Post-LSD dreams

SWIM typically trip on 5 hits of white on white fluff. 7 being the most SWIM have done thusfar. The only other substances SWIM had used in this duration of time over the summer would be marijuana(hydro).

On to the story. The day after the day after the third day of straight tripping, in other words if one started on a monday I would be talking about the day after thursday, friday.
Afte having a full nights sleep on thursday night(thursday day I was afterglowing from Wednesday night 'till I went to sleep around like 12 Night to 1 AM....but I always do that out of habit) I woke up friday morning, I still felt sluggish and felt like I barely really got any rest. So I sat up, checked all my internet stuff like downloads, instant messages all that. I decided to take a shower after a while, after that I slumped down in my bed about to watch some anime or something but I was just too lazy to get up....I then just nodded off into sleep.
Probably scariest sleep I have had in a while.
Anybody here heard of like false awakenings or lucid dreaming? I am assuming a lot of you have...Well the first few times I woke up eveything in my room had a red tint, random friends I hadn't seen since high school randomly showed up and talked to me about things I don't remember. Then I snapped out of it woke up again. I heard the door unlock and open and saw my dad walk in my room an he picked on me for being lazy and sleeping because he was oblivious to my lifestyle overall or maybe he just didn't want to know...but he made fun of me then handed me one of those mass produced brownies you get in like the little debbie boxes with the rainbow sprinkles on it.....at that point I realized something was very off....I can only tell you how realistic it was seeing and talking to my dad in this dream. Then I woke up again got up flicked the light switch a few times and then ran down the small hallway of the apartment to the front room/kitchen. The house had a red tinted eerie feeling to it just like it had before in the other dreams only this time i saw my first and last name repeated in like an angled flat pattern on all the surfaces... completely reminiscent to all the lsd trips I've had but significantly scarier.I didn't really think about looking at myself but I believe in the dream I was more of an entity than a body.

I want to know what everybodys input on this would be, like about how it relates to LSD...if I may just be just clinically insane or something.
I have only had one other instance that I had an out of normal dream event happen to me, and that was when I had been clean for 3 months from everything back in like I do believe march/february 07.

I had an instance of sleep paralysis. I was in an unfamiliar home far from my normal resting place. I struggle to nudge my girlfriend at the time who was sleeping next to me to wake up but I think I was only slightly twitching. After I gave up on that I had the reminiscent feeling like I was flying and something strange was attacking me.
That overall takes the cake for making me not sleep for a long while.

The second dream one I mentioned early also made me kind of wary sleeping all together, hate it actually.
Thanks for the imput

*EDIT* also, I see small remnants of the patterns in walls trees, grass that I see while on acid(especially while smoking cigarettes)and I hadn't for about a month and they just randomly started appearing...nothing severe just like patterns on the woodgrain grass and carpet...I haven't dropped since like July....Input on that too mayb if you

 

I can relate, I have had some pretty fuckin weird dreams lately.

In my opinion, no matter how crazy it is, it's just a dream. Why worry about it? It's just the latent content in your brain displaying itself while you sleep. All those underlying thoughts and such. So obviously, your dreams of seeing things that you saw on acid happen, it's just things that are deep inside you. I don't think its anything to worry about.

Also, seeing the weird patterns and such, I see that too, again, I wouldn't worry about it.

I've learned to trust my mind and what I see. Trusting my mind has got me out of a rut where I had a lot of anxiety and such from post acid use.

Trust your mind and learn from it, think of any experience in a positive way, and you'll be a lot more peaceful. =]

-Zencer

 

I'd take a break with the psychedelics and get some good sleep for a few weeks straight. Take it easy, have fun and just rest for awhile. I think the worst you can do is worry too much about it, and psyche yourself out. I think it's good to remember that concerning yourself with certain images or thought patterns will cause you to pick up on them everywhere.

 

Ah this happened a good while ago when i was hitting it heavy...5-7 hits a couple times a week.

but it was either dirt cheap or free.
and i since i could get it in such excess me and my friends got some of it tested.

around 100 ug a hit(if not a bit more rather than less) these puppies.

definite good shit.


i might dose it up sometime soon and wander around in a corn maze.
excitedddd
and kinda sketched out about what may or may not happen
mainly excited tho.

 

Don't worry about your dream. Did LSD have something to do with it? It's possible. You mentioned sleep paralysis. I think weed and LSD tend to make us zone out a bit... they quiet the ego. I know a good bit about lucid dreaming and what causes them, and it is quite possible that in a weird post-tripping afterglow state, it was very easy for you to QUIETLY slip out of your body and into the dream world without losing consciousness. You see, if you are really really tired and drunk, when you pass out, you crash very hard and you wake up as if you'd never fallen asleep. In order for lucid dreams to happen, the exact opposite must occur - you must maintain consciousness and awareness as you fall asleep (or regain it once you have started dreaming). This is the only way that LSD could've caused the lucid dream - that is, by simply frying you enough so that you were more prone to fall asleep gently and gracefully, facilitating a lucid dream state.

