psychadellic commune

Discussion in 'Communal Living' started by rygoody, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    Is there such a commune where people just like participate in regular mushroom use. Grow there own vegetables, live in cobbs.

    Yes, it's a fantasy land, but does it exist out there somewhere?

    Ive been emailing various communes I've found and 'commune' now seems to be a group of middle-aged adults with careers who want to share a piece of land to raise there kids in a safe, child-friendly, enviroment.
     
  2. dilligaf

    dilligaf Banned

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    wow i am sure they are impressed basing a decision on your life over mushroom use....
     
  3. poorphucker

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    A lot of people actively practice Shamanism whether it be with the use of entheogens or without.

    I base a lot of decisions upon my use of entheogens and my future decisions will also be influenced.

    I can understand the lack of awareness when it comes to the use of entheogens for "religious" purposes.... and can also see that there is a major concern over legalities in certain areas... but it would be closed minded to "look down" upon someone because of their own beliefs.

    Not too "rainbow".... but then again... not much is anymore ;)

    As for communes that are out there that support the proper use of entheogens... there are a lot more out there than one would think. They really do not "advertise" themselves as much as other communes.
     
  4. sidd

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    It is psychedelic not psychadellic I think anyone with some common sense is not going to advertise that type stuff, law enforcement would probably start an investigation and close them down.
    What is a cobb?

    Sounds like you are looking for a younger type hippy crash pad. Maybe you could go to Northern California and get a prescription for marijuana and start a grow op and make your own drug fueled commune. Maybe grow some shrooms on the sly or just trade your extra MJ for shrooms LSD and other supplies to fill the cupboards of your psychedelic commune.
    Just a thought

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  5. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    ill save her the trouble,, she never has claimed to be rainbow,nor does she consider herself rainbow.. she just has a HELLUVA LOT of friends and acquaintances that profess to be,, for what thats worth nowadays.. ;)
     
  6. chaz2zeek

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    Hey rygoody, I just recently returned from the intergalactic gathering in mexico_One of the original intentions was to build a permanent settlement.While I was there I helped build cob ovens"clay,sand,and grass from cleared kitchen/camp sights".We planted seeds for gardens,there were already citrus trees on the land,"brute fruit as it were"
    Without giving to much away the sight is surrounded by cow pastures.Might be worth looking into as this hits several key points you listed. chaz
     
  7. MovedOn

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    mushrooms are wise teachers
     
  8. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i think what she means to say is, making a decision on where to live based on the availability and use of mushrooms is just not the smartest thing ..

    i do wish people would use some common sense ,read the o.p. and try and look past there philosophy on mushrooms before attempting to correct dilli...

    cause i can assure you a mushroom trip cant make a commune livable for any extended period of time,it cant assure that there will be food on your table.. nor can it guarantee that the people there will be like minded enough that you will be able to cohabitate with those around you in harmony for any period of time ..

    IMO,, anyone that would base such a decision on that criteria,no matter what there spiritual beliefs about mushrooms is not the brightest bulb in the closet.

    therefore i wouldnt want them at a commune i resided at even if the commune in question did practice spirit journeys on a regular basis....

    i mean come on people,,,shouldnt the priorities of survival and coexistence come before the availability of mushrooms??

    no you say? then just go sit in a corner and eat mushrooms till you die.. thats about all your good for otherwise..
     
  9. MovedOn

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    certainly though if a commune was formed off of it
    everyone there would be of the same opinion who came to participate

    and I think it can guarantee like-mindedness at least in the spiritual department
    because enough hallucinogens eventually dictate the same spiritual belief to everyone.
     
  10. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    no way dood.. that is just naive thinking..

    the number of trips one takes in no way gaurantees like mindedness..

    if that was indeed the case the rainbow family in general and A campers would get along far better than they do..

    just because someone trips multiple times as a means to take a "spiritual journey" doesnt mean they are like minded..

    religious,moral and political beliefs vary greatly even among those who partake in mushroom journeys.

    as far as that gos,there are child molesters,rapists and murderers that trip on a regular basis(yes all live in some commune somewhere) under the guides of a spirit journey.. an id like to think you wouldnt want to live with any of them...

    dont be so naive as to assume that if everyone takes spirit journeys that they will be like minded...
     
  11. sidd

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    Rygoody I think you should just go out and try to make your dream happen (but don’t get in legal trouble).
    I think what people are trying to say is it won’t be that simple. But if it falls apart you will know how to build it better next time. It’s all an experiment.
    You don’t need a million dollar piece of land get an old school bus a pound of shrooms and go to National Forest for a bit.
    To me it’s about finding your own happiness some people want to eat homegrown food and look at the stars and some people want to do drugs all day. Usually the drugs all day isn’t a sustainable life but a lot of times the homegrown food isn’t either.

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  12. Barbuchon

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    Sometimes it's just takes "A LITTLE BIT" more than a desire to get really fucked up. Dude... it's not because you hit a double dipped acid cap that it means you are a super power shaman living in harmony with the nature loool.

    Don't you even know how much work there is to be done. How the fuck would it be possible and an intelligent decision for a community to do such a thing as base it on psychedelic uses. A bunch of weirdos that can't even figure out how to bash a nail with a hammer because they think the hammer has the right to choose his utily in life?!?

    I'm not shittin' on psychedelic, I've done them in the past, but it's because they can be great done in a certain ways that you have to base your life on it. You can do them SOMETIMES.

