So how many, or are any, of you are parents? If you are a parent, how was taking LSD different after having a child as compared to before having a child? And if your not a parent, but think you would like to be someday, what do you think will be different about it? Because after my son was born, obviously in the intial stages of getting used to my new role in life I had no desire to take LSD. Being there and helping (even though my 'help' was more like lifting one of her legs) my sons mom give birth was like a million LSD trips combined, so my mind was already blown enough as it was. I dont know if there is anything that can prepare a person to experience child birth, it seems like no one is ready to handle it, it just happens and you fall into place. Instinct more or less controls your actions during and afterwards. But after about a year and a half, I started gettig the urge to trip again, and have since dosed and eaten magic mushrooms more times than I can count. But I feel so different when I trip now compared to how i felt before. Obviously the way I am as a human being in general is different, as my main reason to live is to ensure that my child is taken care of. This of course effects everything about a person, down to how one holds oneself and even how one talks. But I feel that so much more has been revealed to me, and I dont think it's simply because of age or LSD experience growing further from the start. I think it's because I am a dad to someone now. The major difference and something completley new to me was that I became exposed to love, both divine and personal. I felt a love pervading existance, and I saw nature bubbling and over growing out of this love. Is this because I need to be able to share that love with a baby? It sure feels like it. I dont know what kind of a human being I would be today without being a dad, but it doesnt matter because everything in life happens how it happens, there is no way to change it. It is how it is and I thank God for blessing me with a healthy baby everyday. But I definitley feel very different, closer to something, that I dont know what it is, but it wasnt there before.
I dont have a child and I've never done LSD, so I dont really have much to say about this. Maybe one day I will, but I dont think I can imagine how this is going to change me. I just wanted to say that it was really beautiful to read this :hug:
You are right Relayer, everything changes when you become parent, not just tripping, everything. In on of the posts I touched a bit this subject, but let me do it again as this thread in named perfectly for that. You see, never before having a child you loved somebody so unconditionaly, so pure. The love that you were giving before child somehow was always asking for love back, and if you don't get it, your love to that person was smaller and smaller if not returned. With child, first time in your life you actually love somebody no matter how that person (child) reacts, is it angry with you, happy, sad, bad, even if he tells you the most horrible thing in the world, you will still love that child the same-simply unlimited love, pure that it can't be more pure. When you realize that, than you realize that you actually never loved before, although at that point you thought you did. By realizing that you actually didn't love anyone or anything before (you know what I mean) you suddenly find the feeling that you want to make up to the whole world because you were so blind and ignorant. That love, unconditional, brings you so close to God, and when you enter the trip with it, it enlightens you much more than anything could before, as we already agreed so many times, love is a key to everything, but that pure, unconditional love adds a lot more things to "everything". You start learning that beautiful, senzational new feeling of happines when you try every time to love as much people and things so unconditionaly as you can. It is not easy, but it is the best and the most bright of all "roads" to final destination. I think the first ones that you learn to love so unconditionaly after you child are your parents, because only than you can understand that whatever argument that you had with them before was never because they don't love you enough, it was because they love you too much. After that, it just depends on the person to move on and to accept everybody, or at least as much as you can to that unconditional see of love. That is why Christ and so many other saints were so great, not because of anything else, just because they could love anybody like their own child, only than you can say that you are TRULY ONE with God.
I find thinking about my parents is extremely powerful during an LSD trip. Thinking about my own birth and the cycle of life is just crazy... how my parents came together to form me and the point of consciousness which I identify as "me" just sort of popped into existence in this body 22 years ago thanks to them. I'm sure that having a child would be me that much more in touch with the whole cycle... how all of us are just born out of nothingness, mentally, yet our physical bodies have a very clear origin - from the bodies of our parents. I can try to imagine having a kid, but I know that in truth the most powerful imagination in the world could never prepare me for what it will feel like. I hope one day I get to experience fatherhood, and tripping post-fatherhood definitely sounds like a fantastic idea for gaining a whole new perspective on everything.
my son is 1 coming up in febuary, my trips really have just made me realise how thankful i am he came out perfectly healthy first of all. he is perfection in my eyes and i get a feeling that i created one thing in my life that was worth while with the time i got. i see myself in him, in his nose, eyes, mouth and i also see his mother and it all jumbles up into the feelings that we have as a family. i cant say ive really spent time with my son LSD as i out usually when doing it, but after a night out i ended up home at 8 in the morning just coming into the peak of a trip having dropped the acid around 2 or 3, my son was just waking up and my girl was going out. i played games with him and had no need for adult conversation. we bonded on a level that i feel only 2 children could ever achieve. really the was no possibilty of me ever having a bad trip having this beautiful human child that i had created. probably not a good thing for a father to do, but hey i got my life and spiritual journeys too as he will in life and i think this made an enternal fatherly love i have my son. he still looks as pure as he did when i was on the trip, he has a wonderful glow about him and i think he enjoyed this. i hate to say it but im not usually the type of person to get on the floor and act like a child its just something strange to me my girl does most of the small games with my son but it really bonded me to him for life and kinda switched a light on in my head.
Thank you for sharing most sadistic Your son is turning 1 you say? My son just turned 2 in October, so I was just over 19 at the time. I never started tripping until he was older than 1, and most of my trips since then have been at home since I've lost a good majority of my friends from giving in almost exclusivley to my spiritual path. Same with girls, I try and attain a renounced order of sexuality as I feel it to be my biggest negative force to my mental equillibrium, but whatever thats besides the point. Dont be afriad what people will say about what is and whats not a good thing for a father to do, you yourself just explained how beautiful the experience was man. I wouldnt say that the majority of my trips have been around my son since his birth, but quite a handful have and I see nothing wrong with it. I wouldnt reccomend it to someone who I didnt know, but I have the experience under me to know what Im doing. And I could really care less if people think I am a bad father for doing so. Especially because the majority of people who think like that, dont have kids themselves and really should just mind their own business. They dont know what its like to be a single parent and judging a person as a good or bad parent because of what they do in their free time, in my opinion, is ignorant. That being said, the trips that I have had in my sons presence, wether he was asleep and I tripped at night or he was awake and around during the day, have been about the same as the trips I've had when he was in his mothers care. Two people who have posted in this thread so far, have been present during psychedelic trips with me while my son was in my care, so I wouldnt worry too much about being judged in a negative light
Man that has to be crazy looking at a your kid trippin. My brother could try that out in the near future, his daughter just arrived not even a month ago and he's only 18.