But yeah, don't worry about it - totally normal even for non-trippers.

 

oh yeah, lucid dreams are INCREDIBLY realistic. It really IS freaky, eh? Our brains are so powerful... to be able to construct entire realities with the mind alone. Crazy!

And one other note - I have had one or two INSANE acid flashbacks while dreaming. I've heard of this happening to others too. Doesn't help us much here but, I've always thought that tripping is related to dreaming (the visuals, out of body, twisted logic). Perhaps the lucid dream just reminded your brain of the acid visuals, and you started to see them or notice them again.

 

Considering it was after multiple hits of white on white you were at hte time probably legally insane. Every time you do acid I beleive you get a little bit closer to another world, but it really depends on how much you let yourself go.

No scientifically speaking every time you take acid depending on how firm your grasp is on reality you become a little bit more legally insane. Taht's a small price ot pay for infinite knowledge however.

 

It is more likely that your 'weird' dreams were cause by sleep paralysis. I don't think LSD would have been a primary factor in that experience.
Its also important that you had just woken up a little bit ago and so you would not have fallen asleep as quickly or as deeply, leaving you more awake and concious to have those experiences.

 

i think there is definitely something wrong with you! because what you explain happened to you is something that i would enjoy and welcome into my reality. dreams can be very revealing - there is something you are supposed to pay attention to a learn from what your dreams are saying.

why are you afraid of these dreams?

i had a dream once - i actually fell asleep on a lot of acid. i woke up (i think) to a black transparent figure approaching me (looked like the grim reaper) when it got to me it took over who i was and i remember saying in a very creepy voice that i was going to kill my friend. i was able to fight off the energy and woke up with no intention of killing my friend. i was able to sleep fine the next night! after all what is there to be afraid of really? that which we do not understand is for us to try to understand better NOT to be afraid of.

to think that you are actually considering that you might have a mental illness is what is crazy - typical thanx to all the government propaganda with respect to LSD. well i know one thing for sure - you have been programmed like the rest of the drones, LSD is trying to wake you up! (your not going crazy you are waking up from being crazy)... maybe you just took too much. too much too fast can cause system overload. relax and stop worrying about it. dont trip for a while and i am sure you will be just fine.

if you start down that "i think i am going crazy" or "i think i might have a mental illness that the acid has uncovered" road you will create it so. we create our reality and you will do lots of damage to who you are with that STUPID fear. the reason that people think that this is possible with LSD is because it happens all the time - people who are afraid that they might be going crazy or afraid that maybe they have a mental illness that the acid is making worse actually create it so. therefore there are tones of people who are fucked up from acid and plenty of people who believe that acid can fuck you up - when the real truth is that they are fucked up because they believed it was possible and in their fear made it so.

trust me - you have nothing to be afraid of - if you can believe me. if you have no fear then there is nothing to fear. if you are afraid then you will experience exactly what you need to justify your fear.

"the only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

 

mental illness?
why would i not be mentally ill?
i was just curious if that was a high sign that i should stay off lsd for a while...but i came to that conclusion myself.

you want to know the reason i was afraid?
it wasn't the general disposition or signs that the dream showed me.
i was just leaving a few examples of what happened in that dream that i could vividly remember.

just imagine the feeling of being trapped in a dream, trapped in your mind...and consciously knowing and getting the feeling that you may be trapped in such a state as that forever.
i was afraid because i had a complete utter loss of control.
i couldn't make myself wake up like in normal dreams..each time i forced myself to wake...i just woke into another dream.
i related it to my recurring sleep paralysis problems, which i also happened to be afraid of...imagine waking up...kinda and not being able to move and also get attacked by some unknown force.
it's not an illogical fear to be afraid of such things...i looked into the sleep paralysis thing and some of my family members who sadly reside in psych ward at this moment had bouts of that...i had my sleep paralysis problems when i was completely clean no drugs no anything, as well as having a family history of chemical imbalance i don't think it's silly to think that i am possibly clinically insane...a lot of people who are clinically insane exist free in this world...it's all dependant on how much an individual can handle..i wasn't necessarily afraid of anything i the dreams but just the trapped feeling that i felt with it.

the fear of being trapped is realistic and well...a very real fear to have.

saying you aren't afraid of something is a cop out.
embracing the fact that you can be afraid and rise above it, that is what it takes.
i know the goverment put a stigma on acid...i'm not afraid of acid whatsoever.
i am afraid of being trapped, and that was a realization i gained from acid....you first must realize your fears before conquering them.

but saying you aren't afraid of anything means that you either haven't looked enough or you are just not smart enough to realize that fear is very real.

religion and spirituality was essentially based on the fear of death cha kno?

