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I am sure most of the new testament books were written at least 80 years after Christs death. This is what all the experts say. So none of them ever met Jesus or saw him. Even present day we have a job writing accurate history from 80 years ago. I personally think Jesus lived, but I doubt the true story of his life has been written.

 

Well I can tell you, these are not just my ideas, or my interpretations, they are believed by many Christians based on good evidence. I come here with facts, that are supported by evidence, that I have laid out here for all to see. You simply ignore all evidence presented. You have no research, no explanation, your whole arguement rest on your words, (I THINK). I have shown you the recent sites of descovery, that match the Biblical description. I have shown you the prophecies of the East Gate, which are fulfilled. I have pointed out the pilars which were set up on either side of the Red Sea with the names of Jehovah, Moses, Solomon, all carved in stone. Marking where God split the Red Sea, and between those pilars divers are finding Pharoahs Army. I have shown you the real Mount Sinia, which has the 12 descriptions given in the Bible, with the stone altar at the base of the mountain. The story of what took place there is extra biblical, and found carved in numerous stones around the site. The evidence is overwhelming. When you can see this with your own eyes, and refuse to believe, there is nothing more I can say. Yet, I'm sure a scientest could show you a ancient pigs tooth, and from that, you would believe the theory of Evolution. And then you turn around, and call me narrow minded. I never get bored, proclaiming Gods truth.

 

The thing is, God sometimes lies about stuff, or convinces people to believe lies. How do you know what you say is true?

 

Many of the Books of the New Testament were written by eyewitiness of the events. And most of them were written before 80 years.
The Apostle John wrote the Book of John and John 1,2, and 3. Apostle Paul, he was the one blinded by the light and knocked off his hourse wrote the book of Acts. Mark wrote the book of Mark, as Matthew wrote the Book of Matthew and Luke wrote the Book of Luke. These were all first hand accounts, and not second hand reports. They all wrote from their perspectives, and this is what makes the Bible so believable. And not to forget the fact, that Christ fulfilled the 300 prophecies of the Old Testament.

 

Repetitive birth and death is not found in the Bible, and to try to get this belief inserted into the Bible will always fail because it is a false belief. Supported by those who would have men believe that they can live evil lives but will have endless chances to get their act together. The Devil supports this belief, and encourages men to believe this. Once you have died without Christ, you will realize there are no other chances, that is why Christ spent a third of His ministery warning people of Hell, and to avoid it at all cost. If there was such a thing as reincarnation, Christ would of not wasted His breath warning people to avoid Hell. Reincarnation is a belief supported by demonic forces as a false hope which will surly send billions of men and woman to Hell where there is no escape. Those who support this idea, are pushing a doctrine invented by demons.

 

This is completely pointless. You haven't shown anything in the least little bit convincing, and really this thread has become a bore.
Why not go back to the christanity forum, because you're clearly getting nowhere here.

 

GOD DOES NOT LIE the men who manipulate Gods words are the liars, most people especially Christians are oblivious of the fact that the christian Bible was edited to fit with the political atmosphere, go research about the Essence community , the Cathars etc or the reason why king Constantine ordered the council of Nicosia to compile what could make it into the gospels and what was radically destroyed!!!!! And ask yourselves why these people were violently exterminated for being heretics, why were the witches burned/ ISNT THIS AGAINST THE LAW OF love one another, why have religions perpetuated the worst human rights and animal rights abuses ? WHY
the answer is simple Human weaknesses- the lure of power money dominance and all the things material.
divisions in the churches who apparently all follow christ but dont live up to His vision of love. the division among the muslim brotherhoods...all the sexism involved in conservative religion....the divisions in hinduism and the conflicting sampradayas.