    What am I thinking would be a better solution... I've heard of a montain in Mexico that is surrended by fences where the mushrooms grows like weeds and you can eat it all the one you want but you can't get out with some. Try to make a week or 2 I bet you'll get away soon, or you'll die there.
     
  13. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    well said HHB, well said.
     
  14. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    as fun as that may "sound", I would have to pass
    I can only imajine...er maybe I cant what sort of decisions would be made at such a plot of space.

    I mean I made a decision I was a rabbit at the colorado gathering on shrooms, and bounded off into the medow popping my head out of the grass once in a while.....but Then I forgot what I was and ...well the rest just kinda freaked me out......


    sounds like fun.....but so does wrestling a bear ina body suit....wouldnt do it
     
  15. MovedOn

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    I disagree entirely.
    It's only an issue of time until everyone finds the
    One singular 'religion' or 'belief' on their path.
    There is only one viewpoint. You may need to
    try something stronger than mushrooms if you
    haven't seen this yet.

    Anyways, I think you guys misunderstood me.
    A 'psychadellic commune', the goal of the psychadellic
    is not to get 'fucked up' or even to just do psychadellics.
    The goal of the 'psychadellic' part is to provide guidance
    to everyone and centralized spiritual practice. And by
    'regular use' I was meaning more, ritualistic use. Perhaps
    couple times a month. Maybe less. Depends.

    I don't see why you consider this absurd, this is how shamanic
    communities still function today. Even the traditional native
    american tribes. The sages, wise elders, the shamans, the
    most experienced travellers and clearest viewers of the
    'sacred dimension' provide the guidance and structure through
    out the community. To me the most visionary, the most
    spiritually accomplished aren't just what 'should' be the leaders,
    they naturally gravitate towards such position because every
    one can just sense the aura of the person. It is the natural
    community structure for humanity. This is even how, in the 60's,
    the old communes initially formed. It did all gravtitate around the
    most spiritually (psychadellically) accomplished.

    I get the feeling that all of you think a commune should be
    structured off the person with the most buisness management?
    Who has the most thoroughly planned out checklist of necessary
    tasks to do and the best buisness plan to make money? To me
    that is completely absurd. To revolve a community around a
    buisness practice, to revolve a community around knowledge
    instead of wisdom. Seems to completely negate the entire
    purpose of making a commune.

    I have got in touch with some people looking to do the same
    thing I've been talking about. So maybe something might happen.
     
  16. dilligaf

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    i can say that if anyone called here or sent an email here n asked if we were a psychedelic commune or way station or hostel whatever term you choose to insert here ,, it would be a flat out no.... for many reasons...

    one singular religion or belief on the path???... so are you saying that no matter your beliefs that if you do enough mind altering substances amongst others that it will evolve everyones belief into one belief system,,,
    that aint happened yet in this world in all its years of existence ,,, what makes you think magically it can be done now...

    how many 60s communes are still functioning,,, how many communes formed every year ever function ,,, n of those that do function how many fail after a few short years... very few survive... and fewer yet survive and contribute it to the like mindedness given to them thru hallucinogenics ... there is so much more behind tribal or communal living that is being left out here.. and unfortunately much as i would like to think it doesnt communal life does revolve around best management tactics, best workers most productive etc,, happiness doesnt just grow on yer local mushroom log much as we would like to think it does... and would hope it would.., faith n religion have there part i aint sayin it dont but to base it upon the wisdom and guidance of a selected person on mind altering substances no less amounts to nothing more than a cult and its sheeple...
     
  17. RELAYER

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    I dont want to put words in Ry's mouth but I think what he meant by a singular vision is that there is only one God, no matter what name we give it, how we comprehend it, or how we worship it, it's still the same thing. And I agree with this but I would have worded it differently, and possibly not included it in this discussion to begin with because I dont see how it is relevant to the situation. But that's just me.
    Anyway, Im sure everyone who has taken psychedelic drugs and gotten more out of the trip than just getting fucked up, has felt that feeling that can not be expressed in words but is quite easily understood on another level. That feeling that we are all touching the same thing and it's beautiful and profound but what the hell is it and where did it go when the mushrooms wear off? I think that's what he meant.
     
  18. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    ya it didnt really need to be brought up, I was just trying to defend myself
     
  19. Barbuchon

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    Soooo... what are you trying to say..? Are you actually trying to tell me that you are one of them?

    Oh and by the way, since when getting poison in your system is wisdom or spiritual. There's many other ways to achieve it, and so far, better off for your system. Don't get me wrong, it's all about getting fucktop... it can be spiritual if done properly, SOMETIMES, not on a regular basis.

    And for you own good;

    plastic shaman is a pejorative colloquialism used for individuals who try to pass themselves off as shamans, or other traditional spiritual leaders, but who actually have no genuine connection to the traditions they claim to represent. Rather, plastic shamans use the mystique of these cultural traditions, and the legitimate curiosity of sincere seekers, for personal gain.

    I know you ain't tryin' to be some guru but first thing I taught when I read your post was; PLASTIC SHAMAN.

    You know... your shit doesn't make senses to me. That's alright, none of my business. But whatever you think man, it needs hard work to have bread on your table, and poison isn't the answer, quite simple isn't it?!? You don't need to philosophy on that, it's just the way it is.

    And if you meant only eat some mush 1 time a mounth, why the fuck do you call it a psychedelic commune?!? You know, you sound kind of ...
     
  20. dilligaf

    dilligaf Banned

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    very very well said barbuchon... bravo!:)
     

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