Well only tried a few so far but here is what I got. Hopefully you can add so maybe people won't have to ask so many times. Jwh-018 - High takes ten minutes to kick in. Identical to marijuana during initial onset. Shorter duration and more drowsiness occurs after about 40 minutes. I feel this substance is mildly-moderately dangerous (saw someone stop breathing from it, due to sympathetic nervous system depression from cannabinoid agonist effects). When used responsibly I feel this substance is worth the money, and can help replace that good old fashioned high. 2ce - Depending on ROA takes 20 minutes - 2 hours to kick in. Visuals similar mostly to LSD, very little effects on thoughts until very high doses. Stimulant properties (can't sleep for 8-16 hours afterwards depending on dose). I feel this substance is minimally dangerous, even though it falls into a category of chemicals that can be dangerous my own personal experiences with high doses and multiple people tell me that even people who are oversensitive who innsulfulate a large amount (basically a small person doing way too much) will only suffer minor bad side effects, usually mainly nausea. Definitely worth it, and is a great substance in its own right. I would love to see what everyone else has or wants to share... maybe we could get a big jolly list going and end some of the repeat questions?
I'm glad you wrote about those two. Those are personally the two RC's I've came into contact with and used. JWH-018 - Lovely overall compound in my experience, minus a few heavy negatives which I'll list. I haven't tried any other synthetic cannibinoids but I can tell this one would probably be up there on my personal list, seeing as it was already 5x stronger than any actual weed high I've ever had, plus to add, smoking pot regularly made me skeptical, as I came to a point with marijuana where I feel as though I've felt all the highs there are to feel with marijuana, but JWH put me right back at day one all over again.. intense stuff. The first few times I got a very strong rush with a joyful laughing sensation upon exhale. The smoke doesn't necessarily taste like anything but it does have somewhat of an off-ness. Nothing chemical or heavy, wouldn't say odorless but almost (smell thins out and clears quick too, potentially concealable). The rushing sensation upon exhale is what made me keep repeating doses on my third or fourth day. Made me feel as though I was using a narcotic, in the sense that I kept wanting to feel that initial euphoria over and over again. But not a narcotic in a sense that I feel like I need to buy it and keep doing it nonstop, it just gets routine when you have a ton of it and like to maintain a high / feel a rush. Definitely something you can make the choice to stop using easily, like regular marijuana. But as for the initial high, in my experience however, it does kind of pause and then build for about 10 minutes. Though, I feel it really plateau's right after you smoke it and maybe again 15-20 minutes. Sometimes it comes in waves for me on larger doses (which has screwed me before because I waited 10-15 minutes thinking I could go heavier, and then it hits me twice as hard all at once and then comes the breathing problems and tingling fingers/toes/panic lol). I eyeballed all my doses from a gram baggy, and I smoked it so fast it's safe to say I was blowing through 80-120mg a day lol. Which obviously might of been why I had my first complications with breathing (people recommended 2-5mg for starter doses so don't be me). Whenever I'd take a questionable amount (and by questionable, I mean what seemed to be like too much), my breathing would get very restricted. In fact, the second day I was on it I had to force my breathing and try and slow my heart beat down because of the panic I was also going through.. it just didn't feel good.. Had to relax.. Definitely had this sensation of impending doom (like they call it medically).. as if I was going to die basically, lol. But that particular experience ended up turning into a very intense flashback which might be the result of other psychedelic drugs I've taken... and not to mention even while panicking and having slowed breathing I was high as fuck. What is interesting is all of the negative side effects vanished after I kept doing it day by day. After blowing through a shit load my first day, my lungs felt restricted and breathing was hard.. but after a day or two of repetitive smoking I can breath normally and just enjoy as much as I want, now I can smoke almost 5x-10x the amount that once had me panicking and not even get close to having problems. So I think it's safe to conclude that for a beginner -- they should probably have a few small sittings (2-7mg) before they go large just so they can develop a tolerance. JWH-018 == WIN! Overall, just like cannabis, STRONGER than cannabis, other than the duration and how it comes up. I'd say:: Initial Onset - 3 seconds to 60 seconds (you feel it hitting you) Build up - 1 to 30 minutes Feeling Nice and high - 30 minutes - 2 hours Drifting down - 2 - 3 hours So I'd give the total experience a typical duration of 2 to 3 and a half hours. If you abruptly discontinue use (aka running out of the drug), you are left feeling drowsy and bored for about a day. And then all is fine and dandy. 