quantum musings

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by andallthatstocome, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. andallthatstocome

    andallthatstocome not a squid

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    had this thought... any sufficiently small entity behaves as both a field-wave and particle, until an interaction with an observer causes the wave-function to collapse, defining the properties of the resulting particle interpretation. The electrochemical state of the human brain is a highly complex system which can be described by chemistry, which inevitably reduces to quantum mechanics.

    this is where it gets interesting; the mind is fundamentally the observer and interpreter of sensation, these sensations corresponding to electrochemical states. However, we can, to a large degree, choose how we feel; thus, it stands to reason that the mind as observer willfully manipulates how the wave function collapses, at least in the sense of its dependent electrochemical system. Given this, we are left with two options; either mind is somehow contained by the brain and it's processes, in which case it is a biomechanical system capable of collapsing it's own wave function, or the mind exists independently, leaving the problem of mind's interaction with matter unresolved. In either case, this leaves the mind free to collapse wave-functions external to the body independently of any tangible interaction with the observer-manipulator's body.
     
  2. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    so , i wonder about the nature of life forms that seem
    only made of light . i observe them . they intelligently relate
    to space , the physical . they have a spatial 4d existence ?
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Think of it this way.

    You're standing on a rock. A wave hits the rock. Drops of water splatter on you. You physically experience the wave as a series of droplets on your skin, a force of energy buffeting you, a sound wave, etc.

    Now you're underwater in front of the rock. A wave comes, your body moves along with the wave, but your experience of it is something completely different.

    The difference is one of subjectivity vs objectivity. In the first scenario you objectively experience the wave because you're not part of it, only experiencing its effects.

    In the second scenario you become part of the wave, you are moving with its energy, in its flow.

    I don't know why but that should help understand some of the dynamics involved.

    It would seem that our experience of reality involves both scenarios. Particles hitting us and waves which we flow with. If we allow ourselves to go with the flow, we immerse ourselves in subjective experience. If we analyze everything we lose our subjective connection and life becomes a series of objects (physical and non-physical) to be manipulated to our advantage.

    Now if you can merge both experiences, of the wave and the particle, the objective and the subjective, you no longer experience the duality, but the unity of all things...

    You are the wave, you are the rock, you are the droplets crashing upon the rock, you are one with all.
     
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