Personal Political Shift

It's interesting... I recently stumbled into this old thread about this political compass test
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=293215&page=4

I started of a couple years ago here:


and I just took the test as honestly as I could, just as last time, and I ended up here:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-8.38&soc=-4.72

And to be sure my compass was much much further to the right when I was a youngin'. I was under the impression that people got more conservative, not more liberal as they got older. Anyway, I think a lot has to do with that I studied philosophy in college (first couple years anyway) and I took a shine to it. Ever since I have tried to apply logic and epistemology to just about everything... that and the school was a Catholic seminary so that explains my direction towards social justice.

Has anyone else noticed shifts in their political leanings over the years? In which direction, and why?

 

i'm pretty sure you posted some bit of blind propaganda in here once and i challenged you on the logic of your assertion and you never did really explain your thinking . . .

when i was young [like 10] i was a little nazi; very commie as a teen, a bit of an anarcho-libertarian as a young adult

now more of a moderate socialist in terms of what i think would be good for the world and some strange sort of moralist/anarchist in terms of what i think is good for myself

 

You mean about how I posted a business link concerning the difference between western and eastern philosophy? I tried to get back to you on that but you weren't very helpful. Besides... 'tried' being the operative word here? Plus I remember conceding some points in that thread to someone else. I think that right there puts me ahead of about 80% of this forum.

Moralist/Anarchist? I'd be interested in an explanation for what you mean by this.

 

no rules at all, except for very strict rules i try to live by based on my sense of ethics

i'm bad with terminology, maybe i didn't need to invent anything, my debraining, you understand . . .

perhaps the logic bit was somebody else [mcleod ganga?]; i think on the philosophy thread i just wanted your own opinions re differences - was reading stoic philosophy at the time and it was all seeming so eastern to me

 

I haven't changed. As an example,when I and some friends started a hot rod club in the 50s, I immediately named us the Commoners. Maybe a silly example, but looking back, I see that inequities were obvious to me even then and of course my family has always been to the left ,except my banker dad. I'm feel about the same as I always have regarding society.

 

For many, older means more tolerant or mellowed out with age, liberal.?

I underwent a profound shift from regarding the world in terms of right and wrong to regarding the world in terms of true or false.

The former is oppressive in every sense and unreliable in it's perpetual arbitration.

The later refines and simplifies the view of the dynamism of nature.

What is wrong can in another instance be right.

What is false, is by definition, not true, therefore not real. What remains is always in agreement with you.

 

i feel the same way.


for me, i started off as somewhere between republican and libertarian, trying to accentuate "freedom". then i broadened my consciousness greatly after watching Zeitgeist Addendum; it completely changed the way i thought. i was able to view 'arbitration' in a much more objective view. i'd like to say most of my thinking now is objective, but like how i started, being right-winged, i can't tell my level of subjectiveness until future growth and retrospect.

the biggest change for me has been that i can't describe my views as being on a simple two-axis diagram anymore

 

This is a good question .

I think when I was younger , I was more to the right . However as I've aged I think I have evolved more, with spiritually and realize that things aren't so cut and dry and black and white , as i once thought they were . I think as we grow older and wiser we understand suffering and have more compassion . The world is so full of social injustice .
However, i still have some things i can lean to the right on . I can go either way , it depends on the issue at hand . I can be liberal on some things or conservative with others . I don't like to label myself to much , i think that's one of our problems today we have to label everything . Although i would say these days It's more to the left .

 

Always been a commie bastard!

 

Thats interesting. A few years ago I was almost in the exact same spot you were a few years ago on the political compass test, and I just retook the test a few days ago and I am positioned almost exactly where you are now.

I find that I am getting more anti-establisment and rebellious as I get older. Instead of conforming to the status quo with age, I find myself becoming increasingly disillusioned with it.

 

I really haven't changed. I realized when I was about 7 that the world was kinda fucked up and we could make it much better. So I guess I started being a progressive then. The biggest change over the years is that I slowly realized that most people don't feel that way and there are powerful forces opposing change and that any real change takes way longer than I thought.

 

See? We were meant to be together. Pick you up at 8?

 

I'll see you then baybay

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe9qb5yPQgA"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
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just about annoying as black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow

 

Got bored with the quiz because I can't answer "neither" for them and I don't support corporations existing at all. My results would be extremely skewed so there's no point

 

god damn it, I JUST got that shit out of my head. I was singing it an hour ago while cooking breakfast

 

It's a shift in human consciousness. The increased energy from the center of t he galaxy is causing an explosion of evolution. Evolve or die.

 

I normally dislike political compass surveys because they're loaded with rigged and propagated questions that are worded to sway the person being surveyed to think a certain way. But this one was fairly non-biased and asked decent questions. There were some questions asked where I felt indifferent and neither agreed or disagreed. So I think that those were a little bit unfair and gave semi inaccurate results because I couldn't say "neither".

Probably explains why my coordinates were (X:1 / Y: -7)

 

Yeah I didn't like the questions either I felt like someones agenda was being pushed on me.

Even though, I'm pretty centered, I found out which I already knew that I'm pretty independent in thinking and don't follow the herd of someones else's ideals.

This was my chart

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-1.12&soc=0.72

 

I went from farthest left liberal to currently just fuck it all anarchist, everything is a gray area...