2C-E I first experimented with this compound last maybe a year ago. I do not know how much of a positive picture I could paint around this, the memories are fading (but I am getting a new batch soon), but.. yeah, I'll try and cap it off. It seems to always be a gamble between euphoria and stomach aches with me when taking it. As in, sometimes the drug just makes me react differently physically. (Perhaps what I ate before the trip? , and yeah, if I do eat before the trip, I almost ALWAYS purge.) The onset is almost always slow (2-3 hours) and if you are with friends, you might wanna emphasize this, I had quite a few people try and tell me my shit was bunk and that they weren't going to trip -- only to be blown into their most earth shattering experience within a few hours later. And these are doses in the 16-25 mg range. Visuals can take on any aspect in my opinion, I don't know how people can draw lines between trypt's and pea's. 2C-E used to have a more fish-lense effect on my eye-sight, losing total perception of three dimentional objects (things seem "drawn on" to my eye sight and 2D), literally seeing my surroundings collapse onto me and into me, vortexes of light, and I haven't even got started on what I see when I close my eyes yet, lmao. Usually when I'd shut my eyes I'd have to reopen them quick because what I was seeing was just shocking. I'm so used to seeing black when I shut my eyes yet now on a high dose of 2C-E it feels like shutting my eyes launches me into a whole new reality -- one that consists of very bizarre/random images that seem to be made up of very complex geometrical shapes that are caught in a state of constant movement and "warping". I'd almost go as far as to say if you wanna see what I seen without drugs open up windows media player and look at the visual arts that play while you listen to music. But even then I think that the computers version barely captures the heat and intensity of actually seeing this with a drug. I feel like 2C-E is what's shown me what strong unearthly connections are all about, I feel like I've literally witnessed a psychedelic black hole on it. A strong sense of being in a 4D plane this one time, like what you get with Salvia. (The world rolling up into a film strip almost, and you being on the outside). I told my friend I felt like I was being "sucked out of the universe" when I was on it I guess, lol. When I snorted 30 mg of 2C-E, I was tripping within about 30 seconds, and throwing up in another minute. Instantly launched into a ++++ and an unmistakable +++++ experience when laying down 20 minutes later. I definitely had an overtone of nausea throughout the trip that came in waves, not to mention the worst burn in my nose and a nasty chemical drip going down in my throat that lasted for a good 10 minutes (and damn does it feel good swallowing that last little chemical flem packet of shit down your throat when all you wanna do is get past that feeling lol). My mind was FUCKED too, I mean FUCKED through the ear FUCKED. I couldn't even handle that trip. After an hour or two in I had to split off from my cousin and lay down in another room. He was freaking me out and the drug wasn't helping lol. I wasn't even making good excuses too as to why I wanted to leave the room, he could just tell I was fucked up and scared lol. Was on the verge of letting things go sour. As for sleeping I've literally passed out from taking a dose of 2C-E that was active yet minimal (maybe 10-14 mg) even while tripping, lmao. But I also smoked a shit load of weed too so that may have contributed something to it. Sometimes when tripping on this I can get some tenseness in my jaws or other parts of my body. Not to mention I think the persistent use of this shit brought about the tremors I experience almost daily now. (I'm being technical, but if you asked me legit I'd say 2C-E was the cause because I never had any issues until I started dosing high on this "research" compound). Tremors in the sense that sometimes a random part of my body will feel as though it's vibrating in a very small area and then it'll just dissipate, nothing too problematic, kind of tickles sometimes. Overall another respectable compound, be careful with high nasal doses though.
2ce - i've tripped on this 16 times in 26 months. doses ranging from 12 - 20 mg orally. i tried snorting it unsuccessfully twice (~5-7 mg). it just burned. i have a deviated septum and i was drunk. overall i like it, but it does come with its negatives. i'll begin with those. tastes horrible. that's the first thing you notice. i like to drink mine in a little bit of juice to mask the taste. i get a bit of nausea during the comeup, but i find that if i lay still for about an hour after dosing, that helps. i also get somewhat unpleasant temperature shifts - usually it makes me cold. the worse side effects for me are after the trip. on the comedown and/or the next day i get a headache in the back of my head. that worries me a bit. and my stomach/gut/intestines/bowels? don't feel quite normal for the next day or so. it seems to make me pee a lot, and make water taste bad. finally, it can give me a little muscle tension in my neck. now the good stuff. the actual trip is great. makes my skin feel awesome. touching running water feels really good, showers are nice. the visuals are pretty great, ESPCECIALLY the CEVs. i get them just as swoosh describes. it also makes music sound absolutely AMAZING, and produces synthesasia(sp?) which makes for quite the effect. it feels as if each song was written just for me. they seem to go on forever, but not last long enough. and if i lay in the dark with music, my CEVs correlate with the song, and seems to tell a story about the orgin of humanity or something equally profound. therefore, my favorite thing to do on 2ce is to lay and listen to music, watch the CEVs. #2 - go on a walk. walks in the winter are awesome and i feel like 2ce goes great with winter (minus the temp fluctuation). a bike ride is fun. nature is awesome. i would like this just as much as acid, if it was known to be as safe, and maybe wasn't as hard on my body as it sometimes is. also, maybe i need to pay more attention to fasting before i dose, use ginger to prevent nausea, etc 2cb - i won't say much about this. i've only tried it twice - 20 and 30 mg. it was pretty mellow compared to 2ce and for that reason i didn't like it as much. i like an intense trip. the 20 mg didn't ever feel fully developed into a trip. and i (stupidly?) took the 30 mg the day after an acid trip, so cross tolerance could have been an issue. it come with similar nausea/headache as 2ce, and the trip was fun, just mild. i have some 2cp to try, but it might be awhile. and i will also have something to say about 4acodmt in the not too distant future
