Post-Industrial Revolution Society

Everyday I sit here at my desk and obsessively research and analyze what's going on, in an endless quest to uncover the truth. I don't pretend to know or understand the how and why of everything that is happening, I do believe their is a group that could appropriately be labeled the New World Order, I understand how the entire monetary system works, and I know who holds the real power. All of this aside, whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant, I cannot help but notice that subversive actions of fascist leanings against the citizenry worldwide, especially in the United States have drastically increased over this past summer. I am not posting this in the "conspiracy" forum because I feel that things have moved out of the shadows and into the open far enough that most sentient and astute people out there can obviously see whats happening, besides the word "conspiracy" oft brings about negative connotations. I am very frustrated because i'm sitting here watching my country be systematically dismantled and most people don't even realize it, they're apathetic and indoctrinated. This week the Federal Reserve and associated cronies (ie: Alan Greenspan, Hank Paulson) openly destroyed the dollar as a currency......and people are dumb enough to think that a 1/2% rate cut is good, not realizing the incredible inflation it will cause, and the eventual dumping of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Greenspan and Paulson are BOTH out there fortelling financial hardship and openly saying the dollar is falling...........people in their position KNOW that whatever they say affects the markets, yet they are IN PLAIN SIGHT, orchestrating the financial collapse of the United States.......the saddest part of it is that it's already too late, the shit storm that they have set in motion is unstoppable, we are staring down the barrel of third world status and NOBODY SEE'S IT!!! Police brutality is increasing exponentially in this country, it's amazing how bad things have gotten, people being arrested for no reason, harrassed, tasered, beaten up, murdered...........and then a positive spin is put on it when and if it ever reaches the mainstream "media" which itself has become a propaganda ministry. The American people have become enslaved by debt, and it's only going to get worse.............over the next few years the boulder will pick up speed as it rolls down the hill, what's left of our rights will be stripped away, those fema "camps" that are being built all over the country will begin to see "residents" and the era of "papers please" is already here, and only going to get more blatant. Microwave crowd dispersal technology, children tasered, forced vaccinations, firearms being taken away, precious metal confiscation, exercise of imminent domain..........what's not already here, is coming. After the dollar collapses that would be a great time to usher in the SPP, the American Union........."the "AMERO" will save us, that's what we've got to do, bind together like the EU so we can fix this mess" What are we going to do? Does everyone still think we can affect change within the system? Why doesn't anyone see this???? I am completely and totaly petrified, I have been watching events unfold for years but I have always been unsure, i've always held out hope, but now i'm seeing things happen openly, without secret......it's all too obvious, and the scariest part is..........I think it's too late. Welcome to 1984.

 

Yes, the post-industrial era, written about by all the big players like Brzezinski and even HG Wells going back to the 30s. It's now here. It's been here for quite a while, it's just that we're now beginning to see the outcome of it. If you were to even suggest to the average person that this has all been set up by design, they would think you're crazy. After all, the media hasn't mentioned it, so it must be a conspiracy theory.

This is another area where the environmental movement, controlled by the Rothschilds and their Club of Rome, has played a big role, by shipping our remaining industry abroad in the name of environmental regulations, to countries where there are none (like China). So yeah, it's been written about by all the big names and people like Jacques Attali, who spearheaded the EU and said that after the US is done serving its purpose bringing so-called "democracy" to the Middle East, it would be brought down under the weight of its own incurred debt, coinciding with an influx of people coming in from Mexico. This was written about back in 1990. Attali said that the next boat people leaving a country to find work abroad would be the Americans.

Two people could debate endlessly about whether the economy is going to collapse, but it's a pointless diversion when you understand it will happen because it was planned long ago. The average American has no clue that the people they see on TV, who they think are running things, are really just puppets working for those behind these scenes, and it will be these people who will take the fall once the shit begins to hit the fan. These people have no allegience to the US (or any other nation) because they are globalists. They are not trying to expand US hegemony as many believe, rather the US is only the temporary vehicle that's being used by these globalists as an imperial power to usher in this new global system. Once that is complete, which it almost is, the US will be brought down along with everyone else, because under this new system there can be no nations or superpowers.

People have asked me, "If the government can pull off 9/11, why couldn't they have just planted WMD's in Iraq?" The answer is simple, because those running the show at the top want to destroy this country's once good name and take away its legitimacy in the eyes of both US citizens and foreigners. The US is being set up as the bad-cop, while the UN and EU are being set up as the good-cop. This is by design, because once the economy crashes and the US is merged into the new global-fascist system, the UN will take over as the official world government, and this has been slated for the year 2012. In order to make people accept the new system, you have to destroy the perceived legitimacy of the old one so people will see the "solution" offered to them as being the only logical alternative.

 

As long as people buy into the marketing that if you vote for this...say deregulation, torte reform, welfare reform, insurance mandates, bankruptcy reform you won't have to pay more, and your security and status will be maintained...all those promises are empty and only lead to less personal and civil rights. You are giving up something you can never get back. For what? A tv and dvd in every room, an ipod, an xbox? Is it really worth it to you? The people that sell you this crock of bull, never have small print working against themselves, but they have legislated that the small print will work against you.

