Privatization

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gardener, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Please, someone give me an example of when privatization worked. Let's view the opening dates the term of the experiment and how well it peformed.

    I am serious please list your examples. I keep hearing how government fails, I want to follow up on how well privatization performs.
     
  2. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I hear the stridulations of a multitude of Gryllidae.
     
  3. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Privatization as far as what?
     
  4. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    would you clairifie?
    lol!!
     
  5. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    There are few examples in the US because nothing was ever nationalised.

    In other countries, such as the Czech Republic, virtually the entire economy went from state to private.

    Capitalist countries in which state companies were privatised include most of the world. British Telecom, British Airways, Deutsche Post, Nippon Telephone and Telegraph, Aer Lingus.... read the list yourself.
     
  6. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Sweden as a whole in the 90's, Britain as a whole in the 80's
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Does that include Health Care?
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Doesn't the Czech Republic have a public health care option?

    http://www.expats.cz/prague/article/prague-relocation/house-auto-insurance/

     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Not simply a cricket, although maybe somewhere in my evolution.

    But some one that truly wishes to understand just when privatization has actually benefited the average working person. I remember being told to vote to deregulate utilities in California, and I watched as Enron pushed our winter bills over three times what they had been in the past. They've never come down. They continue to escalate. I watched as we privatized our prisons in California haven't seen any decrease in state funds being spent on them. I remember when Ma Bell was broken up...why is it ATT is now a monopoly once again.

    I am waiting for one concrete example of when privatization has really worked.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Anything in the modern world that has worked in benefit to a society as a whole.
     
  12. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    When did this become specifically about health care? And the problems with government run health care have already been stated numerous times in other threads. Now is this a thread about privatization in general or just healthcare?
     
  13. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    So you don't connect America's free enterprise system with America being a wealthy country? Would America be as wealthy if all of it's businesses and industries were owned by the state?
     
  14. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Or this case in the whole world in general. People can say what they want about jobs that were lost in the 80's during Reagan and Thatcher, but the fact is they finally ended stagflation, and the jobs that went were jobs that still only existed because of protectionism.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Not specifically about health care, but if the entire population is covered shouldn't it be an issue? And if a percentage of GDP is covered by healthcare shouldn't it be an issue? Doesn't that percentage contribute to the health of the rest of GDP?
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    How wealthy are we today? What percentage of our wealth is underwritten by foreign loans? What percentage of the US are considered wealthy?
     
  17. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Which jobs exactly were those?
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I never promoted nationalizing all business, I just questioned how privatizing the infrastructure we had and protected ever gained average citizens anything. And the only examples I was ever given so far were nations with nationalized health care systems...go figure?
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Someone please paint me a rosey picture of a country like the US with no protections which has privatized everything where privatization has lead to a superior civilization or society?
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It depends on how you define a wealthy country? If you define it as a few becoming very wealthy at the expense of all others. Yes free enterprise allowed that on the backs of those that actually manufacturered the goods and performed the labor. Wealthy country...how are we wealthy when foreign countries own our debt and taxpayers had to bailout our financial system?
     
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