FOR ALL OF US ANIMAL LOVING PEOPLE I SAW THIS THE OTHER DAY AND HAD TO SHARE...THINGS I READ IN HERE I NEVER KNEW AND I WAS COMPLETELY APPAULED AND DISGUSTED NOT TO MENTION VERY SAD.... I CANT BELEIVE THIS IS ACTUALLY LEGAL AND THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT. I HAD TO let others know what were feeding our furbabies when we buy cat and dog food from stores, like purina,iams,ect. HERES THE LINK.......http://www.fuzzyfaces.com/lfood2.html
Yea, what do you think where L.A. street dogs, or Australian Feral dogs go, after getting shot. A alot of dogs which have big faults, are mashed by the breeders. See, some colourtypes of the great dane, are quite hard to breed. And dogs with fucked colourtypes, which breeders often get, are in view of many breeders the waste of the litter. And what to do, with big dogs, which are quite hard to hold, and not everyones cup of tea? While some breeders give the dogs away cheaper, other ones just kill the pups, and well than it is the way into the dogfood.
i've heard of this before, but how do we know this website is accurate? where does this info come from. and if dogs were eating dogs then wouldn't there be some type of mad cow disease for dogs and cats accurring? whenever there is cannablism there is always a reaction to that act. I dont doubt this to be true, but I was just wondering about that
My neighbour bred Danes for 5 years, and guess what my neighbour did with the fault pups, if they didn't find a home... Kill them. Once he had a litter with, where all pups where faulted, and only one of them was sold to a skinhead, and so my uncle gave them to some dogfoodmaker, and to a chinese guy...
Don't believe it? read on. I've found INFINITELY more information to indicate that this is true, than information to debunk it. ANd I have searched for both. "Not believing it" is the single biggest reason why there has NOT been a consumer outcry. "It can't be real." "Must be an urban legend." It's written off, and then not researched into and not thought about again. Now's the time we need to THINK about it, gristly as it is. http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Do...dients.htm#meat (PERSONAL page of an Irish Wolfhound owner: Most people associate "MEAT" with beef. The truth is that it can come from any mammal: pigs, goats, horses, rabbits, animals from animal shelters, and dead animals found on roads. http://www.meadow-ridge-kennel.bigs.../generic34.html (kennel webpage) In 1990, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that euthanized companion animals were found in pet foods. Although pet food company executives and the National Renderers Association vehemently denied the report, the American Veterinary Medical Association and the FDA confirmed the story. (this is just one link to the article MOST reprented in this movement.) http://www.belfield.com/article3.html (web pet magazine) Yet federal and state agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration and medical groups such as the American Veterinary Medical Association and the California Veterinary Medical Association, confirm that pets, on a routine basis, are rendered after they die in animal shelters or are disposed of by health authorities, and the end product frequently finds its way into pet food. http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/cats_bse_rend.html#Recycled somewhat graphic archive of a messageboard discussion on the topic. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html exerpt on an entire book on the subject: As discussed in Chapter Two, companion animals from clinics, pounds, and shelters can and are being rendered and used as sources of protein in pet food. Dead-stock removal operations play a major role in the pet food industry. Dead animals, road kill that cannot be buried at roadside, and in some cases, zoo animals, are picked up by these dead stock operations http://www.sniksnak.com/ac/petfood2.html http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/petfood1.html Rendering plants process decomposing animal carcasses, large roadkill and euthanised dogs and cats into a dry protein product that is sold to the pet food industry. One small plant in Quebec, Ontario, renders 10 tons (22,000 pounds) of dogs and cats per week. The Quebec Ministry of Agriculture states that "the fur is not removed from dogs and cats" and that "dead animals are cooked together with viscera, bones and fat at 115° C (235° F) for 20 minutes". http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0106-03.htm The film then cut to a rendering plant that boils down the city's euthanized dogs, along with dead pigs and cows from local farms and leftover bones, hooves and innards from slaughterhouses. The end products are used to make cosmetics and fertilizer, gelatin and poultry feed, pharmaceuticals and pet food. http://www.homestead.com/VonHapsburg/petfood.html Millions of euthanized pets from humane shelters and veterinary hospitals all across the United States and Eastern Canada are being recycled back into pet foods. http://www.coopfoodstore.com/news/A...d_consumer.html http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/petfood2.html (Long and well researched, well documented article of one owner's personal investigation) A friend, a veterinarian in California, had advised me that euthanised dogs and cats from veterinary clinics and shelters were routinely rendered and used as sources of protein in pet food. As a Canadian, I never thought it would happen in Ontario, the province where I live. Wrong! I