- Questioning The State Of Dying -

Do any other people here wonder at what death will be like? Not how you will die but what will occur during your exit from your bodily host? Because maybe I am strage for wondering at it so often, I dont feel like it's an obsession but it's something that I do think about at least once a day, and honestly, I am more excited about that one moment than I am about any potential happening's in my own current life.
If any of you are Yes fan's here, in particular the song Ritual, the minor death of the drum and bass in the middle (ego death) as compared with the last few moments of the song, the confusion and bewilderment at the actual physical death of the body and mind sums it all up through music pretty well
But still I wonder...

 

I always wonder what death will be like, the thought always seems so beautiful to me. Since very young, the thought always crept inside my mind and whenever I talked to it, to my mom, to my friends in school, everybody just thought I was being morbid. I never understood why, I think birth and death are the most fascinating things in life. I'm more inclined towards death though.
I have no concrete thoughts on what it's like, because I always imagine it in a different way, but I'm very puzzled by it and does it sounds weird if I say I'm looking forward to it? Maybe, but we are born so we can die.

 

On acid I had this really vivid hallucination, out of body experience sort of, I didn't have leaving sensation like typical OBE, but there definitely was not a physical body, there was an astral body though. Anyways, I was essentially flying around in the Merkaba in space. With a bunch of other souls flying around in space and we were just like, chilling and exploring space. It was really playful. I hoped thats what death was cause it was awesome. Really, that was one of my big difficulties of acid. Deep down, I really wanted to stay there permanently.

It's a peculiar subject though because when you get right down to it. No one has really come back from death to truly explain what it is. Yah, lots of people have had very convincing views and experiences of death. But inherently, there soul was still tied to their body, they still had a connection to the body. You know like in astral travel, theres always the silver chord that connects you back to the body. No one who has disconnected that chord has really come back and explained what it is. People have sat right on the very edge, contemplating it and explaining what you must do to sit comfortably on the edge. But anyone who fell off, they fell off.

Now with that in mind. My experience on acid. I always think. Is that the product of me going to the land of death in relation to the context of a body? Therefore I was manifesting an astral body because I still had a tie to physical body. Or do we genuinely and inherently have an astral body? Because I think death might just be, a permanent remergence back into the single source and that all of your astral bodies and NDE's don't have anything to do with real death. There just more tools to aid us in living. So I may not be able to fly around in space for eternity with those friends, but, being one with all sounds nice too.

 

Being One I believe is the real death. But until we are perfect, karmaless beings, I'll take my Steve Howe solo backed flights through the wonderous colorful astral universes

 

But on a serious note, it's going to hurt like HELL when we do die, of that I am very certain. The pain I've felt on mushrooms, when I thought I ate poisoned mushrooms and thought I was on my way out, was so next to unbearably painful that I cant imagine the final seperation. It felt like pins and needles, but with real needles, and being electrocuted, also what i imagine bleeding to death would feel like, throughout my whole body. That WARNING! WARNING! kind of stuff was gong down and it was worse than having my lungs collapse. Worse than the worst of the worst stomach viruses and flus, worse than alcohol poisoning, worse than anything I can imagine living through. I wonder? How long, during the final release, does the pain go on? Becuase I also imagine a purification process to negate karmic debt!

 

I would say, all of life is the purification process. I think the moment I finally sense 'time to die' truly and genuinely down to my heart stop beating, that from then on it will just be a more and more growing bliss.

I still think in terms of, causality is a myth, everything is 100% associative. I will die because I genuinely want to die at the time. The two will coincide perfectly. If there is pain, I will force my way through it like it's my new purpose and hobby in life.

Of course though... what if "the one" is just a new being. A new consciousness, in a new world.

 

To me, Death has always seemed so peaceful. No matter the circumstances of a death I feel like at a certain point, you just calm down and leave the body. I feel like any pain you would have dying would be the struggle before calming down. Once your calm I think that there probably isn't even much pain just a transition.

 

I agree, I think the pain is caused by holding on.

 

I agree, I mean what is pain? It takes a body to feel pain, obviously when the body shuts down, there is no more 'physical' pain.

