Men are allowed to rely on women for sex but women aren't allowed to rely on men for money. Instead we're called gold diggers. Men evolved to be visual and seek out a variety of fertile-looking women. Women evolved to seek out men with resources. People understand that men are designed to spread the seed and be totally shallow. But they don't understand that women are designed to be shallow also, just in a different way. When it comes to the ideal mate, women are forced to use tame terms like "ambitious" and "financially stable." They are harassed into being independent and supporting themselves. Men still use loaded words like "beautiful" and "hot". They aren't forced out of it and into tame terms like "attractive" and "presentable." In fact, I have a cousin who said he wants to marry a girl who looks like she could be in a video. I said "those are camera angles" to which he said "yeah but they really look like that though." A woman can't say she wants to marry a man who could be on The Apprentice. That called being a gold digger, a whore, a chickenhead, a ho, mean, shallow, and bitchy. I hate women because I feel like they're easily molded and led. They're followers, conformists, con jobs. They don't think things through; they don't question. They're just sweet little innocent schoolgirls. I seek out sex, but if I'm gonna put out a guy has to show me a good time. He has to pick me up, buy me dinner, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, maybe get some weed, get a movie or music or something to do, and he has to have a nice clean apartment. Granted, sometimes I act independently. Last week I loaned one of my sexual partners $30 and spent $40 on drinks and smokes. (Of course he has done a lot for me. He used to pay my cell phone bill, by drinks and smokes, cook three meals a day for weeks, pay my cab fare, bought me a dress and shoes, etc.) I have another fuck buddy and we're dutch. I buy my own alcohol and cigarettes and I go to his house myself. So I don't completely mind this. But this double standard still pisses me off to no end. Right now I have an open relationship with a great guy. I like him for him, inside and out. But if he were unemployed and rode the bus I wouldn't be with him. He pays for all the dates, he wants to take me to the beach, he picks me up from my doctor's appointments and takes me home, etc. I don't believe in independence. I believe that if men are allowed to rely on women for sex and beauty not to mention reproduction, child rearing, and often housework, women should rely on men for money. Otherwise men are useless!
Part II I notice this double standard all the time, like in the media. Rap is a heavily male-dominated industry and rappers often ask in their songs if the women in their lives would be with them if they worked at McDonald's. But they would not be with women who weighed 300 pounds or were 65 years old. "Baby if this is so, yo, can I get a fuck you" -Jay Z They're allowed to look at logistical elements in a woman if not be completely shallow but if a woman does the same she's a gold digger. Example: remember the show Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire? Darva Conger was dragged through the mud for wanting to marry a wealthy man, but Rick Rockwell was left alone even though he wanted to marry a woman who looks good in a bikini. Example: Anna Nicole Smith was put on trial for marrying an 80 year old man and had to insist she loved who he was on the inside. No one wondered what an 80 year old man thought he had in common with a 25 year old woman. He obviously married her for her boobs. But that's seen as natural. Men are never called names. They're always just men. Example: There's a stupid show on these days called Find My Prince or something. Men pose as waiters and other menial things when they're actually princes of various countries. But all the women he seek out are skinny blondes. Even the Indian princes want skinny blondes. They never have intellectual conversations or anything, just stupid small talk. Example: Remember the Eddie Murphy movie Coming to America? Eddie Murphy plays Prince Hakim of Zumunda and gets a job working a McDonald's because he wants to find a woman who will love him for him. But the woman he falls in love with is a skinny biracial girl. Why not marry a librarian with glasses? I'm so pissed.
Sam, To Some = Harsh To Enlightened = Nice Observation (As for Anna Nicole Smith = I'm sure I remember a quote from Mr Marshall when asked about "You know she don't love you and you know what's she's after?" His response was - "I'd refute that, though even it be true, we are both getting out of life that which we desire - what's wrong with that?" = Pretty wise Words from the octogenarian) I like the idea of interaction (both physically and mentally) of that of a younger (mind-set) female - the Price for which ... "is what it is" - methinks Women are going to be tarred with the brush of criticism when trying to look after themselves whilst Men do get away with it - such is the "Worldwide" Hypocrisy it seems - though there are those who get and accept that Equality should be, as is states = for all
You complain women are labelled goldiggers, but then say if you have to 'put out' he should have money If you are going to do that, just restricts you to guys that will put up with it So just keep at it.and leave the hot guys for us
For the most part I get your post, and agree about the stigma and such But then I decided you're just no good at being a woman
I simply don't understand your problem Sam. When I was younger I had beautiful young women eager to take me out, feed me, f--k me, and follow me anywhere. They treated me like a king, sometimes five or six at once. I knew what they wanted and saw to it that they got it to the best of my ability and the majority of them are close friends to this day 35 years later. Of course the fact that I had the best and the most sweet smoke in the Haight Ashbury and most of San Francisco and treated my friends as family money or not didn't hurt. lol
I get your point chicka, and I can see where you get these thoughts from. Much main stream media is, by definition shallow and unsensitive. You gotta swim abit outta the main stream pond to find cats like me and my wife who are both anything but mainstream. Good thinking though to a certain extent. There's always light at the end of any tunnel. Peace n' love Indy Hippy
Ive never had a girl love me for money, I have none.. I do however have a nice penis and love to eat pussy..
I'm the same. No-one could be accused of being a gold digger as far as I'm concerned. However, most of the women I've been with have been of reasonably comfortable incomes, although this has never been my incentive for being with them, and the nearest I've come to accepting any financial reward was when a woman from L.A., who I met on PalTalk, despite my initial refusals, insisted on paying my way to stay with her in L.A. Before I knew it, the tickets had arrived in the post. I suspect that when the man doesn't have the means to be the primary financial provider, then it gives the woman a certain edge being the dominant party which, as well as offering a certain degree of security, can also provide her with a level of sexual arousal from being in a position where she 'owns' the man.
Maybe if you stop thinking about how you can USE someone and how they use you, you'd start having real relationships that aren't glorified prostitution transactions.
^I wouldn't go that far. Okay maybe I would... But it does seem like you (OP) are only perpetuating the whole deal by requiring a date to be financially stable enough to blow money at whim. Also, if you were REALLY evolved to be attracted to men that could provide, you would probably be more aware of fiscal responsibility and where the money is coming from - understanding the risks and warrants of actions bound by these things. I think that men AND women both evolved based on looks. Women are more keen emotionally, and have developed the ability to obtain resources using men's dog personality.....really the scene is much more complicated - as at this point I think we have evolved more gender roles, than as sexual entities. I should start a rant reversing this. Complaining that women could put out based only on looks, and get laid. But when men only put out for money - NOTHING! Only chiseled guys that smell like magazine inserts.
men have to rely on women for sex. women can earn their own money, but men can't have legitimate sex with themselves. more importantly, eddie murphy's character did not work for mcdonalds in coming to america. he worked for mcdowell's.
So says the married guy. And if we came and visited you in your home we wouldnt find it full of crap the wife has spent money on, little pictures of flowers everywhere, gay ass drapes and bedspreads, the dorky safe car you were told to buy and the interest payments on that, then theres the big one the mortgage and cost of the house 2-3 times bigger than you need. Thousands on a house full of crap, tens of thousands extra in interest payments per year, a million extra over a few decades. And you going to lecture.someone else.about glorified prostitution transactions? Puh-lease!
OP, I agree with a lot of what you've written, but in another direction. I "hate" women *I'm thinking of myself, actually*, because we make too many compromises. I'll explain. I work and make more money than most men I've ever fucked, including my husband, whose income isn't as good as mine. I have a fantastic life I pay for myself. I think that's what women should do. Make your own money, pay for your own fun. I have enough money to never worry about it and it feels great. Nobody forces a woman to have children and to be a house servant. I'm not. I don't do more in my house than my husband does. I also didn't wanna have children. I find children irritating and I wish they'd never come within a ten miles radius of my person. Same with dogs. People find me weird. They can go fuck a cactus, for all I care. And yet, I made too many compromises! I've given sexual pleasure to my husband for almost two decades, with barely any reciprocation. So, with all my money and education, I still behaved like a fucking woman. I'm a disgrace. I've recently changed that, but I still make compromises. So, what I wish is that women become independent financially and intellectually, but also sexually. Why do we ever let a man have an orgasm if we're not having one? If the man doesn't cater for our pleasure, stop the act in the middle of it, before he cums and turn to the side to sleep. Isn't that what they do? Women should learn not to mix loving a man with forgiving him for poor sexual performance. It isn't financial dependence what makes women stupid. It is this pathetic thing called love.
I was just having a bad day when I wrote this. I agree that women should make their own money and not rely on men for money. They should fuck based on other considerations.:mickey:
I agree with this view. I'll add to it that I think the only things that matter on the job, is your professional experience, your attitude, your professional skill sets, and emotional intelligence. Superficial things like looks, and beauty only matter if you're a celebrity or have some other highly public image job. Sex should just stay out of workplaces period, but realistically it doesn't, but it is the ideal. I for one would think workplace drama having a veil of separation, between the home/personal sex life would be a good thing in the long term. Say there was a professional disagreement at work with your partner, do you really want that having a possibility of carrying over into your personal life in the form of sex-denial? (which is a potential possibility, and has probably happened to some couple statistically speaking)