Questions on Islamism

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Salsabil3, Mar 16, 2007.

  1. Salsabil3

    Salsabil3 Member

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    #1: What type of government does Islamism talk about, I know a Islamic Republic but in detail what is it i.e. Democracy , Socialism...


    #2: Can my political ideology be Islamism and something else?
     
  2. paintballer687

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    It's called Islam, not Islamism, that's like calling Judaism Judaismism. Islamic countries are governed by the Shari'ah; try researching it but please only use credible information i.e. from a university or scholarly research paper or any website ending in .edu.
     
  3. Salsabil3

    Salsabil3 Member

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    Yeah but Islamism is the political ideologie of Islam.
     
  4. Phrensied Rabbits

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    Assalamu Alaikom

    Well, there's never really been a fulfillment of the ideal muslim country, so who knows what it would look like?
    Probably a socialistic system. Personally, I don't see how you can have a religious society that's not based on communism. But seriously,we all know human beings,no matter how determined,will never see that happen. So, I'm thinking it would turn out... something like canada.

    I'm not exactly sure what your second question means, but I don't see that Islam could be classified as one political ideology, there being such various schools on what the ideal muslim political system would be. Like I said, it hasn't popped up yet. Society is society, dude.Not everybody who is muslim agrees about everything. You can't exactly treat it like a precisely tuned instrument. One could be a muslim and adhere to any political system imaginable. Some systems might clash and not necessarily result in a GOOD muslim, but that's the human element involved in the choice.

    Maybe I'm rambling about something that has nothing to do with your point; if so,it's only because I couldn't decipher what that point was.
    Good luck with what you're trying to figure out.

    Have a grouvai day,
    ~Kharmi
     
  5. Rayan

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    Hi

    The below is what i've learned through my understanding, but please don't go by it without getting it confirmed. Of course, this isn't always how it works - but heres the theory for three elements: The Government, The Economy and The Law.

    The Government
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    The Islamic Political system is goverened by the most knowledgable member of society. Each society elects its most knowledgable scholar and then the scholars nominate the most knowledgable of them and so on, until one most knowledgeable is determined to be the 'governer' of that country.

    The Economy
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    Taxes are not charged on income being earned but income being accumulated. For example, if your earning enough money to survive without any being left over you are not charged tax. So, you as a single man (or woman) with rent and bills and food and entertainment to pay might come up to £100 per week - and if thats how much you earn per week then you dont pay tax. If however, ur weekly expenditure comes up to £100 per week and you earn £150 - meaning each week your accumulating £50, then you are taxed on this money. If you have valuable items you have not utlised in over a year, you must pay 10% of its value to charity
    Earning from Tax are given directly to those who are earning less than their required amount to survive within your local community.

    Every national holiday e.g. Eid, everyone must pay a tax according to their income / means. with this money you must first ensure that you and your family have food, shelter and clothing. It is then your responsibility to ensure that your immediate neighbours have the same, and then their neighbours and so on until your money goes to a needy person / family.

    On being given a loan, interest cannot be charged. If repayments are not met as agreed with the lender than the lendee (is that a word!?) must work for the lender in his trade to indirectly repay the money, so that the debt does not become overwhelming.

    Law Keeping
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    All crimes are punishable regardless of reasons, but the punishments vary according to circumstances. Capital punishment is only used if the comitter did the crime at the victimisation of someone else out of un-contested selfishness. For example, stealing bread because you are starving and unable to pay for food is punishable but you wouldn't get your hands cut off. Stealing bread purely because you had the chance to and you 'could' is punishable by capital law.
     
  6. Ali_bin_Abi_Talib

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    I just wanted to say that an Islamic system used to be in existence, its called the Caliphate. There has actually always been a Caliphate until the end of WW1 when the Ottoman Empire was dissolved. Thats why we have so many problems with terrorism. Everyone wants the Caliphate back but the west keeps preventing it. Islam does not split into the "religious" aspect and the "governing" aspect. They are one and the same. Now, some non practicing or modernist muslims might say "oooh, I just want to pray and fast, I don't want to live in an Islamic government" but these people have a problem with understanding.


    Also, if the Caliphate was still in existance, 9/11, 7/7, madrid and most other terror attacks would not of happened because the caliphate would of kept these people in check (one of the first groups of muslims osama said deserved to die were the Scholars of Islam, so just imagine what he would say about a Caliph.)
     
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