was to discover that almost every veterinarian clinic in the city was using a dead-stock removal company that picked up the pets and sold them to a broker who then sold them to rendering plants in the province of Quebec. The rendering plant that was paying the highest amount at that time, Sanimal Group, was the party that usually purchased the dead animals http://www.earthisland.org/eijourna...l97petfood.html (another personal investigation) The dead animals were shipped to a broker located about 300 miles away who sold the bodies to a rendering plant in Quebec. When I contacted the rendering plant, the owner admitted that cats and dogs were rendered along with livestock and roadkill. "Do pet food companies purchase this rendered material?" I asked. Again, his reply was, "Yes." http://www.rtis.com/reg/bcs/pol/tou...99/petfood.html This waste can include animal parts such as tongues, esophagi, tails, feet, feathers, beaks, etc., hormone, pesticide and antibiotic residues found in rendered meat tissues and meat from the 4 D's (dead, diseased, disabled and dying animals, including road kill and the bodies of cats and dogs that have been euthanized at shelters or by private veterinarians). __________________
This is true, and I would know, I have been heavily involved in training, breeding, rescue and alternative dog health circles. There are some dog food companies that don't do this, but a lot won't say anything which kinda is a giveaway that they do. Some people like me make their own dogfood from scratch or feed raw because of the thing about ingesting the poison that some of the "recycled" animals are euthanized with. My dogs eat a raw meat and bones diet, I feed them chicken usually.
Awwww....I kinda knew about this but not to this point! What have I been feeding my dog for sooooo many years (7) And I even work part time in an animal hospital. See, my dog Angus Young has a thyroid problem. So he has to be on a special diet....now I don't know what to do. Long ass talk with Angus vet coming soon! In Argentina, my dogs and cats used to eat anything...anything we used to give them. And they were healthy pets. When I came here and years later started working at the Hoboken Animal Hospital, in Hoboken New Jersey I started seeing all these weird diseases and I was shocked. I think I pretty much know why...I mean aawwww....what have I been feeding my baby! Bree, I'll start cooking my Angus meals. This was a def. wake up call. I still can't believe some of the stuff I read on Skye's post and this topic.....awwwww My problem is, I don't eat meat. So it's hard for me to see raw meat or even cook it...uuuffssss....damn...that is going to be a problem Well...here is my Angus! ~Fer~
Hehe! Cute! It's really not too bad making your dog's food, once you get used to it. It's a little work but once you get set into a routine it's not bad. A word of caution tho, if you choose to actually cook your dog's food, DO NOT COOK BONES. Dogs can eat bones, but ONLY if they are raw bones, because when they are raw, they are soft enough and can be chewed up. COOKED BONES ARE VERY DANGEROUS, because when cooked they harden a lot and can tear up a dog's insides. Feeding raw meat and bones is something you definitely need to study up on before you do it. Some dogs need supplements or other things added in with their meat and bones too, so it will be a trial and error thing before you find what works for your dog. What a lot of people do when they start feeding raw is they start their dog off on easy to eat raw meaty bones, (like chicken wings) and let them get used to that.. then they add the supplements one per week or one every two weeks.. this is done so that if the dog has a reaction to one of the supplements, you can know and eliminate it from the diet. My dog had severe allergies to grains, so this is how I figured it out. You don't have to mess with raw meat though. You can feed him cooked meat as long as there are no cooked bones in it, but if you do this, you'll definitely need to add bone meal supplements to his dinners so that he will get a good ratio of meat to bone in his diet. All this is still better than dogfood in my opinion. And since your dog has thyroid issues, I would really reccomend that you find a veterinarian that supports home-made diets or raw diets.. there aren't many because most of them get paid by the dog food companies to promote their food. Anyway if you do find one, it would be really good to have their support and let them in on the diet change if you do this... so they can monitor his thyroid problems and help you come up with a good diet for it. Also, like I said there ARE dogfoods out there that, while not as healthy as a raw diet in my opinion, are still pretty good and much better than the big coporation's products. Wellness Dogfood, made by the Mother Hubbard company, is one. Their food is REALLY healthy and doesn't contain all the crap (or other dogs) that a lot of the name brands do. There are a few other brands of dogfood that do not use recycled pets, if anyone is interested, let me know and I will post a list of the others in this thread. While preparing your dog's food specifically for them is always the best option, the fact is some people do not have the patience or time to do this, so they have to use dogfood. And in these cases, dogfood is best so that the dog doesn't get jipped on nutrition due to lack of studying about how to make homemade or raw diets suitable. That is why I am very thankful that there are a few small dog food companies that do it right.
