SF encampment. Similar reports have come out recently about a murder in Berkeley and a false connection to Occupy Berkeley, and false reports connecting DNA from a 2004 murder to recent DNA found on a metal chain collected after an Occupy protest in New York.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/fal...rado-shooter-was-part-of-occupy-truth-exposed
     
  12. usedtobehoney

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    Wow...and bringing up these lies will influence people no matter the evidence to the contrary.
     
  13. Aerianne

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    It seems this tragedy has so many tentacles beyond the loss of these innocent lives. If it was set up by someone other than the gunman, then they had many more targets in the public than just those in that theater.
     
  14. Piney

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    The story of the New York City murder victim being linked via DNA evidence to that article of confiscated chain was debunked on the very next news cycle.

    It was ascribed to incompetence in the NYC police testing lab.

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  15. IamImaginary

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    They will sit and try to point the blame on anything they can. Just like columbine is music's fault, this "Batman Shooting" has to be the fault of some grander organization. ​

    Yes, in ways it was from a grander organization, not the one they are pointing fingers at, but the one they call society; A kid drops out of college on his way to becoming a "successful" civilian. The dreams he has/had are fading, as they do with a lot. Along the way he decided to himself that it is all bullshit. Why? because "obviously" someone(something) filled his head with falsities of what is right and wrong, and what life/reality really is.(OSD, the target in this case.)​

    What some people seem to fail to realize is that one single mind has the power to say "fuck the world" and take matters into it's own hands. Yet, they need to look for some "grander" reason as to why he did it. Some sort of label to place upon this person, so they can blame something more ideal and take down a more abstract, yet more convenient target. Why put the blame on one when you can use the blame against others? Because tragedies help the government gain control.​

    I personally foresee a lot more of this happening in the future; Kids being filled with falsities of their parent's morality. As maturity develops, a child will gain their own opinions and conjure their own moralities. The recoil of which is a child, reaching adulthood, trying to take their ingrained morals and fit them in with their newly discovered corruption in society/their newly discovered ideas that life is less, or more, than what civilization, religion, government, family, etc. bestow(ed) it upon them to be.​

    One person in the world assumes that society doesn't offer the life that they want to live and it made them upset, as it would anyone. The problem is that he assumed his moralistic view as counterfeit, when he gained his independence. The government/media teaches us that if you don't agree with a system then you go to war with it. This kid figured he was "going to war" with what he deemed as the "society" he didn't agree with.​

    A hypocritical sociopath taking his own matters into his own hands, end of story.​

    So instead of blaming the Occupy movements because it will be a good excuse to shut them down. Let us blame instead, a single person corrupted by his own mind's dissident methods, or even the system that will so willingly allow corruption to take a hold.​
     
  16. jo_k_er_man

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  17. jo_k_er_man

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    Don't worry.. He has plenty to Occupy.. His jail cell.. The court room.. and once he's put into GP.. His butt hole will probably be occupied as well
     
  18. scratcho

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    The cops protect the status quo. The legislators fascillitate the attacks on the Occupy movement (or any other movement/situation that threatens the movement of money upward to the monied class)and give the cops attacks legitimacy by passing or enacting laws that criminalize free speech and the right to protest the aformentioned status quo. Whatever is handy at the moment to squelch citizens concerns thru peacefull action will be done and loved by the right wingers. Linking that evil bastard to a left wing cause or an occupy movement would be par for the course in right wing circles. Some will now believe it,I'm sure. I thought and still hope the Occupy movement was/is the beginning of the end for the greed heads. What's next??
     
  19. Aerianne

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    I'm not sure, Scratcho. I've been busy in other directions. I can have a look and report back.

    Anybody else who wants to have a look can use the links in the stickies at the top of the Occupy Section.

    Make a post with updates if you find something interesting coming up.
     
  20. spoiledcitygirl

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    I don't know how you'd get into a theater with even a toy gun...but, beyond that, there's no way he carried a bag in there without having it searched.You might tote a gun into a theater but you will not bring your own cokecola and M&Ms...they are serious about that. It is puzzling.
     
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