 

i understand that the fear is very real. its just that you dont need to fear anything. you do it to yourself - even the feeling of being trapped in the dream or whatever is your creation in some way. learn how not to fight or be afraid of it and i am sure it will no longer be a problem.


believe it or not fear is a choice.

try meditation, i think it will help you!

 

Again...

Your dreams were not caused by LSD.
It was not in your bloodstream or affecting your mind at the time you slept.

 

I previously just wrote an overextended answer(longwinded) to this pretentious reply you have graced this thread with, alas I accidentally deleted it somehow and cannot recover it.

I will again reply to what you have said in precisity.

My dreams were not caused by LSD?
So you are know the authority on how LSD effects the mind, LSD being in my bloodstream is irrelevant...we all know LSD metabolizes within hours so if it is a good ways over a day almost too since i ate any cid it will obviously not be in my system, but effect me where the fuck are you going with that?

Do you sincerely think that LSD doesn't change the way you see and take in life in all aspects? If you agree that it does, why wouldn't that carry over to your subconscious dream world, your dreams are produced by your mind correct?

If you know anything about the interactions between LSD and your mind?
I will lay it out for you from my knowledge, not to act pretentious but just to give you basic scope of what i know(not a detailed one of course)

LSD as well as other psychadelics...most really affect your mind in a curious way from what I have seen and heard...I mean I don't believe everything that's said around(i know...lsd doesn't make your brain stem fucked..all that shit is bs) but like i guess i go with a saying i think it was confuscius...which i can't quote due to my slow internet at the moment.
he was pretty much layed out like about believing everything you agreed with, you not anyone else...


which pretty much means that i have to decided on my own what is true to me and until proven otherwise it is deemed true(simple human thought processes really...look at the god nuts....they are super convinced in themselves...everyones raised differently )

but back to what i was getting at.
LSD and other psychadelics so i've head create what i would call "extra" neurotransmitters
serotonin (which is as the few journals i've read and will link if asked about)
is what? pretty much everybody on here knows what it is *kinda* i do assume.
The chemical breakdown is that serotonin is an indoleamine and a variant of what what tryptamine(the one in question is the naturally occuring dmt in our bodies) which means when new tryptamines are introduced they do what...they effect the way your brain processes things...imagine you are playing volleyball for example and there originally is one ball...but then they add in like fucking 3 more...you very easily could operate at capacity but it would change the way you are going about playing the game all together(don't take this example by heart...the brain is obviously millions of times more complex than a volleyball game)
LSD for example is a large and verily complex tryptamine...sooo.
i am just going to blindly guess that even without the base chemicals metabolizing through your body...the alterations of how your mind processes things will still be altered...some say a good thing...you see things differently...not in a different light like you are lacking something but in a light that you are just processing things differently than you used to.
i believe people that already are prone to processing things quite differently already(for example i'm left handed) the mindchange you get from acid may or may not be as drastic, for me i used lsd to help guide me in the right direction in problemsolving.

it also enhanced my focus by atleast 300 fold.
maybe not so much in the computer aspect, but in appreciating and taking in nature...which i probably could carry over to the computer...learning from nature can make my graphic design better i assume.

but back to what i was saying about the dream aspect of it.
if i was already toying with dreams as you say(willingly or unwillingly) and after doing lsd ...alot i happen to unwillingly slip into a lucid dream and some of the visuals i posses when i did lsd ...does it really seem outrageous to think that lsd had nothing altogether to do with the difference in lucidity and general effect over me. I would like to say that lucy isn't restrained to a waking mind or a sleeping mind from days away.
Lucy stays with you in some way always(not literally).

but aren't you the one who made a thread about relating LSD to dreams.
Saying drugs don't affect your dreams is about the silliest thing I have ever heard.

I believe that anything consumed or not consumed effects your dreams some way or how...maybe not drastically...but in some way.

hope i didn't seem like a prick overall in this ...tried to portray a positive message...always do when i am a bit tweaked

 

ofcourse drugs effect dreams. everyday experiences effect dreams little own a profound acid experience. not to mention the way lsd opens up some of the barriers to your subconcious id say permanetly. like somone said in another post, its like opening pandoras box.

since i took acid the dreams i have been having are astounding.
the complexity and bizare manifestations my dreams have are amazing. i love waking up some mornings and thinking, "wow jesus fuck my mind created that". the dreams are so much more creative and "out of the box".

there is no denying that lsd wont alter your dreams. well from my experience i couldnt imagine it not changing your dreams.

my post lsd dreams are amazing and i look forward to them.
only bad dream i have had since lsd which i first took maybe 6 months ago or more.
was only one bad dream out of countless dreams. and i was on lsd in the dream on a bed shakin like a jack-hammer with all the feelings of acid, terrified strange createures or people around me.