wow! lots of info there. thanks skye for all the sites.....I didn't know about this being in makeup as well. And Fernanda, you can find pet food stores that sell only kind pet food with no byproducts. There is a store here where I live that sells only pet food that isn't made with that nasty stuff, its much more expensive though, but I guess it would be the same as if you cook your own food. Also, check out your local coop or natural food store, they should have good pet food there.
Thank you sooo much! You really took the time. You should have seen me and my sis freaking out last night because we didn't know what to feed him!!...lol Can you please tell me what other brands are good. I work in an animal hospital. My dog's vet is on vacation now. She is mad cool. I trust her so I know when I talk to her she is going to be honest with me. Angus get sick when he eats bones, so that is out of the question. But what do you mean when you say "bone meal supplements"?? I appreciate the time, honestly. When you have a chance please reply. Have a Happy Holidays!!! Angus is my baby boy, that is what I tell people, so I don't mind at all taking the extra time to cook him a meal! Fer
here is a link to a very good resource http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/pub/commercial_food_reviews/xref.html hope I got this link right, because a dog rescue friend of mine subscribes to this publication, and it is very holistic and helpful, and also includes a lot of good resources for us who feed regular dog food, but want the best. I should mention that this is not a link for free info, they want you to subscribe, but it is a very good publication, and I am in no way connected with it. Just my friend shares her issues with me and it is very reputable, but unfortunately not free. The food I feed my dogs is Solid Gold usually, and it has a good reputation. They also get some homemade cooked ground turkey (human grade but cheap) and broth with their dry food when I'm not too lazy to make it. Love to dogs and dog lovers.
The Whole Dog Journal is EXCELLENT... it's like the Hippie Dog Owner's Magazine LOL... but anyway I subscribe to it too, that's where I was going to get the list of dog foods from if I could find it in the pile. But there are a lot of good articles on that page too, it's just that you may have to be a subscriber to access the full ones. I'll still see if I can find that one with the list of good foods in it, because I know they had an article that mentioned the recycled animals in dogfood thing. Oh, and in answer to the question, bone meal supplement is basically powdered bone meal that you buy to put in your pet's food to give them the calcium they need. All it is, is bone ground to a powder. The bone the grind to make a powder is cooked, so some raw-feeders don't agree with it, but if you are not feeding bones it is better than nothing at all, as just feeding cooked meat without it can actually cause the dogs body to take the calcium it needs from his own bones and you end up with doggy oseoporosis. It is important to make sure you buy or order it from a pet feed store, because they make a very similiar thing for plants that you can buy at gardening stores... the kind that needs to be fed can be bought at pet food stores. People give it to horses too. I order mine at: http://www.upco.com/cgi-bin/Upcol.storefront/41cbf4b2009d03c4ea6dc0a80aa50745/Search/Run?SearchProductName=bone+meal&SearchCombination=or&1012=&displaysearchresults.x=0&displaysearchresults.y=0&SearchProductNr=&Attributes=1012
