Please help us, it will take 2 minutes of your time every week.

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Rasheeke, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Rasheeke

    Rasheeke Member

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    I'm sure most of you have heard about the Marc Emery case. He's a marijuana activist from Vancouver. Openly brekaing Canadians laws, paying taxes on his profits for selling seeds. Canada never did anything. They took over $500,000 of the money he made in income taxes, and were please to put it into our system.

    Canada is slowly becoming more liberal with marijuana because of people like marc Emery. America doesn't like that. The DEA crossed the border into Canada, raided him, and now want him extradited. In America he faces charges that could give him life imprisonment. Because he's sold over 60,000 seeds, he's eligible for the death penalty.

    Had he been arrested in Canada, although I'd be mad, I'd be less worked up. America wants to try him for a crime he did not commit. Because he didn't do it in America. They do not write our laws or govern our country. We do. We (Canada) did not arrest him because that's the path Canada is starting to take. America doesn't get to take the law into their own hands, nor a Canadian.

    I'm 19 and in Canada I can drink. America cannot extradite me and then charge me for underaged drinking. Because I don't drink in America.

    What I'm asking of you is literally 2 minutes of your time. Once a week. To call The Honourable Richard Nicholson at Department of Justice Office (613) 992-4621.

    Ask that you'd like to speak with someone about the Marc Emery extrdition case. They will forward you to someone who will take down your message as you say it.
    Tell them it will shock your conscience that Canada would be so willing to give up one of our on on false charges. That in activist in one country shouldn't have to be punished for his actions in another. If he has broken a law in Canada, he should be tried in Canada.

    That's it. That's all I'm asking of you. Once or twice a week with essentially the same message. Don't think you won't make a difference. Calculus shows us that although an infintismal size means nothing, many put together can be something.

    Keeping the lines tied up with these phonecalls will show what the people who elected him feel like. Even Americans can call. Tell them you don't want to pay taxes to keep someone in jail, who didn't even do wrong in your country.

    If you wish, there are more things you can do. Write or call your MP. Their job is to listen to their consituents. They are to represent YOU. Tell them how you want to be represented. They don't decide what goes on. We should be telling them. That's democracy.

    http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4471.html

    That website has more information on what you can do if you wish.

    http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4639.html

    This link has more info on the entire case. Please help. It's two minutes. Less time you spent reading this. Do not be apathetic or pessamistic. If people like MLK or Marc Emery were, we'd be getting nowhere with our rights and freedoms.
     
  2. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    I'm really pissed at america about this (have been for a while too, soon's I heard about the case my bullshit radar went off) but I doubt that citizens can do anything other than bug the fuck outta people in order for them to not be extradited. Sadly he'll go down as a martyr, but I'm not sure for what cause other than to show how unjust our system is. It's sad really. When I first heard about this I was like "WTF is america doing in our neighbors country investigating its citizens?" What the fuck happened to live and let be?
     
  3. Rasheeke

    Rasheeke Member

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    I try not to believe that citizens can't do anything. I have faith that there are still people who believe in democracy, who will agree with what their people want. That's why we moved out of Britain.

    Us bugging those in power is what we're supposed to do. Elections and democracy isn't picking a side, voting, then watching what they do. We've all seem to accept it as that. It's not. They are SUPPOSED to listen to us. Not decide for us. That's Totalitarianism. There are other similar words for it, but you get my drift. They, as much as us, think it's ok. We need to remember what democracy is.
     
  4. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    Yea I love democracy, it just sucks we live in a republic. Sure they're supposed to listen to us, they're even supposed to care. Truth of the matter is they don't. However I'm not trying to discourage anyone who wants to "help" by all means go for it. I'll eat my goddamn words if something happens.
     
  5. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    gee who is marc emery?
     
  6. slinkie

    slinkie Member

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    There is nothing I would more, than to be able to help out a canadian, but I am an american citizen and what the government here does, is so out of our control as is..there's nothing for me to do about it but sit back and shake my head.

    I feel for him (marc), Tommy and countless other citizens who do nothing more than educate or help out other pot smokers and are subjected to jail time for it.




    I am with mortes on this one...if anything good does come out of those websites to help or even free Marc, I will eat crow as well.
     
  7. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    was he selling seeds to people in america?
     
  8. Socratez

    Socratez Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    What I find puzzling is the fact that Marc is the leader of a political party (one who I voted for as well). I wonder how our neighbours would react if we marched over... and try to have one of thier political party leaders extradited and charged with a crime that is not even illegal in the USA.

    Am I missing something? Has this concept even occured to any of those involved?

    I hate north america.... it sucks everywhere here now.