Funny the big boys can still file bankruptcy they can still sue you, they can charge whatever they want for services they may never provide. They can easedrop on your conversations and internet browsing, they can whisk you off to a foreign country and torture all in the name of security. Fantastic new millenium we are living in isn't it?

 

The thing is that when the Amero never arrives, the SPP never happens, the 2012 unified world government never appears, you will just shrug and move on to whatever new, improved conspiracy theories they tell you to believe.

You need some perspective. The world has been about to end for about 50 years now, if you believe right wing conspiracy theories, the sky has always been falling, and any day now its all going to be revealed. Yet that day never comes.

I don't even want to get into the economics of it - anyone who thinks it is historically unprecedented for currencies to decline without signalling economic ruin is obviously extremely gullible - but really, don't you people ever question this "analysis" you are being spoon fed?

 

If the SPP is not a viable premise then why are the American taxpayers sending corporate executives, government officials and consultants to the meetings, why is there a website on our government pages reserved for it?

http://www.spp.gov/

 

The SPP, in the sense of a political merging of Mexico and the USA (which is how the conspiracy liars try to misrepresent it), will never happen.

 

It's already happening visit the site, it's an official government site sanctioned by our president. Read the content there. Rumsfield and his pharmacuetical company have received their pay off in the form of the avian bird flu clause. It's all there Pepik.

They are not chipping me.

 

I guess you like being lied to. Yes, the SPP exists and the website exists. The problem is you enjoy being lied to by fearmongers that tell you you SPP is the end of the world.

Where is the part about political mergers and chipping? Its not there. It does not exist. You want to believe it so bad that you are willing to skip over the total lack of evidence.

 

So I guess this guy is a conspiracy crackpot, too?

http://www.hipforums.com/modules.php?name=Videos&file=viewlinkinfo&lid=535&gid=0

 

Yes, that's why the reporters are laughing at him.

 

Dude

I do believe their is a group that could appropriately be labeled the New World Order.

Why?

I am not posting this in the "conspiracy" forum because I feel that things have moved out of the shadows and into the open far enough that most sentient and astute people out there can obviously see whats happening,

All I’ve ever seen is innuendo, supposition or opinion.

What you are saying here is that if people do not just accept this hearsay, these suppositions or your opinion on the validity of a conspiracy then they are stupid.

To me just accepting innuendo, supposition and opinion as ‘fact’ and ‘the truth’ is being incredibly stupid.

You list a whole load of things but none of them actually points to a ‘conspiracy’ - unless you want them to be a conspiracy.

The mind is a wonderful thing and can create it’s own truth if the alternative isn’t acceptable.

Some people just don’t like the idea that there isn’t control, they find the idea that events happen, that the world is a confusing place with multiple interests pulling this way and that, they demand order, even if it is an evil order (and it has to be evil because so many bad things happen).

And that is ok but the problem comes when these people start spreading this shit, since they unwittingly help out some of those factions trying to influence events – they help out the rich and the right wing.

I mean come on Dude, what is you answer, what should people do?

All you seem to be doing is running around in circles claiming the sky is falling. That to me doesn’t actually help, in fact it basically hands power over to those that you claim to be against.

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The answer is simple, because those running the show at the top want to destroy this country's once good name

Countries on the whole don’t have good or bad names, the people in and out of a country have an image of that place.

The things is that most places have good and bad points, the problem that I’ve mentioned many times here is that many Americans turn a blind eye to the less salubrious parts of their history, even when it is pointed out to them, they often prefer the myth over the reality.

I would ask is what ‘good name’ is the poster talking about, what image does the poster have of America?

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And here is Rat, another one without a clue.

For what is Rat’s answer to the question of what is to be done?

Well he doesn’t really know, he kinda thinks like, that maybe, we should just leave the cities and kinda, you know, like live off the land, become like subsistence farmers, like medieval peasants. And you know kinda use wood for fuel and barter stuff to get some type of goods and services, or whatever. And you know like kinda have a tribal system, without government or corporations and you know whatnot.

So in the meantime what should people do?

Well kind of nothing, that is talk about ‘the conspiracy’ and try and get others to do nothing but talk about ‘the conspiracy’.

Don’t organise –there is no point
Don’t vote - there is no point
Don’t believe in democracy is a sham
Don’t believe in ‘governments’ they do no good.

But above all, DON’T give your support to left wing groups that are trying to counter the establishment, because they are really just the illuminati or Satanists or some other such shit.

The thing is that there is an elite, an establishment, made up of the wealthy and therefore influential. It isn’t a conspiracy it is the self interest of themselves and their class that motivates them.

And what would make them more powerful?

Well if people are not organised and act as individuals then they are a lot less powerful and haven’t the clout to confront the interests of the rich.

And if instead of organising they talk endlessly about conspiracies and talk ineffectual gibberish about unrealistic ‘new systems’ then that serves the riches purpose as well since they can gain more power in the real world.

