Ey Up, How's it hangin? Just a quick question on seeds. When you buy weed, do you find the seeds in the bud??
there are no seeds in the club weed we buy here in cali, for the most part. I saw a bag or two have little ones before, a few months back. If you have any money invested into growlights and whatnot, your better off buying seedstock....... Bagseeds are for throwing out by streams and hoping they make it.L.O.L. I figured out it would take me around five years or more to breed ten strains of my own. And even then they might not be worth a s&%$... I could also buy 9 or ten strains for around 700 bucks, which I make in 5 days working. bogglegum(BOG),taskenti (canna bio gen),akorn (thseeds),swazi skunk (african seeds),grape krush (DJ Short),deep chunk, hill temple skunk (HTSeeds), rez orange apollo,(reservoir seeds) big thunder (RM) is my "current aquisition" list...
I disagree. I think the best seeds for a beginner to start off with are bag seeds from schwag--Mexican commercial. This strain is used by growers in Mex. because it's so hardy. They can survive too much/too little water, nutrients, temp variations etc. And the failure rate for beginners is high, esp. with beginners who don't educate themselves. Better to learn how to grow with free seeds. The buds from schwag won't be as good as the buds from let's say white widow, but the schwag can take abuse that will kill designer strains dead. But the buds you end up with will be WAY better than the pot you got them from. One thing that makes schwag so low-potency is the way it's treated, esp. after harvest. Smashed together to make it smaller (sometimes pressed into bricks), uncured, exposed to high/freezing temps and laying around in a shack for months. But the pot you grow will be better taken care of & processed correctly.
Not for the sake of argument or anything but if you dont get seeds from a breeder you wont know what the plants need. How elce would they know the flowering time or even what theyr plants are suposed to look like or anything elce about the plants caracteristics or strain specific needs? It seems to me that a new grower would do better with seeds from a breader just so theyd know how long to veg for and how long to flower for. Takes the guess work out and makes for more inteligent if not less questions. Nobody wants to hear q's like "are my plants ready?" Know what I meen?
You don't need to consult a breeder. The plant is sexually mature (ready to flower) when the plant exhibits alternating nodes. The plant is ready to harvest when 75% of the bud hairs turn from white/milky to red/brown. Simple huh?
Differant strokes . I would still advise a new grower to start out with seeds that they know what to expect from. 75 percent is relative at a glance especially to a new grower. When a catalog says 45 days flower time it gives you a given and youl know that if you aint there, somethings wrong, without a solid flower time a new grower might fukk somethin elce up and end up with an extended flower time and think its normal. I just think that if you get seeds that you know what theyr susposed to do youl do better. Blessins
What you read on breeder site's re: time in veg, time in flower, and yield--this is 99% b.s. Conditions vary. Lights used and a host of envornmental factors all effect the plant. I have ordered and grown seeds and the description recommended 7 weeks flowering. But they weren't ready at 7 weeks. They were ready at 8.5 weeks. The plant doesn't lie. It's ready when it's ready and it's easy to tell. Back to the point: seeds from commercial pot are for the most part fat and ready to rock. Designer strains--not so much.
Mabey its just me then but I got limitid xperiance with differant strains, mater fact I got no speriance with differant strains. I started out with SugarShack 4 years ago and picked a mom and every clone from her finished in the same way and the same time just like it said in the cataloge. My flowers even look like the one on the picture (but bigger) . Mabey all breaders aint on it like this but Prairie Pride dose ShugarShack so stable that it made things easy for me. This here must be somma that 1% Herb !
Holey Shitt I aint tryin to make a ShugarShack comertial ! I was just tryinna point out that if ya get a stable Herb that dose the same thing everytime youl know how to care for it and if you buy from a breader its likley that someonelce did too and you can share info bout the strain. Didja ever see the old Startrek episode where the li'l big headed people hook up comander Pike? See what happened when the Big head people put the chick back together in the earlier timeframe? They fukkt her up cause they didnt know what she was susposed to look like. Yea.. They made her beautifull with a mental illution but I dont think any beginer growers would be able to pull it off, after all if the Big Headed People from Another Planet where everybodys real smart couldnt get it right how could we expect a beginer grower to?
If you have any money invested in lighting ,ect- why waste your time on bagseed. Spend the money and save years of time. Of course if you never grew a pot plant, by all means use bagseed until you know how to grow a plant. 30 YEARS AGO- ALL THERE WAS WAS BAGSEED.. it all depended on "how good the bag was" If you had thai weed or viet nam black you were growing some nice buds. I always liked the quality of thai , but too much hemaphorditic tendecys for me to mess with at this point in time. If your investing money into lights and electricity it's a real bummer to get hermaphrodites. of the landrace strains i have, 5 out of 6 of them will hermie to a certain degree. the thai being the worse, mexican, michaocan, the oxacan highland gold is definetly my best "bagseed".. it still has a 30 to 35% hermaphroditic tendecy. those seeds stay in storage for another time when I can sift through them for non- hermies.... I have one chocolate columbian, one afghani sativa-both of those creeper phenos, and a peppery smeling indica that looks very much like an afghani/kush genotype. It has taken me two years of sifting through bagseed to find three decent moms.... Do the math. 5 days work at 18 cash an hour will provide enough cash to buy the nine new strains mentioned. Grow some bagseed next to some bought ( carfully selected strains) seedstock and compare them. there is no predicting a bagseed unless you have worked with the strain. bagseeds do best outdoor, it's what they are used to..... Dont buy pissed on dutch genetics, and you'll probly do just fine.
technically speaking, a clone by it's very nature is an EXACT copy of it's host parent, which would explain why they always take the exact time from clone to harvest. it's possible that if you were to start another mom plant of the same variety from the seed bank, there would be diffirences in maturation time, yield, etc. just because a plant is of the same strain doesn't necessarily mean it will inherit the exact same attributes as another. just my 2cents.