    Peace
     
  9. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    Yes he sold seeds to americans.

    so what?

    wasent breaking the law in Canada. Marc himself figures he is fucked.
     
  10. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    ya but he was breaking the law in the U.S.
     
  11. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    Who gives a fuck about the US, Canada is an independent country. America has no right to do anything so someone selling SEEDS TO A PLANT THAT COMES FROM THE EARTH especially if its not in their territory(sp?)
     
  12. Rasheeke

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    He sold seeds to Americans who approached him for it. One day he was in Seattle and he got arrested and charged with seed selling, conspiring to help Americans produce marijuana, and money laundering.

    That money was from him supporting marijuana legalizing groups, or medical bills of activists, ballot initiatives throughout the United States. Among other things, but they went down in Canada. I'm not to sure he can get charged with the seed selling since I don't think he did that on American soil. The conspiring charge is bogus. From what I know, Americans had to ask for it, he mailed it.The act of mailing happened in Canada.
     
  13. ronald Macdonald

    ronald Macdonald Banned

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    well by his own admission he imported stuff into the USA which makes him a criminal there so - really youre blowing a load of hotair - if you gonna do the crime be prepared to do the time !
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/02/60minutes/main1363340.shtml
    also you portray this as the USA crossing into canada to arrest him, which is utter bullshit - they are seeking extradition - not the same thing at all -
    by lying you make the case more trivial than it already is - you are really doing the guy no favours at all !
     
  14. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    Just because he lives in canada doesnt mean he can comit crimes in the US and expect to get away with it. Sorry but this guy sounds like a fucking idiot.
     
  15. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    the whole marc emery thing is bullshit. i disagree with the current laws, and i'm sure he did too. he knew he would go down and he still broke the law. the way to change a law is not to break it. i don't think we have the power to change his fate, but we do have the power to change the fate of those in the future.
     
  16. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    id have to disagree and say the BUYERS of the seeds were breakin the american law, b/c the dude that sold the seeds was in CANADA the whole time, and is allowed to sell seeds wheres he is from, although the buyers in america are the ones who fucked up, and the seed seller shouldnt b charged for anything in america, unless he commited the crime in america itself.
     
  17. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    umm im pretty sure you cant be selling illegal things to america.
     
  18. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    young deadheads right, he WAS on US soil when they arrested him. they didn't go into canada to arrest him. or thats how i read it anyway. he fucked up.
     
  19. Rasheeke

    Rasheeke Member

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    Young naive the young can be. This man is one of the msot famour and reputable activists of pot around today. He's done more for people like us, like you, than you'd imagine.

    The act of mailing occured in Canada. Customs officials didn't stop it at the boarder. Americans filled out the orders. How dare you call this man a fucking idiot. You know nothing about him.

    Yes he was in America when he was arrested, but he broke no laws while in America. They call funding other activists as money laundering. They claim he sold seeds in America but he never did.

    And when I say America is coming into Canada to take him, I wasn't all wrong. The DEA did a drug bust in Canada. I believe it's out of their juristiction.

    I think they know they don't have much of a case. He trial was suposed to be last thursday, and it's been postponed until november. It's been 27 months.
     
  20. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    Its actually not out of the DEA's jurisdiction neither are the poppy fields in Afghanistan nor are the coca fields in Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia or Peru...

    The reason this issue with Marc is so controversial is not because he didn't break a Canadian law (because he did, Canada just chooses not to enforce the law) and it is also not SIMPLY because he broke a U.S. law because there are tons of Canadian seed companies that have sold to customers in the U.S. and even continue to do so to this day... but because of the DEA and the U.S. government's choice to pursue him because he is the most proactive and well known cannabis activist in the world and he is the self-proclaimed PRINCE OF POT.

    It's controversial simply because they are trying to extradite the most outspoken pot activist in the world and they are ignoring lots of other cannabis seed distributors. He has been arrested numerous times, once in Seattle and he had his store Marc Emery Mail Order Cannabis Seeds raided by the DEA in Canada (which is not illegal, the RCMP aided in the raid).

    I urge Americans to WRITE ATTORNEY GENERAL GONZALEZ TODAY and to continue to call his office and I urge CANADIANS TO WRITE/CALL THE JUSTICE MINISTER THAT THE ORIGINAL POSTER POSTED. It should not come down to semantics over whether or not he broke a law, it should come down to the fact that a man is facing life in Federal prison over selling seeds to a plant we enjoy.

    This is how we participate in democracy and make a difference. This is also how we prove to the world that stoners are not lazy and we are willing to take a stand against injustice.

    Pass this info along.
     

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