its come to this....weve degraded ourselves to the dark ages, we once again, gather around and watch the beheadings...or in this case hangings of others, spread all over the world on the internet...... does this make anyone proud? I mean its not like it was a big accomplishment catching saddam, it was like a tank fighting an ant hill.... I was in a truck stop somwhere in WV and some trucker turns to me holds up the paper with the headlines "saddams dead" merry christmas....... I should be happy at anothers death? canadian news is calling it an american public relations nightmare..... somehow I dont think many americans really think its that bad of a thing.....gloating over the nerd the bully beat up.... my god.......
catch ossama and then I might be a bit impressed.... oh yeah they will never let anyone know that happened....then the never ending war will be over and we'd be forced to go back and think about our lives.
I saw a clip on the fan by Comcast today where they were talking about the controversy of how someone taped the hanging with a cell phone and they showed a small clip of it with Saddam standing there with the rope around his neck and people were yelling insults at him.... It made me feel.... like people are sick and a bit sad really. I dont care WHO it is I don't find it enjoyable or entertaining to sit around and view their death or even a part of their death... There is no way in hell I was gonna go around searching on utube or where ever else for this video
Sad Stuff ain't it...gonna go to the woods tomorrow...do a little prayin', soul cleansing. Gather a up a few old rocks and make a little altar...maybe burn some sweet grass or sage.
Anyone remember how outraged we were at the beginning of the war when the bodies of a few soldiers were publicized. Now we see Saddam's hanging, the bodies of his sons... no one seems to have any respect for anything any longer. I actually think the outrage of the pictures of the dead GIs was just posturing on the part of the Bush administration. Each side trying to out do the other. And neither side any better or more noble. Why should we keep your troops in Iraq to train their security, but where were the advisors during this hateful fiasco. Everyone was notably on vacation and silent.
I see your point, but there's a huge difference between soldiers who died doing their job for the army and Sadam Hussein. It's pretty sick to watch his death, but I feel a bit releived that he's dead. At least that story has come to a close.
I would not have not lost sleep if i had not watched ir or watched it. It was a bit hard to avoid. I'm glad the chap who videod it is being prosecuted.
ok not to open a bag of penuts to fall on the floor...but GIs were "just doing there job" hmm what was saddam doing? he was cruel yes..... he kept his country togther unified ...well as much as possible, even threw hom many years of US imposed sanctions... tell me what was the crime rate...death rate then opposed to now? IM not pro saddam, I didnt think he was a very good guy at all , maybe he got what was coming to him...... my point was he was just doing his job as well....death is death no difference........
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous for even the anti-capitol punishment people I know to think that his MURDER was a good idea. His murder did nothing more than raise news ratings for some bullshit networks and cause more violence around his country, and possibly the world. I don't think he was a good person. Not at all. But we cannot and should not get away with killing another person because they did the same. It's hypocritical.
Why they(soldiers) were performing a mercenary service? does that make their contribution more eligible for respect? This story has not come to a close. It's another example of Bush leading us into expanded conflict because he feels that his administration and the resulting flunky government of Iraq is above criticism. For his death or capture to have lead to any sort of closure his trial and execution should have been performed in a manner above reproach. You can't preach the institution of democracy and fairness, and then break all the rules of common decency and be taken with any credibility.
Lowly guards are being charged with the act of photographing the execution, but in truth attorneys actually filmed it. Again scapegoats are being sacrificed. I for one am glad it was documented, in the manner it took place. It is an embarassment and proof that the new Iraqi government is no better than the one they are trying to replace.
A mercenary service? Our country went to war and those soldiers did their jobs. I meant more specifically Saddam has come to a close. I think it was carried out above reproach, the man is dead. That's ultimate closure. It can't fix the things he did, but he's gone now.
We don't see people as individuals.. I mean I don't know much about the guy but sure he may have been a bad person, maybe even evil. But are we that emotionless that we are happy at his death? And we watch it with pleasure, without even feeling anything? I just find it disgusting. He's suddenly not a human to us because he's foreign or evil or whatever. Killing people is lame and stupid.
How do yo know this to be true ?. I suspect those who are being charged, are the ones who did it [MAYBE THAT IS NO SHIT SHERLOCK]. Whoever did it, are going to be objects of scorn. It fed into a way of thinking that is utterly wrong and deceitful. So am i, but those that took part it the 'filming' are being taken to task. They also do not represent the true nature of the Iraqi goverment. How many reports have you seen about the JOY of his death. The only scene we see is that of Saddams supposed martyrdom. Even if that is only one side of the coin.
Actually it's been reported on most of the major news channels: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2529472,00.html Since they reported that guards were wrongly being accuse a new arrest (and it appear's to be an official of the new government) has been made: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1982377,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1 Does this make you guys feel happier about the whole situation? The behavior I saw was deplorable no matter who filmed it. If that is the way this new government is going to operate I have very little confidence in it as far as to honesty, morality, or professionalism. And the fact that this sort of behavior was allowed to take place gives me no confidence that the actual photographer will ever be prosecuted. Or that this government will ever be held to a higher standard than that of Saddam's which the US government supported at one time.
Says a lot for this "democratically" elected government doesn't it. I wonder if they were trained and advised by the BlackWater guys? The same independent contractors that advised us at Abu Ghraib. And if he actually sold it for a meer $20,000.00 says a lot for the integrity of the current government. Is this what we are sending our young people to die for?
I am saving my outrage for people who are arrested for marajuana posession, our some other petty offenses. People in jail right here at home. There is only so much Oxygen out there. I'm not going to be tricked into focusing on something so far away and distant to real life issues right here at home.
Well you better consider that the same people that got us into this war and have orchestrated it, saw to the privatization of US prisons, and promoted the three strikes laws in order to maintain their cash flow. They not only benefit by the bed/body counts in the prisons, but they have created industries that benefit from the very cheapest form of labor....those incarcerated.
Thanks for the update. Imho it is not how the new goverment wish to operate. That is why they are arresting the people that did do it. We shall see. This is my major issue. Far to much is being read into this. It is being used to attack the new Iraqi goverement, quite unfairly imho.
Those that photographed the event were not responsible for the manner in which it was carried out. Why is the person that documented the event now the villian? Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has taken responsibility for the timing of the execution on one of the holiest Muslim holidays, he should also take responsibility for the manner it was carried out. If there had been no documentation would that have made it better for all of you? His government chose the executioners, they allowed them to behave in less than a respectful manner.
