Please Call our MASJID "MASJID"! Not "MOSQUE"!!!

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Hi everyone, I hope you are all fine and happy today and everyday, Amen =)​

Well, one of our Muslim brothers, received this E-Mail Message, I don't know if it is real? Read it,

Please Call our MASJID "MASJID"! Not "MOSQUE"!!!​

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Please read this and pass it on to any Muslims, as much as you can. It is a vital and important information. Muslims should now refrain from using the term "Mosque". I was flipping through this book the other day called: "…." … and it is filled with fun facts. One of them concerns the term "Mosque." ​

So many of us think this is the English translation of Masjid. I'm sure none of us ever wondered how this term came into being when it really had little in common with how it sounded compared to 'Masjid'è (No, you are wrong, actually once I wondered ). (We were very young when we were taught this English word. Our minds then were not critical & analytical, so didn't dare to ask/challenge our teachers, right?)
Anyway this book pointed out that the term 'mosque' is derived From the Spanish word for "mosquito." It was termed as such because during the Crusades, King Ferdinand said they were going to go and swat the Muslims "like mosquitoes". (Where else can they find Muslims in large number to be swatted if not in a Masjid?)

So, they cheekily termed "Masjid" as "Mosque".

So, Dear Muslim brothers and sisters, refrain from using this term which is obviously a disgusting slap in the face to the Ummah. Educate our brothers and sisters to the history and etymology of this word. And let us replace it with the word which is MEANT to be used: Masjid! The Place of Prostration!! Not Mosque: the place to be swatted!
***If any of you have doubts about this, then Please look for the book and read it

Well, I've deleted the name of the Book, any idea?​

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Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Its true: You are insane.

If Im to believe Wikipedias Etymology (which is certainly about 1000 times more reliable than your kooky theories) I would say 'Mosque' is pretty well understood:
Mosques were known to the English-speaking world well before the word to describe them was established. The Mezquita of Cordoba was one of the first mosques to attract Western attention; it's name is simply one of many possible European transliterations for the Arabic masjid, or place of kneeling (in ritual prayer). However, in the fifteenth, sixteenth, and seventeenth centuries, variations of the word began to be used. Moseak, muskey, moschy, and mos'keh were just some of the variations that came into use until it was decided that mosquee, imitating Middle French, Italian, and Old Spanish, would become the standard [1]. In the early eighteenth century, the modern spelling became the most popular and standard spelling of the word.

In response to this silly rumour-propaganda story you have come up with, a scholar has reported similar to Wikipedia and more:

My research found no indication that mosque was derived from the word ‘mosquito’. Regarding the appearance of the term mosque in the English language, scholars suggest it was around 1711 AD. This is far after King Ferdinand and the Crusades. It might be that the term ‘mezquita,’ used to describe a masjid in old Spanish, came from the word ‘mosquito’ and then subsequently the term ‘mezquita’ was used to form the term mosque. However, this would not mean that the term mosque was developed as a result of the story you related.

So he is showing that even IF you tried to make all possible assumptions you still cant make that story work.

This Author even takes it further by pointing out how you could 'in theory' have a word originaly holding some derogatory premise, but after centuries it can and will long ago foresake its original intention.

Example: the Arabic term ‘ajami has commonly been used, throughout Islamic history, to refer to non-Arabs or those who did not speak Arabic. The meaning of this word is actually in reference to those animals, like goats and cows, that make one syllable sounds. Hence, the term contains cultural superiority and a arrogant insult towards non-Arabic speakers. However, now this term has become synonymous with non-Arabic speaking peoples, forsaking its original background.


Total Bullshit from you for no other purpose than trying to find more 'victim status' and to pretend there is this terrible hatred and attack on poor victimised Islam.
(Later you can use this to 'cancel out' some violence or attacks done by HAMAS I suppose).

The word 'Mosque' has NO negative meaning or intention and is used just the same way as 'Church' 'Cathedral' 'Temple' etc.

We are not gonna go around saying 'Mass-Jidd' all of a sudden as if to pretend 'Mosque' has been disrespectful all along.
You would like that I suppose.

 

Erasmus70
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First of all, thank you for the information
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Well, some times Erasmus speaks in his own language, which most of the members if not all can't understand it, so I have to translate, insane in his own language means sane, thank you for that Erasmus =) very easy to understand it , when he say bad it means good, and so on…
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Hey believe it or not, my dear Muslim brother received this mail and he wanted to be sure, myself I don't have any idea, so I posted here to be sure! You are unbelievable? And by the wayè please call our MASJID "MASJID"! Not "MOSQUE"!!! è It was the title of the message, isn't me who chose it?
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You always take off my topics, don't think I ignore it because I have no answers, but you must know why? And read this…
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Again, Thank you for the information and clarification
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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Why don't we all just convert to islam and learn arabic

 

How in the world you think I went 'off topic' is beyond me.
I replied directly to the topic.
Thanks.

