Philosophers

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Bilby, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    What makes someone a philosopher? It would seem to me that some public figures such as the late Anita Roddick , Frank Zappa or Mark Twain could be correctly labelled as philosophical to some degree even if they were labelled as something else. Novelists are by default observers of life.
     
  2. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    I'm not being philosophical, but what does "seeming to you" mean for determining one's vocation for Life? Now Life instead cannot be seemed. It refers to the "making oneself in spite of misunderstanding looks" in-determining of one's location without the soul accounted.
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    A formal philosopher is involved with expressing a rational investigation of realty in connection with the totality of the human condition.

    An informal philosopher is someone who expresses his or her personal outlook of reality either in public or to themselves, not necessarily based on rationalism.

    I would class Zappa and Twain as informal philosophers.
    I know nothing about Anita Roddick.
     
  4. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    A philosopher is someone who studies philosophy. <--- seems a rather stupefying fact.

    This person usually has extensive knowledge concerning one or more of the fields of aesthetics, ethics, epistemology, logic, metaphysics, as well as social philosophy and political philosophy. Wikipedia

    By that definition, what the heck is an unusual philosopher?
     
  5. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    I think the question here was empirically requesting an understanding for the truth after Time was self-realized. Of course, truth is serious and proposed to the conflict with progress that the ordinary jester or inventor of ideas is trendy about.

    I've got it, man; I've got the 'grove'. :sunny:
     
  6. thedope

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    love of wisdom
     
  7. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Yup.
     
  8. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    But if they "usually has extensive knowledge" would they not have a love of knowledge? Encyclopedic, perhaps.

    I think philosophers are known to overuse the word perhaps.
     
  9. thedope

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    Knowledge is being shared. Love of shared being is wisdom. There is no such thing as someone possessing extensive knowledge as knowledge is complete but there is always more to discover. Having extensive knowledge in your terms is simply showing an interest in certain perspectives.
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Why Mark Twain and Frank Zappa and not yourself ;) Everybody who ponders about their observations and/or thoughts can be perceived as a philosopher. Or can't you be called one when you don't make money of it? :mickey:
     
  11. Monkey Boy

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    Exactly. If it's done for money then it's not love.
     
  12. Anaximenes

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    He's talking about surprises in the Steel Industry and textile fashions for form and function with amazing scientific discoveries coinciding for the persisted Future of Mankind getting better and better. Should I have been pessimistic for then, or for now?:smile:
     
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    marijuana
     
  14. Asmodean

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  15. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Not my terms, wikipedia's. I personally think life is far too vast for anybody to encompass the full body of knowledge .. not even the half of it. I get a kick out of making a running list of all the things I know I don't know. It's amusing.

    But yes, I agree philosophers like to be wise. I really just wanted to say perhaps.
     
  16. Anaximenes

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    So how is it? Marijuana should enlighten better to the inebriated state. Now a leader of nations may be regarded for the same self-realization as a lone drinker. This existing as an abstract ideal for achievement in ethical well-being acts for the state of a philosopher's Experience. OR may it act as the true topic for regarding Ethics of people in general? Maybe the lone drinker is requiring the ethics for leading nations. The leader of nations may these days in reverse require the ethics of for drinking alcohol in His People's company.:sunny:
     
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    philosophers are recognized by children as not confounding .
     
  18. Moonglow181

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    non confounding. I like that.
     
  19. scratcho

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    An interest in observing the various facets of inter- related human conditions and an ability to do so objectively. We all do this every day, just not as well as Twain, et al.
     
  20. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    All I know is that I am a philosopher. 'Why am I?' do you ask? Because when I was 11 I looked in the back of a comic book and saw the ad for X-Ray glasses. I saved up my money as best I could, because I thought it would be real cool to look at my hands and see the skeleton, or to see through the clothes of girls, and stuff. I saved and saved and then filled up the order form. But I got the code wrong, and instead of the x-ray glasses, I received an official certificate that says that I am a philosopher. At first I was real disappointed, but as I got older, I realized the power this gave me, even power over other people----just like when I wrote a letter to the Prince of Wales, and his secretary sent me back an official letter on Buckingham Palace stationary, saying that he enjoyed reading my letter. Today I still use that certificate to lord over others, or to win arguments when I seemingly have no chance of winning.

    Yes---life is good when you are a philosopher.
     
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