Question on Political Stances of Those here

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TheVampireLestat, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. TheVampireLestat

    TheVampireLestat Member

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    What do you guys consider yourselves? Liberal, Conservative, Moderate, Libertarian, Neo-Conservative, etc?
    For example, I'm:

    -Fiscal Conservative
    -Socially Moderate (Pro-Choice, supportive of gay marriage, for secure borders, etc)
    -Conservative foreign policy (as I in, I don't believe in America getting involved in the affairs/wars etc of other countries, am against nation building etc)
     
  2. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    i honestly don't consider myself to "be" anything ~

    but i DO strongly believe that we should stick to our Constitution, so.
     
  3. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Fiscal conservative
    Socially liberal (pro-choice, pro-freedoms in general)
    But I find myself to be quite conservative in one particular social field: law should be harsh; murderers should not live.
    Actually, I guess I'm conservative with issues of government involvement too, cause I am highly critical of the Welfare system and affirmative action laws.

    I find myself to agree most with the libertarian party, aside from their last candidate and their open immigration policy.


    And I'm for listening to that Constitution thing too.
     
  4. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

    There it is,

    in all it's glory!

    WITH explanations of what each Article and Ammendment (supposedly) means. :rofl:
     
  5. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    I am also in favor of living according to our constitution. BUt in reading it, if you give it serious thought, over the past 200 years our own "elected officials" have violated or supported the violation of nearly every amendment therein.

    Labeling ourselves would neither negate nor stop that.
     
  6. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    I can't place a label on myself either. What Duck says rings familiar, altho I don't really think murdering people is a cure for murderers... Only convenient for those left standing.

    I guess I take what I think is right from all categories and put them all together to create my world.
     
  7. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, that's my main reason for my support of the death penalty.
    I think it's definitely more preventative than a life sentence. Imprisonment is definitely not as scary as death to most.
    But I don't see any reason to waste resources on people who found it okay to kill, and don't think hanging out behind bars with other criminals for 10 years is nearly enough to protect further innocence.
     
  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I am of the social democratic variety.
     
  9. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Socialize=medicine,law,education--the rest capitalism.Altho I'm begining to believe the oil industry should be nationalized ,the way they jerk us around whenever they feel like it.
     
  10. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    moderate libertarian.
     
  11. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Vamp

    The problem is that some people that come here claim things that are at odds with the views they have and do express.

    Sometimes this is down to self delusion but at other times there does seem to be an element of dishonesty were people are claiming an impartiality that in fact doesn’t exist.

    For example there is someone here claiming to be a ‘moderate libertarian’ when he’s a free market right winger, and I’m left wonder what he means by ‘moderate’ since right wing libertarianism is general seen as a far right dogma.

    Another claims to be against murder when she would if she could condemn millions to death in a mad social Darwinist experiment, and who claims an impartiality that since most of her stances are of the right doesn’t seem to exist (social Darwinism being a philosophy of the right)

    What I’m saying Vamp is that it might be better to make up your own mind over the political stance of another here from what they say in debate rather than accepting the replies they give to this question.
     
  12. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Do you really live in such a dystopian, poverty stricken world in your own head that being for a free market makes people far right?

    I guess by your own logic you're far left enough to be a Maoist then.
     
  13. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I don't think I can be labelled. I think for myself. For instance, I am opposed to capital punishment. I am for drug legalization. I am against late-term abortion. I am for legalization of prostitution. I am against affirmative action. I am in favor of online gambling. I am against ownership of assault weapons. I am in favor of civil unions, but against gay marriage.
     
  14. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    Oh God, the stuttering fish is back...

    That would be me. Which just goes to show, the guy has NO clue what he's stuttering about.
     
  15. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    Right wing libertarian doesn't even make sense as a label, which suggests you are not really doing much listening. Moderate means I am not dogmatic.
     
  16. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Good call. I've never encountered a right-winger who wanted to legalize marijuana, like the libertarians do.
     
  17. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Well if you hadn't listed your age with the user name you chose I would be able to pinpoint your age and level of education.
     
  18. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    .....anyhoo, I guess these are some of the deciding factors.

    I'm against war and want to decriminalize all drugs, anti death penalty but pro choice as far as abortion and gay marriage. I want less government intrusion in all things and more personal responsibility instead. Balance is key to everything, so moderation in all things would be the ideal. But also, I believe in being passionate in regards to standing for what you know is right. Moderation does not ALWAYS work the best. It's easy to be moderate and get stepped all over... So. Someone else put a label on it....
     
  19. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    realistic libertarian
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am a US citizen. I work I expect the efforts of my work to be respected. I don't believe Wall St. has my best interests at heart. I think they are greedy crooks seeking to siphon off this nation's wealth. What does that make me?
     

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