Pledge Of Allegiance

My question to all is about the pledge of allegiance. We've all taken it in some form or another...so the question is this...how come not enough people are living up to the oath? If you have forgotten what the pledge of allegiance is, look in the writer's forum and you will find in there a posting called "The Pledge" by me (The Instinct) with 3 parts. 1.) what it says 2.) lamen's terms 3.) what we've done.

 

I pledge my allegiance to no country or to a God. This republic has been divided once and it is dividing right now. I will not give blood to my countries cause to kill for what we consider freedom. We are no different then the many other many empires that have fallen through history. Yes I have taken it before when I was about in fifth grade and will not do so again.

 

History of the Pledge of Allegiance
The original Pledge of Allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy. It was first given wide publicity through the official program of the National Public Schools Celebration of Columbus Day which was printed in The Youth's Companion of September 8, 1892, and at the same time sent out in leaflet form to schools throughout the country. School children first recited the Pledge of Allegiance this way:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands one Nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all."

"The flag of the United States" replaced the words "my Flag" in 1923 because some foreign-born people might have in mind the flag of the country of their birth instead of the United States flag. A year later, "of America" was added after "United States."

No form of the Pledge received official recognition by Congress until June 22, 1942, when the Pledge was formally included in the U.S. Flag Code. The official name of The Pledge of Allegiance was adopted in 1945. The last change in language came on Flag Day 1954, when Congress passed a law, which added the words "under God" after "one nation."

Originally, the pledge was said with the right hand in the so-called "Bellamy Salute," with the right hand resting first outward from the chest, then the arm extending out from the body. Once Hitler came to power in Europe, some Americans were concerned that this position of the arm and hand resembled the Nazi or Fascist salute. In 1942 Congress also established the current practice of rendering the pledge with the right hand over the heart.

The Flag Code specifies that any future changes to the pledge would have to be with the consent of the President.

http://www.legion.org/?section=our_flag&subsection=flag_history&content=flag_history

 

I am in total agreement. I also worship nothing, especially money or invisible gods. Just my two cents.

 

couldn't have saaid it better myself. I find it kind of facist to force school children to pledge they will die for something they may not beleive in

 

Do you not believe in love? Do you not believe in smelling fresh air? Do you not believe in believing whatever you want to believe in? To let something slide and be walked over is to be weak. When I say fight, I'm not saying kill or to shed blood. When I say fight, I say stand up for your beliefs. When I talk about the oath, I talk about freedom. Not about standing up for a country whose trying to be God. I'm talking about standing up for the people who want to be free. Now the question is, what are you doing for that freedom that you want to believe in? Instead of acting like chicken shits.

 

Furthermore despite the history of the pledge, I find it irrelevant compared to it's lamens terms. It's talking about not letting tyranny and oppression happen. Doing nothing about it brings bloodshed. I guess some of you want that to happen.

 

Your accusatory tone seems to imply that the people in this forum just sit on their hands and do nothing. The purpose of this forum is to call people to action, and I see that being done all over this forum.
Your passion is admirable however. And I hope that those who read your post, who are inclined to sit back and let the world just go on by, will change their attitudes and do something.

 

Pledge of allegiance was written
by socialists
to glorify government.
I do not worship government.

 

Every morning during the school year, I hear that Pledge come over the PA system. The class stands, salutes, and recites the words like mindless sheep. When I remain seated, I am glared at and oftentimes scolded by my teacher.

Ridiculous... *shakes head*

 

The country isn't exactly living up to its end of the deal either "with liberty and justice for all" so I'd say we're 50-50 all around.

 

^ besides if your black or gay

 

U r my hero.

 

I've never been someone's hero before!

 

I was also one who didn't pledge the allegiance growing up, but when I joined the Army I had to until I found my way out. All I am trying to say by this stuff is that something needs to be done instead of sitting idle complaining about this shit. I pledge to no country, but I think we should all pledge to not allow corruption, tyranny, and oppression. Pledging to no man? I find that a weak statement but well, you should at least pledge to yourself and wanting freedom from all this crap.

 

Right.
Teachers will glare at me,
& offer me no respect.
Students in schools are being taught
by sheep to become sheep.
Great system, huh?
Arghhh.. so frustrated.

 

Complaining about what who is the one complaining I gave you my reasons and you called us chicken shits whatever that means.

 

sometimes I am amazed at the lack of understanding of words. Chicken shits meaning that most in the u.s. We complain about this shit and don't do much of anything about it. Some do, some don't. Hell I'm just using my voice in here, think of whatever I say as what you want. Right now I'm kind of tired of making myself perfectly clear. If anyone wants to know exactly what I am talking about more clearly, pm me. When I say "you" I don't mean specifically you...and maybe I do. You know if you aren't doing anything don't you? And if you know what you are doing that my opinion doesn't matter nor should it effect you. If you're doing something to make a change than just support the cause of doing something. Encourage one another to speak up and possibly do something. That's all I'm doing. I'm not attacking any one specific person.

 

I don't mean to be at all rude... I know that you said you were being perfectly clear, but honestly, you lost me. The use of the word "something" overwhelmed me.

 

actually I said I'm tired of making myself perfectly clear (at that specific time). I know I'm not as clear as I can be. I'm human and imperfect like the rest of us. My referal to the word "something"...I'll try to make it more clear. "Something" as instead of bitching, complaining, posting threads about what needs to be done to make a change in this country if not the rest of the world...each day you walk outside make a commitment, even if it's simple, and just take it as far as you possibly can go. You see someone doing something wrong that effects people, you see someone fighting verbally inside a grocery store, whatever it may be...we are all responsible for each other. Why should we rely on cops or security when half the time they don't do much and sometimes they encourage the wrongs. When I say "something" I say standing up to these wrongs instead of letting them slide. You don't have to pledge to a man running a country, but how about taking a pledge to a man in need? Or a man/woman needing help, one's who are crying, dying. It disgusted me hearing the words "I pledge to no man". Each day we exist we can go out into the world awakened instead of acting like zombies to our neighbors and to people who have feelings. I don't have all the time to get into what I see all the time but all I see in here are excuses, bitching, and hypocritical comments. The "pledge of alliegance" intentions is standing up for all these wrongs, if you don't want to stand up, then the responsibility is on you for allowing this country and the world to get how it has. So really, come on. You don't have to kill to pledge to enforcing peace, corporations, dictatorship, forced control, whatever words are out there that make sense to you so be it. I'm sure I could say more and maybe in time I can but this is getting long.