BUT! Like my man ry says, life is the purification process. But ry, most likely less than 5% of the population at any given generation actually becomes purified during a life.
What I meant by purification, and I dont mean to interfere with other's beliefs here because we are all going to have our own, but the way I see it is that there are severl layers of the astral and eventual heavenly planes, just like there are multiple layers of physical reality. In order to progree, you must learn how to deal with where you are. So I think for those of us who need to be reincarnated, we first go through what every religion in the world conceives of as Hell, where our harboured negative intentions come out in front of us to deal with, also known as, purification. From that point on, I think we start ascending the planes of heaven, first through the astral realms, up into the plane where God will manifest in however we have come to conceive of Him (Im going to stop there lol) and we chill, learn some, go back to the astral plane, and according to the cosmos and karma, we are brought back into existance during the conception of a man and a woman intercourse, only to try again. But the next time, we are closer to where we need to be.
For those of us who are finished the game of rounds of death and rebirth, well I dont know.
But this is why the Tibetan Book of The Dead gives prayers for the desceased, so that their astral body can 'let go' from attachment to those left behind and move on in confidence.
I dont know, just my thoughts on the matter. -

 

Well, they say there's no atheists in a fox hole lol. I guess that's when those of us who ignored the bigger picture might finally take the helping hand God has offered since the dawn of creation? Or maybe not, everyone has their own way of viewing reality, and dealing with pain.

But do you think at the moment the body shuts down, its all peaches and cream from then on? Or do you think there is more to be learned? And like they also say, no pain, no gain. -

 

Maybe it will be like the big shot of Fentanyl in the Sky! Or it may be like the perpetual magic mushroom trip. Im cool with both really

 

I dont think is all peaches and cream, of course not. I think there is struggle and resolution and the transition starts when we are able to let go and accept.
I guess death could be like being born into another dimension of reality, being born is painful too, but the pain quickly falls into the background.

 

When you guy's imagine it, do you imagine it to be like, overwhelming and confusing? Or do you think it will make perfect sense? After all it's only natural. But still...

 

ive thought about it a lot lately as ive realized my life is at best half over..

my conclusion pondering it all with all the years knowledge on the subject ive acquired is,

i have no idea whats next,and i feel it would be foolish to believe any one thing pertaining to death and there after..

should be interesting to find out,,or not..

 

what happens when i die depends on how i live my life. the choices that i make in life define who i am. if i come out of this life after living it in the same way that i have so many lives before this one i will regrettably have to live a life very much like this one all over again. my goal in this life is to advance who i am far enough that i go to a better place after i die again. i am not afraid of death, i actually look forward to it in some way but i hope that it doesnt come anytime soon as i feel like i have more to learn and accomplish yet.

 

To say "this is how it is, love it or leave it (haha)" would be very foolish. But I think we can play around with the idea a litle for fun!
I guess what I REALLY believe is that there will be an extension of a learning process, and that's really all I can claim to believe with all of my heart.
But your right Bill no one can know.

 

What if it's an eternity of 25+ minute Yes songs? Heaven, or Hell for you Bill? hahaha

 

well i wouldnt wanna call anyone else foolish for there beliefs. i shoulda said foolish for me..

all these religions,faiths,, beliefs,there nothing new,they have been around for ages because some people need something to believe in to deal with the fact that one day they are going to die.

sadly every religion has been used to control those same people who are just trying to cope with a fear in there head...

im not one to say whats right or wrong,,i just dont buy into it all...

 

Admission to heaven is free. You just have to ask.
I don't post on forums much, but to whoever said no one comes back to tell us... many are fakes. But I know a real one a close friend He was medically dead for quite a while the exact length I caint exactly remember. CPR and breather, Stopped and waited, nothing. Then he woke up, you could see in his eyes from that day on he had seen God. There isn't one last person he met that he didn't share his savior with. He was diagnosed with terminal cancer around a year ago, and died last weekend. He always said he was ready to go back, he just couldn't imagine the thought of leaving his wife behind.

 

I thought I had died in a way last weekend. I was one 4 hits of a different batch of white on whites and I sort of pulled myself out of my body into such a nice place that I felt was so entirely different from normal reality that it was something completely different. I was just a part of a very very ancient energy

Not really dying, but something somewhat similar