The fewer the people that vote the better, fewer people are easier to manipulate. And all the better if the people put off voting might have voted for parties with left wing ideas that oppose the interests of the rich.

And if people become disillusioned with democracy and government then other institutions take over control, such as the corporations and the market, which just consolidates the power of the rich.

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The fact is that the conspiracy theorists are doing exactly what the elite want; it could almost be seen as a conspiracy???????

 

What does this refer to then Pepik?

 

There's absolutely no way Canada is going to go along with the 'Amero'!! I mean, we're a commonwealth country for crying out loud! Are you going to put a picture of the queen morphed with some American and some Mexican on it? Or why not just put a picture of the statue of liberty eating a burrito full of Mexicans while stomping a beaver to death?

The truth is, most Canadians actually really hate America.

The whole NAFTA thing is STILL being attacked by our media every time there's a story-- and the guy who did it to us is the most unpopular figure in all of Canadian history. Americans probably don't even know or care what his name is, but there's no one here that can say 'Brian Mulroney' without sneering in contempt. He is singlehandedly responsible for the Liberals (the opposition party) having enjoyed a majority government for fifteen years, and for ruining his own party (I mean, they were totally destroyed by the guy-- went from about 200 MPs in parliament to FOUR!) until it was finally forced to merge with the radical cowboy hick party to throw everybody off. Somehow, it worked, but I don't think it will work again. At least, I hope not.

Most Americans probably don't realize it, but every other story on the Canadian news is about America taking our resources, not thanking us for helping out, being pushy assholes, being violent whereas we are peaceful, stealing our medical professionals to work for rich people in private clinics, etc...

So basically, NO... there will be no Amero any time soon... and if there is, people are going to be very very very angry.

 

That's how I feel about Clinton, he sold us out, but here in the states, many still buy in to the free trade nonsense, and most are not even aware of the SPP.

Hell they are just now learning of Blackwater, even though they've been kissing their kids goodbye as they leave to fight the good battle. And many believe the crap Condi is handing out that our State Department can't live without hired mercenaries that come under no oversight or control of the taxpayers that are paying them outrageous amounts. We were sold NAFTA on the premise that if it didn't work we could get out. Over ten years later it doesn't work but we are paying private consultants to map out our future with the SPP.

What exactly is a consultant anyway?

 

Heywood,

You do realize that this is being fully embraced by your government as well, and that this is being kept from the Canadian citizenry, as it is Americans and Mexicans by a controlled media? So don't say that "Canadians" will never accept it, because the American people are no more likely to accept it than the Canadians. What the people want means very little to those at the top, and it will mean even less once they bring about the chaos needed for people to accept the loss of their national sovereignty, in exchange for the pre-planned "solution" to the crisis they (the globalists) create.

Your media in Canada is no less of a joke than anywhere else, which is precisely why you are completely unaware of this. They will give you the dialectical Right/Left debate to keep everyone polarized and arguing amongst themselves, but you're never going to hear anything that has a negative impact on the ones running things from the top.

You can deny all you want, but it's only a matter of time before you either face the facts in the form of a harsh reality, or you help expose what's happening and maybe try and prevent it.

 

What a surprise that Pepik and Balbus hold the position they do, some people are just insanely predictable, and some things never change. I didn't write this to debate with the likes of them, and I refuse to delve into a battle with either one of them, complete and total waste of MY time, they have their view, and I have mine, we're all stubborn and steadfast in our perspectives and a long time ago I chose to agree to disagree, history will determine the victor. Some people choose to serve their own agenda no matter what the topic (Pepik, aka Pointbreak) and some people just LOVE to debate, no matter what the topic (sorry Balbus, I respect you but i'm not playing that game) Heywood, as far as your perspective is concerned I must say I do watch Canadian news, daily....CBC and Global, their ability to really analyze or criticize anything is about on the level with MSNBC.....nothing impressive, nothing that matters, nothing earth shattering, just the same ol' status quo bullshit, spun in a way to make it look like they give a damn,and of course they don't. If the canadian government really hated America, and really cared what your citizens thought, they never would have joined the SPP, simple. as. that. Brother please please learn more about this, i'm not trying to undermine your view of things but I think theirs alot more going on under your nose (and everyones for that matter) than you think, do some research, educate yourself beyond the mainstream media, then make your own conclusions. When your done, hopefully you can understand the rage that i'm feeling, and you should be feeling as well.

Also FYI, most Americans hate what this country is becoming as well.........we're not blind, just not fairly represented.

 

BS.

Matt brings up perfectly good and feasible points when he mentions things like that.

It is possible.

Some of the happiest people on this planet:

No money
No competing
No electricity
Trading is key
Compassion for family, friends and strangers with bad luck
No government
No corporations or chain stores.

These guys DO seem happier than those in Britian:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=483251&in_page_id=1811

Don't knock it dude...or continue to and enjoy living in an artificial reality..

 

I'd rather be a free hard working peasant than a high price whore.