Satan judges God more evil than himself for using a genocidal flood. Is he right?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by greatest I am, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. greatest I am

    greatest I am Member

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    Satan judges God more evil than himself for using a genocidal flood. Is he right?

    Even Satan would not go that low.

    I am surprised, after some debates on this issue, that so many can justify God using genocide against humans. Some say it is because God created life and can take it with impunity whenever He likes. They do not find it strange that God would create something just to destroy it. Others say that the earth was sick and had to be cleansed. Well, if God the doctor only has death and murder as His cure then He is an inept doctor for sure. Other “valid” justifications have been advanced but to me none have justified God breaking His own laws and killing.

    I admit to being to some extent evil but even at my most depraved, I would see that there would be no profit, in moral terms, in using genocide.
    I postulate that even Satan, at His worst, would draw a line to such a dastardly act.



    God is therefore more evil than Satan.

    Jesus may have clinched the truth of this statement because He said that one need only to think of a sin and we are guilty if it.

    God then as the creator of all evil must take the label as the greatest sinner of all. He certainly tries for this award because scripture tells us that He has surpassed even Satan in evils perpetrated against man.

    He is certainly the highest and lowest God possible.

    Why then do we seem to hate Satan and love God. God has shown a much more cruel nature than Satan.

    You would think that by the standards of the Bible we would cheer on any supernatural entity that might stop God from such cruelty in the future. I wonder if this is how the Satanic cults started. Perhaps we need more of them to protect us from such a cruel God.

    Thank God I do not believe in the flood myth. I do not have to answer my own tough questions.

    Regards

    DL

     
  2. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    goooooooooooooooooooooood point
    satan was never that i know of attributed to even 1 death, not 1 crime except hes said to want to "lead you astray"
    the bible is full of tales of god doing the most despicaple things, destroying all life on earth, wiping out cities, turning people to salt condoning rape murder war slavery

    satan is attributed to 1 thing...saying dont listen to that homicidal maniac
     
  3. greatest I am

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    I know. Christians point a weird picture of God as compared to Satan.

    Hence the question.

    Regards

    DL
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    man. these threads.....

    yes we should all turn our insignificant little backs to the creator of everything. that makes perfect sense.
     
  5. greatest I am

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    If your God is a genocidal maniac then yes, you should turn and quickly.

    Regards
    DL
     
  6. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    god created hell
    and not only that
    he sends almost everything he ever created there forever
    yup...id turn n run

    (ofcourse its the other way around, man created god, or at least the god portrayed by all of mans religions)
     
  7. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    turn where exactly?

    your logic states that God has created all things. which agree with. that being said, exactly where do you think you are going to turn to?
     
  8. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    turn to yourself turn to wisdom turn to inteligent thought...hell turn to your own thoughts for a change...turn to what makes sence not just what your told to believe
    turn to the beauty of life and living it, theres so many placers to turn to if u open your eyes and look, instead of sitting closed minded in a room with abook of lies

    turn to look into a babies eyes and ask yourself how can that baby be doomed to hell simply for existing
     
  9. Hryhorii

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    That is a very Augustinian view. His concept of Hell, sin, and babies was that:

    1) We have the guilt of original sin from Adam
    2) Because sex is a sin, and babies are created in sex, they are imbedded with sin

    That is why the Church came up with limbo, because it seemed too crazy to send unbaptized babies to hell for simply existing.
     
  10. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    they came up with hell 1st to scare you
    into what you wonder?
    ever heard of tything? give a 10th of all?\
    oh but ofcourse its also your duty to save souls (recruite new suckers, increase the income flowing into the vatican which already owns a huge percentage of all the worlds most valuablree traesures)

    booo theres a demon after you now gimme all your money and i'll make him go away

    its a protection racket bigger then even the most ambitios mafia boss ever dreammed of

    and a brilliant 1 because not only do they get away with it, but they dont gotta break knees and laws to do it
    just make up a story and wait for the scared to run
     
  11. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    you forgot all of their political power too.

    it's one thing to condemn churches (business in disguise) but quite another thing to condemn the creator.
     
  12. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    prove the creator isnt just a fabricated story of the church

    if you go see a magician and figure out how he does his tricks do you still think he has magical powers?

    if you know the church is currupt and full of lies why would you trusty theyre teachings to be true
     
  13. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    I agree with SoaringEagle.


    Religion, particularly the Christian Church is one of the biggest scams invented by man.
     
  14. stev90

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    Did you have a recent cell phone conversation with this uh, "creator"???

    What did he tell you?

    Can you give me this creators' cell phone number, I'd like to tell this "creator" to fuck off.
     
  15. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    Ooooh boy, does that feel wrong... I believe he would and gladly, but he would rather play it cool to get us on his side. I mean seriously, what would you do to get people on your side: kill 'em or say "hey man, forget that creep! come hang out with me, no strings attached... maybe you'll let me try a little bit of that soul you've got there..."
    I don't know if these huge natural disasters were really God's doing at all. I'm a firm disbeliever in "GOD'S WILL," favoring instead the "wind 'em up and let them go" theory. Let's not forget that even though the Bible is touted as GOD'S WORD and all that, it was penned by men. Distinguishing what was really God's word from what men interpreted it to be, or what they interpreted to be "right" and "normal" at the time is nigh impossible... which is why I don't try. :)

    Yeah, I think that's a crock. We're forgiven, end of story. I don't think hardly anyone makes it to Hell anymore...

    Wow, you make it seem like we have no choice. That's depressing.

    You know, I actually agree with this. It's how I came to most of my own conclusions, but the difference is, I think God can be included in that belief as well.

    Prove it is. :)


    I love these things... it makes me think... something church doesn't usually encourage you to do for yourself...
     
  16. stev90

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    Religion is absolute bullshit promoted by media-fabricated shamans who espouse their dog mass and jerk off ideology. Christianity and Islam being the among the foremost scams and lies invented by man.
     
  17. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    Holy shit, that was unecessary... Thanks for the respect, man. Those of us who are attempting to argue civilly really appreciate it.
     
  18. stev90

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    Is religion worth arguing civilly?

    How many human beings have been killed because of religion???
     
  19. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    Not God's fault. Not all Christians' fault. Do you condemn all Germans for the Holocaust too? I refuse to answer for a bunch of douchebags who misinterpreted something or read something stupid that "told them" to go slaughter a bunch of "infidels."

    Do you think God enjoys the fact that so many people are killed in his name? Those people horrify me, as do those embarassing fucks that run around telling others what to believe. That's not what I was taught. Jesus himself told us to mind our own damn business...

    So to answer your question, yes. Just because you think it's imaginary and you think you have so much proof or whatnot doesn't mean we're going to believe you. I don't necessarily want to convince you either way. It's just not my problem. It's yours. What you need to do is blame the right people: the psychos that facilitate the holy wars and bullshit that half of them don't believe anyway. Man is capable of great evil all by himself. He just uses religion as his reason sometimes. Again, no one's fault but those who misuse it.

    Think twice before you shit on us next time. Free speech doesn't necessarily mean be a douche about shit just because you don't agree.
     
  20. JDubs

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    Oh god, here we go again with this religion debate....

    Personally, im not really religious, and know jack shit about any of this stuff. But there has to be something about Christianity, Islam, ect. beyond words and fear that kept them surviving all these years.
     

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