Please inform your paranoid, propaganda writing friend a return email suggesting he do a little research before trying to inflame more antiwestern 'crusaders are coming' rumours.

Since you always accuse me of going off-topic (pot meet kettle) I figure I would add that 'The Crusades' are well known for three things:

- Being rather small events in history when compared to other wars (for example, Muhammed conquering the Middle East by Sword)

- Crusaders spent FAR MORE time and effort attacking and plundering other CHRISTIANS than the few times they went after Muslim Occupiers in Jerusalem.

- Even during the 'hype' and best days for the Crusaders (basically Kings and Merchants and Warlords using a 'flag of Christianity') they were still highly critisised by actual and real Christian leaders and priests. Unfortunately this criticism often resulted in getting sacked by Crusaders.

Get off this 'Crusader' crap.
you and your buddies keep pushing that stupid 'Crusader' shit all the time and you make it sound like its a 'serious issue' and that is some eternal victimisation you must still warn each other about.
For crying out loud, Crusaders would not even account for a tiny fraction of the wars the Arabs went through nobody in the Western world thought the Crusades were a good idea for about.. hmm.. A THOUSAND YEARS!

Jeepers.. Americans tried to invade Canada just 200 years ago and do you see us standing around trying to make some stupid imaginary threat or some 'victim status' about the War of 1812?
No.
Canadians and Americans have the worlds longest undefended border and proudly stand side by side while stopping Serb Paramilitary from wiping Mulsim Bosnians off the face of the planet or later going and invading Afghanistan and eliminating as many Taliban Jihadists as possible.
Ohhhhh.. but the word 'Canuck' or 'Yankee' have originally 'derogatory' meanings and lets never forget what they did in 1812!
Bullshit.

 

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Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!​

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Cat Stevens​

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Erasmus70
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Well dear, he read that from an anti-Islamic book I believe according to the title of the book which I haven't mentioned it here, but I prefer to be sure.
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Well, let's ask any fair member here to judge, no forget it, it is so clear.
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Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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You know, I'm pretty sure that that word began as a term for one specific group of people who frequently used repetitions of similar-sounding syllables, and then later it slowly became applied to foreigners in general.
You're really jumping to some pretty mean-spirited conclusions to make a certain cultural group look bad...

 

Well, I heard about this debate a couple years ago,
and as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't really matter
where the word "Mosque" came from.
Some sources say it is derogatory, some not;
but, "Masjid" is pretty much universally the term now
applied to the Masjid by the arabic-speakers and Muslims,
and the only people who use the word "Mosque" ARE
speaking in a derogatory tone, which is only stressed
by the fact that they don't know the right word.

Let's just call it a Masjid ourselves, like we have been doing,
and leave anybody who doesn't care enough to find out
as they are...
It's no big deal

 

Phrensied Rabbits
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Hi there, how are you doing friend, I wish you're fine dude =)
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Peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you brother
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Well, I don't think that people will use the adjective ''gay'' as they were doing before probably. ​

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I see, thanks dude =)
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May Allah bless you, Amen, Amen, Amen
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Dirk_Pitt
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Thank you brother ''Kenshee'' for the link
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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Hey, Cat.
Loves to you, Bro.
Is that what that means?
I can't remember the exact word that went with the story I was thinking of.
I guess I can just say "Oops."

Grouve on

 

Phrensied Rabbits
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More sincere loves to you, brother.
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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I always say masjid anyway, I am not sure of the authenticity if that article, btu it is possibly true, but do you have to say of the amny other languages that sound similiar to mosque and refer to masjid, you wouldn't say that many western nations simply followed suit, would you?

 

why can't we use the work mosque?

 

ohh i think the book where it comes from is called... 'The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Understanding Islam’
lol i know =\
but ermm follow this link for the rest of the info
http://muslimspeak.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/the-meaning-and-evolution-of-the-word-mosque/

 

My given name is johnny. Sometimes when I tell people my name they automatically reduce it to john. Should I be incensed because of the word john's
association with a toilet? Perhaps if I want to be ridiculous, or ridiculing.

 

Even if it did derive from the word mosquito, nobody is aware of it anymore! So now you're drawing more attention to it and people will start using it that way xP

 

Good morning..
Have a Happy Ramadan ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh6plGYFM1A"]YouTube- Step-by-Step Guide to Prayer 3/7 (Fajr)

 

masjid, mosque, there is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his prophet, that is what is important

 

Well the question is now for sites of holy trust and conscience, what about the Statue of Liberty? Is that a Mosque; is that a Church?:eggnog: