Sacred Numbers

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  1. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Anyone have interesting info on Sacred Numbers?

    Thanx, k
     
    Kharakov, Dec 18, 2004
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  5. Disarm

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    isnt everything supposed to link back to the number 0.625 in paganism? something to do with venus and the star cycles..
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I have a lot of stuff on sacred numbers around here somewhere....


    .618034.... is the Golden Section

    There were 625 Roman feet in a Greek stade, which was 1/10 of a minute of latitude or or 600th of a degree.

    The orbit of Venus appears to scribe the shape of a pentagon (five pointed star or pentacle) in the heavens as seen from the Earth. The pentagon is the figure that most registers the Golden Section or Phi.
    The pentagram was the symbol of the Pythragrian school and is a symbol of the Mysteries, 5 is a hermetic number. 5 represents the human body.
    A square drawn on the height of a pentagon with the value of 1 has an area of 2.368. 2368 is the number of the crucified man in the Greek language. The square is placed over the star and the horizontal line of the star divides the square into two rectangles. The upper rectangle has an area of 888, the number of Jesus (in Greek), and the lower 1480, the number of Christ (Greek). Their sum is 2368, the number of Jesus Christ (in Greek). So, this is 1,00 times the number of the square of the height of a pentagon of 1 unit.

    This is a universal truth.

    (Sorry I can't figure out how to type Greek letters on my keyboard)

    Want any more?
     
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  9. Disarm

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    knew it had a 6 in it! :p
     
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  11. Disarm

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    how did they get the numbers of the words jesus christ? holy crap...
     
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  13. the dauer

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    All numerology is just about knowing the system so you can make the numbers point in your favor and back up what you want to say. It's good if you're trying to teach yourself that there's a conectedness between certain concepts.

    Dauer
     
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  15. Kharakov

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    Or rounded percentages 62/38.
    I am interested in simple stories/ information on the golden ratio (especially) and other sacred numbers that pop up with regularity. 62 seems to pop up pretty often.
     
    Kharakov, Dec 19, 2004
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    A good source for an explanation of the golden Section might be Sacred Geometry by Robert Lawlor, 1982.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0500810303/ref=sib_rdr_fc/102-4342089-3590543?%5Fencoding=UTF8&p=S001#reader-page

    This is an illustrated workbook about philosophical geometry. Using a compass, straightedge, and graph paper the author takes you through nine exercises that illustrate Scared Geometry. The graph paper is optional and if you can get to a copy of AutoCadd it is really cool.


    • The square cut by its diagonal: Sq Root of 2.
    • The Vesica Piscis : Sq Root of 3.
    • The Sq Root of 5.
    • Alternation.
    • The Golden Proportion.
    “…the Golden Proportion can be considered as supra-rational or transcendent. It is actually the first issue of Oneness, the only possible creative duality within Unity…For this reason the ancients called it ‘golden’, the perfect division…”

    • Gnomonic spirals.
    • Squaring the Circle.
    • Geometry and Music.
    • The Platonic Solids.
    Phi gets so complicated I don't feel like typing in all that stuff about it now. Lawlor goes on for pages.
    I can list other sacred numbers such as the misunderstood 666 if you like.
     
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  19. Kharakov

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    please do. What is the misunderstanding of 666? Do you have a good explanation for it?
     
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  21. geckopelli

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    666 stands for Nero Cesar in ancient hebrew numerology.

    Hence the book of revelations in the bible is actually a political manifesto against the then Roman goverment that ruled the jews. History shows that Jesus was crucified for political reasons.
     
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  23. BlackGuardXIII

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Meagain
    .618034.... is the Golden Section

    Or rounded percentages 62/38. Quote:
    Want any more?
    I am interested in simple stories/ information on the golden ratio (especially) and other sacred numbers that pop up with regularity. 62 seems to pop up pretty often.


    1.6180339
     
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  25. geckopelli

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    Never forget that math is a human language that descibes observed phenomena.
     
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    Okay, I'll try, but what happens if I do forget....the math police come...lol?


    the square root of five plus one divided in half equals the ratio known as the golden section/mean etc. and it is in our fingers, and all around us in all living things....which i find cool.
    thirteen is the sacred number though...........dammit.
     
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  29. Disarm

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    I'm such a sucker for that. I disagree with the idea in full, changing something to numbers and adding words together, I see no point in.
     
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  31. Kharakov

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    The reason I am interested in sacred numbers is that there is an apparant order to the universe. The exactness of the mathematical language could provide us with a fractal map of the tendency of the universe to follow a pattern that produces 'chaos'. There could be a whole new branch of science that exactly describes another level of reality (the tendency of reality to follow pattern on a larger level) beyond the current level that physical science addresses. Maybe some kind of mathematical understanding of higher level orders can be found that works with the current einsteinian model of mass/energy that can predict outcomes that the einsteinian model cannot (because the einsteinian model could be simply an order that arises because of a higher level of organization). A better understanding of fundamental order makes for a better life within the order. I just want to be more aware of it. Numbers call to me on a special level, so I want to find out how they have called to other civilizations and people in the past.

    More sacred numbers please.
     
    Kharakov, Dec 20, 2004
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  33. geckopelli

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    Kharakov,

    You should research crap shooting.

    I'm not kidding!

    There's a field of gambling literature out there, some of which is concerned with numerical frequency patterns in the short, apparently chaotic, term. There are some pretty-far-out-of-the-norm methods of statistical analysis out there. Some wacky, some interesting.
     
    geckopelli, Dec 20, 2004
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  35. BlackGuardXIII

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    'there's lies, damn lies, and then there's statistics.' Disraeli

    That is likely not verbatim, its from memory.

    If you flipped a coin and it came up heads ten times in a row, what would the odds be that it would come up heads the eleventh time?

    50%

    Numbers can be manipulated and presented in such a way as to be very misleading.
     
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  37. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Kharakov,

    6 is the only number that is both the sum and product of its factors, this makes 6 the ‘perfect’ number. 1 + 2 + 3 = 6. 1 x 2 x 3 = 6.
    The Greek word by Gemetria for ‘cosmic order’ has a value of 600.

    Sun’s Dia = 864,000mi (12 x 12 x 12)

    Moon’s Dia.=2160 (6 x 6 x 60)

    Mean Cir of the Earth= 24,883.3 (12 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 1.2)

    Speed of Earth around Sun= 66,600 mph

    Distance btw Earth and Moon 6 x 6 x 660



    666 represents positive solar yang energy, its opposite is 1080 the receptive yin side of nature.

    “A grain of mustard seed” and “the Spirit of the World” are numbered 1746, which is the sum of 666 and 1080.

    1746 is a number of fusion between the two opposite principles in nature.



    666 is worldly and material and stands for the intellect and the rule of authority, 2,448 megalithic yards = 6,660 feet, the Magic Square of the Sun consists of the first 36 numerals, which add up to 666, arranged in a block 6 x 6 so that each line adds up to 111 so that the sum of all lines or columns = 666. The sum of the Roman numerals I, V, X, L, C, and D = 666. The bluestone circle at Stonehenge has an area of 666 megalithic yards and the sarsen circle has a mean dia of 100.8 ft or 1080 square megalithic yards.



    -paraphrased from City of Revelation, John Michell, I think its out of print...about $15.00 on Amazon in paperback. Hardback is $144.00!

    There's a couple pages devoted to 666 as the "number of the beast".


    Gnomonic spirals and Fibonacci sequences are based on the Golden Section and are present in many natural growth systems.
     
    MeAgain, Dec 21, 2004
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  39. TrippinBTM

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    Interesting stuff, Maegin, is that stuff about the golden ration in that book too?


    A question I have it why is 21 the age of reason? And why do we do 21 gun salutes? What is the big deal about 21?
     
    TrippinBTM, Dec 22, 2004
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