Selective service...

I'm 18 and I've just started filling out applications for student loans...they all say that I need to register with selective service or they will deny me. I am not registering. I am gay for one and I think it's a waste of time for both of us. I also think it is bullshit that I have to. Therefore I am just not going to do it but, I really want to go to college. If they do deny me the loans, is there anything I can do about it? Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

Nik

 

They will deny you, and there's really not much you can do about it aside from getting loans in different places.

 

when u turn 18 every1 has to. My parents and I didnt even no you still had to when i was 18 so i never did, and like 6 months later i got mail saying if i didnt register i'd be arrested, so i did. if you dont register u'll probly get a letter like that too.

 

Gay straight or slightly bent, they gotcha by the short hairs. It may not be right right but its the way they play the game and you're on the playing field whether you like it or not. Good luck, what ever you decide to do.

 

If you object to WAR in all it's forms (and not just the draft) you might be able to fulfill the requirement by registering as a conscientious objector. It's worth looking into at least. I have a healthy strapping 21-year-old little brother who I love to death, so I'm more than a little freaked out about what we'll be hearing this week...

 

There hasn't been a Draft lottery in a long time.
However, looking at the way things are, ya just MIGHT get called.
There's always a Student Deferment if ya get called.
Everybody is right tho. Ain't no getting out of it these days.
I did my thing so I can't be called.

 

They're going to draft women now too, in case you didn't know. But that letter about being arrested is plain bullshit. I say call them on it. What can they even charge you with?

 

Actually, they've been willing to do that for quite some time (just having been advertising it openly). An old friend of mine was discharged from the Air Force for "violating Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell" because while she was training one afternoon, the women in her barracks all got together and read her journal aloud to one another. By the time she got back to her bunk, everyone was laughing about it. Then she was brutally beaten and discharged. Shortly after 9/11 her old CO called her and asked if she'd be interested in joining back up. (And no, thank goodness, she didn't.)

 

You can actually get something like 5 years in prison / $20,000 fine, someone I know waited until they got their 3rd warning letter to sign up, and on that it warned of the penalty and said something like "If you do not sign up within 2 weeks of recieving this letter you WILL be arrested"

And they're not gonna draft women, those were 2 bills in congress that each got 2 votes for them.

 

I had to register four years ago, but since then, my leg was messed up in a car accident, so I no longer qualify to be drafted. I still have my card in my wallet though.

 

Yeah, but what are they going to charge you with? Is there a law on the books saying that you have to sign up for the selective service? They really can't arrest you if there's no crime to charge you with.

 

Hmmm...true about the crime thing but, they can deny me benefits. I guess I will be waiting four weeks to see if my financial aid went through...if not, I will be forced to register with selective service.

 

I never registered. Never heard anything about it.

But yea if you want student loans it's required.

 

Don't be so damn scarred to register. You can always dodge the draft. Of course there are those that would say that you want to borow money from the government but not serve it if called to do so. Kinda shady.

 

Jesus God, there is no fucking draft people. Register, you can object IF the occasion ever arises. Low Intrest student loans are a good thing

 

If you don't want a draft get involved and help to throw out Bush. I was drafted during the Vietnam War and one day ahead of reporting for induction into the U.S. Army and sent to Vietnam to get my head shot off, I raised my hand and became an officer and a gentleman by Act of Congress in the U.S. Navy. As an anti-war JAG officer, I defended people trapped in that pig Lyndon Johnson's unjust war. You must register for the Selective Service at age 18, but the draft has not been in place since the early 1970s, and although Bush wants it, he will never get it in today's environment. However, what Bush has done to the reserves and the National Guard, yanking them repeatedly out of their civilian lives and sending them to Iraq for two or three active duties, is criminal.

 

I'm not "scared" of registering or of being drafted.
You people seem to be missing the point.
It's simply a matter of principal.
The government has no authority under the constitution to require such a thing.
On the other hand you can't borrow other people's money taken by force for low, low, interest rates without doing so.
That's certainly a fair trade off.

 

Exactly. If I wanted to go to college, I wouldn't want student loans anyway. It's so much responsibility to pay it all back. It prevents you from geting educated and doing with it what you please. If you train for something, then you need to get a job doing it to pay back your student loans. That just isn't my idea of freedom or education for education's sake.

And as far as the Selective Service goes, it's pretty telling that they will threaten to arrest people who don't sign up if there's going to be no draft. They want a draft, and they're going to get it. It might have to wait until after the next false-flag :terrorist attack", but they'll get it. Women too, mark my words.

 

If you have to do it to get your loans then I would bite the bullet and do it. My friend just ripped his up and said fuck it, and never got any letters from them.

A draft would not go over well with the American public considering the little amount of support for the war.