Questions for you Psychonauts out there..

I would like to here how your psychedelic experiences have effected your views on what happens to you when you die,

also do you feel more spiritual because of psychedelics than what you were before you tried them?

Do you relate to any of the existing religions or do you have your own unique ideas through your experiences and how serious do you take your psychedelic experiences when it comes to shaping your views of the mystical ?

 

My basic view is that

 

These are kind of difficult questions for me to answer but I'd like to try anyway.

Honestly, I'm still unsure. For some reason, this isn't a topic that comes up frequently in my trips or in sober life. I guess I do my best to live in the moment at all times. Not that I'm avoiding the issue, I am well aware that it's going to happen some day, I guess I just figure I'll deal with it (or not lol) when the time comes. I have a vague belief based on the fact that energy can't be destroyed so it has to go somewhere once it leaves your body, but I have no idea what happens to it after that. A million options, I suppose. Whether my energy is meant to go back and recycle out into the roots of a tree, or into a decaying pile of dog poo, then so be it

I guess I have expanded my awareness of another aspect of being or dimension aside from this tangible life, but I don't go by the books or anything. This is an area where my ideas and beliefs are still developing. Psychedelics have certainly renewed my interest and awareness in this area but I don't have any concrete theories just yet. I may never, and that's OK too.

There's no one organized religion I relate to 100%. There are bits and pieces of each that I'm aware of that I agree with but I'm not well-studied in any religion so I can't really say what I take from each sect. Mostly, it's just my own ideas and philosophies of living the best life you can, doing the most good you can, harming none, etc etc... I definitely believe psyches help to open a portion of my mind that remains closed in sober hours, which puts me in a state where I'm able to more easily reflect on these type of things if I choose, but I don't think psyches are the end all, be all "magic key" to exploring those areas of thought.

 

Personally I don't classify psychedelics as drugs (technically you can't deny they aren't) but rather a pathway to be alive and dead at the same time.

I was just gonna make a thread about this!

After having full ego death experiences, I could say I am fully sure that "you" will not exist anymore, but rather you will return as one with the whole to this mysterious universe that we as biological organisms can't fully comprehend, just like how a mouse would not be able to comprehend the beauty of mozart. Currently we are like the mouse with the soundwaves of the music (unknown) bouncing off of our ears, totally oblivious to it because we are not evolved enough to understand it.

Once you return to this state, you are not aware of it or anything. It simply is

Life is like a blip in the screen, after all it was accidental and anyone who claims it can't be accidental has simply not studied this subject enough or refuses to acknowledge that.

 

I don't think psychedelics have really changed my view on death at all and I've done a lot of them. The most likely scenario is when you die that's it, lights out. Though we can't know for sure until we do in fact die.

 

Psychedelics have indeed made me more spirtual. Im more receptive to the ideas of energies and abstract forces influencing reality and the universe. That being said I don't find it bringing me closer to one particular religion, perhaps its due to some incessant need of mine to somewhat rely on someone more studied in a particular religion than I which is why it fails. But I've tried to be open to christanity, paganism, and Buddhism and I've felt let down or something not agreeing with me in regards to those lifestyles. Scientology here I come ! LOL
But I have worked on meditation and rhythmic drumming a bit, playing the guitar can also induce a similar degree of trance occasionally for me with the aid of psychedelics.

I do think psychedelics certainly have shown me an ineffable quality in regards to the dying process I'm hesitant to say they have shown me anything about an after life.

 

1. It made me know what its like to die. I will be less scared when it happens and more prepared. I am still very scared of death
2. Not more spiritual at all, just more enlightened. I have different views now. (some people call this drug induced psychosis)
3. I still believe in jesus and god. But I think there are other things too. More than just demons and angels and ghosts.

 

Psychedelic use has put me in direct touch with my spirituality. I was a stone-cold atheist for many decades until I found my main ally/sacrament, N,N,DMT.

One year ago I would have told you I was 100% certain that at death the individual consciousness/self completely dissolves and joins (for lack of a better term and due to my desire to keep this concise) the All-One.

These days I'm less sure. One thing psychedelics have made me directly aware of is how much humans (and I in particular) identify with our bodies. Dissociate from or loose sense of your body and the ego/self looses its' anchor . . . .

Some really crappy things happened to me a long time ago. I think about death A LOT. It comes up in almost every single psychedelic experience I have. I feel that psychedelic use, DMT use in particular, is great "practice" for death.

One thing psychedelic use has been teaching me recently is that it does NOT matter if we (our consciousness) just ends when we die or if there is some continuance in some way. It does not matter because I cannot affect it. Whatever it is, on this side of things (life) it is completely unknowable. It just IS. Psychedelic use has crumbled all of my resistances, it has laid all of my fears wide open for vivesection-like examination. I SURRENDER!