 

LSD changes everything. You could take a whole year after your first trip just discovering in what ways you think differently. My confidence, my belief in my self worth, has risen ten fold. I wish I had known about acid in high school because if I had this kind of nerve, I'd have told a lot of people off and won a lot of respect.

I am a braver man than I was a few weeks ago, that's for certain. After experiencing this transformation, I have no doubt in my mind that if you say your dreams have change post-acid, then that is reality for you. You know your mind better than any of us, and that's just the truth.

 

Dude there is nothing wrong with you trust me

I eat similar amounts in a single night of tripping...usually 2 or 3 on a wack and then 2 or 3 more before the nights over. When I trip frequently in a short time span i get sleep paralysis, during which my entire body is locked and im halfway conscious, yet conscious enough to realize the extent of whats taking place. While this is going on I get fullblown flashbacks. Not minor visual disturbances, full blown flashbacks like im actually peaking. Its fucked up but when your use decreases it subsides. Im just going from personal experience here; I have no idea what the science is behind this phenomenon.

As far as lucid dreams...my whole waking existence feels like a lucid dream; when I dream shit gets REALLY weird. I remember every aspect of my dreams to such precision that I'm able to pinpoint the exact emotion I felt during a specific part of the dream as if it was something that had actually occured. And what's more...the dreams are so incoherent and strung together, they literally make no sense at alllllll. Random people who i havent seen in years, literary characters, musicians, people whom ive NEVER seen before with personalities to accompany their unfimilar features. Really random shit. When I wake up it makes NOOO sense...but while im in the dream its totally plausable and coherent and i can control all of it on a whim.

But yeah...that shit doesnt go away and that didnt come until after heavy LSD use. Its awesome though, i really look forward to sleeping everynight because its like a new adventure everytime. My hypothesis is that after explorations of ones unconsciousness through psychedelic use, you gain a the ability to do so secondarily when your not on psychedelics, I.E. sober or (even easier because your already in an altered state of reality) dreaming or sleeping.

 

you are only part right. i would agree that there is nothing actually wrong with him but because he believes that there is something wrong with him there is. there is something very wrong with someone who believes there is something wrong with them when there was nothing wrong with them until they wrongly thought that something was wrong with them!!! thats LSD and propaganda for ya - watch out!

i have been doing LSD for over 10 years and the only reason there is nothing wrong with me is because i am crazy enough to believe that it is possible for me to be completely sane after so much LSD use.

 

i had a weird dream last night. i was in bed with a female horse. and it could speak english. but because the brain of the horse is diffent to ours, the way it processed and spoke our language was so strange. and it kept trying to come onto me. and then it tried to rape me.
then i dreamt my dog died, and i cried in my dream, and woke and had tears in my face.
maybe cause i did 7 pills on the weekedn.

 

"7 pills on the weekend" ... are you aware of the long term after effects with ecstasy? i got into that stuff pretty heavy but never 7 pills in a weekend. i used to do 3-5 every week or so. - took me well over 2 years to recover. it was like i could only be happy on ecstasy. that shit really fucks with your brain chemistry BIG TIME. a good drug to do a few times. i would say that any more than 10 trips is too much (i took probably 100 trips before i realized how stupid i was being.)... the more often you take them the more you have to take. some say the damage is permanent - i feel like i have recovered but i am not sure about fully. by the sounds of it you are already in too far.

best you get out with whatever happy juice you have left and try to make the best of it. if you keep on going with the ecstasy you might as well be smoking crystal meth - very similar in chemistry. both very bad for you - but for some reason one is still somewhat socially acceptable. if you wouldnt do crystal meth you shouldnt be doing ecstasy.

 

dont worry after this weekend that just passed i dont think im doing any more. it was fun for a while, but now iv never felt so shit, and been so tired for days. im getin in shit with my mum, im fucking up everything, iv done exactly 51.5 pills in my life. so i should be good. me n my friends somhow started doing pills everyweekend, for the last few weeks, we had in mind that we would do one type of drug for a few weeks then change to another, we were waiting for some acid, but its taking longer than we had thought.
just felt like i was discovering alot of things. smoking weed with em, and listening to music, chilling with friends, being in heaven, seeing the music in your mind. amazing