It doesn't matter, because even best case scenario, as far as I can see, whatever of our soul/essence continues after the death of the physical entails, it is nothing like this linear experience of our blessed, conscious lives. What matters is to understand exactly what my signature says. To understand that our lives are limited and every breath of every day is an exquisite blessing. Relish every second.

It has taught me about the ultimate acceptance. Christians often say something like, "Blessed be the will of the Lord" in trying to find acceptance in their lives. I have been feeling something deeply similar lately. Come what may, I am blessed, I am thankful and I accept. When it is my time, it is my time. It has been a very interesting ride. I hope that when the ultimate test comes, tripping or not, I can go out accepting, loving and smiling.

Thank you DMT. Thank you psychedelics.

 

it has all taught me how beautiful our last breath is. the one that weighs so heavy and hurts so hard that the only natural responce is total abandon... *release* to know again breath unbounded and pure.

 

Mine is a kind of mixture between what sweet blasphemy and spicey cat said. I would like to think my soul(energy,spirit,whatever) will not just fade away and die with my body, something else will happen, as far as i am concerned it could be anything, but i can't control it, or at least i don't think i will be able to. So its just going to happen one way or another, no sense fighting it or worrying about it to much, i'll find out probably sooner then i want to.

Yes, much more.

No not really, but in terms of religion the older the better IMO, if i had to pick one it would be buddhism, and not as a religion, more of a way of life.

With all these questions i would like to point out what i believe to be the best affect psychedelics have had on me.

To me this is all meaningless, these questions(No offense should be taken OP) anyway. It doesn't matter what you think or believe because one day we will either be shown that life is so much more than our physical form or it will just simply end. Either way its gonna happen, so why waste time pondering it, just enjoy what you can while you can and leave the things you can't control up to whomever/whatever controls them.

Spicey cat said it much better than me.

 

I used to think it was life, death, and lights out, "I" no longer exisits. But since i've taken psychedelics i realized that not only is god possible but every single one of us is god itself. it's almost scary how true it is. But we're all just incarnations.

i do believe that there is more to death then just "lights out." As far as religion i don't really like organized religion and i never have. I'm pretty sure most of it is just a waste of time, all i can say is that almost all religions are right and all religions are wrong.

 

psychedelics haven't effected my view on what happens when I die so much as made me realize death isn't as important as I once thought. It is all part of a cycle and death is one small yet culminating part. Things blink in and out of existence all the time and psychedelics made me realize this.

in a way yes and in a way no. Thats something I'm still trying to figure out. They've made me realize that as humans are very large to small particles, we are small particles to something larger than us. I'm still trying to determine whether to approach that from a scientific or spiritual point of view or both.

I don't relate to any religion at all. I like, respect, and am curious about aspects of all religions, but i don't relate enough to consider them seriously.

I think psychedelics certainly act as doors. Doors to what? Its hard to say.

cool thread

 

can you explain that anymore?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particles

 

the effected them ~85%. yes i do. i do not relate to any of the existing religions, as of now.

 

how's that apply?

 

I phrased that wrong.

Virtual particles are fascinating, but its not really what i meant.

I was just referring to the way I view life. We think our lifespan is so long but from our birth to our death is a blink, relatively.

 

Yah like many bugs only live hours, rats/mice only live a few years, cats/dogs live less than 2 decades, chimps about 40 years, dolphins about 50, elephants 60-70, we got about 80. Very few aminals live past a few years let alone past half a century. Death/birth process is incredibly quickly paced for most species.

 

on the other hand, somthing like the sun lives for billions of years....

 

my psychedelic experiences have effected my beliefs. i sometimes view the things i encounter during my experiences as being a look into learning about the nature of life.

this reminds me of the peak of my second lsd trip.

i was confronted by the grim reaper. this experience was more real than any hallucination i have ever had in my life. there, as clear as day, the grim reaper was standing infront of me. i can't explain the pure terror, the fear, the joy, and the pure bliss that i felt. this confrontation continued until i finally surrendered.

i still am forming my views though. there are so many schools of thought about spirituality, but in truth i am begginning to realise more and more how they all deal with the same fundamental concepts and archetypes but are just explained through different terminology and methods.

another was my second salvia experience.

i transcended this reality entirely, to find out that our world, everything that we percieve as reality, is simply an underlying layer or inner working of a higher level of existence. you can imagine my shock when i found out that everything that is, is simply a speck of dust within a much greater existence.

although, i think that what i took away from that the most was that we can only really percieve in the current reality until our life ends. so rather than worrying about what is beyond our perception, it is best to worry about what is within our perception. what we can understand from our finite perspectives here. in order to love, and to be a better human.