God didnt create Ayatollahs , Popes, Priests, Nuns, Pastors...all those are human titles. Some are liars, some are blindly following, some are looking for the truth.
in the beginning there was a way of life ordained by God ...religions are just the makings of men who wrote down the rules in order to control society.

peace and love
xxx
may the force reveal you the truth

PS; God exists and loves us all and so He gives free will to act and we misuse it, Dont listen to lies anymore look for the truth within you. we are all creatures of God and for that reason we dont need religious leaders lying to us.

 

The way forward is to deal with all religions. Core values are the same am always raving and ranting about love. Isnt that what God is all about? Arent we all created by God? The issue is that God is The One God no matter what you may call God...Allah , Krishna, Shango the Truth is that if we all had a God to ourselves that means we would all be damned since we all proclaim somehow that what each one of us follows is the ultimate truth and whoever does not is damned. Would God be so cruel as to destroy most of Creation according to our various beliefs? It is true that some religious leaders have lied to us therefore guard your love for God selfishly. its the only treasure that you carry away with you, every other thing remains on earth and is dissipated accordingly.

Social conditioning and the influence of indigenous culture is usually assimilated into religion, and therefore creates a volatile hotpot.

Personally i was born catholic, although am affiliated to Hare Krishnas, the universal spirit, i read the koran, Bible and Bhagavad gita and am at home with everything. ive never felt any more happier than i am now . for that matter i try to love everyone and and mutually respect all their beliefs.

All thats important is LOVE LOVE LOVE and more LOVE it doesnt matter whether your husband or wife is of a difeerent faith. But refrain from trying to Brainwash people int being converted to another faith.


peace and love
xxx
may the love of GOD reign

 

Social conditioning and culture are the entire sum of religion for many. They just believe what they were brought up to believe, and never question anything, or move beyond the general belief systems of their ancestors.
Thus, false religion is promulgated. Based not on experience, but usually on texts, and a version of the herd mentality.
Since the conditioning is usually backed up with threats of damnation etc. it is based to a great extent on fear. People are controlled by fear of a god the existence of whom they can't even prove.

 

1. I'm not trying to insert anything into the Bible that's not there. All I said is that there are existing verses or passages that can be interpreted as veiled references to reincarnation.

2. In a previous post in this thread, I quoted another scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, which is generally acceped to have been in written form and a significant part of the scriptural basis of the Vedic spiritual culture of India by the time Jesus Christ was born. This scripture is a classic reference about reincarnation. Did the Devil invent this and other scriptures that predate Christ's earthly life or the Bible of any era?

3. I was trying to start a level discussion, not challenge your faith. You've responded with a stock devil-and-hellfire broadside designed to clear the deck of any questioning and any possibility of dialogue.

 

Outside of your denial of every point I have brought to this post I'm still waiting for you to give me an authorative rebutil of evidence given. So far all I have gotten from you is (I THINK) Tell me why the pillars found on either side of the Red Sea have nothing to do with the Bible. Tell me why the descovery of Mount Sinia can't be. Tell me why the prophecy of the East Gate must be false. What is pointless, is your total lack of ability to frame a defense for your denial.

 

I can't speak for religious leaders, but the God of the Bible I personal know. I have heard His voice. I don't believe in blind faith, and those who ignore the prophecies of the Bilble are the one's who do. The future of the world is recorded in the pages of the Bible, and the Jews are not back in Israel by accident. If you knew anything about the Bible ,you would know why they are returning.

 

And all we get from you is what you think. Which really, isn't very interesting.

 

Campbell, as a consequence of this response to one of my earlier posts, I asked you if the Devil invented scriptures, such as the Bhagavad-Gita, that were in existence before the time of Christ or the compilation of the Bible of today. You haven't responded to the question.

I don't think you are going to repond, because to do so in accordance with this answer to my previous post would force you into the position of publicly stating that the Devil and demonic forces created spiritual traditions other than the Judeo-Christian one. Per your apparent logic: Since the Devil supports and promotes belief in reincarnation, he must have created the pre-Christian era spiritual traditions, such as Hinduism and Buddhism, with which this idea originated. This conclusion will further force you into taking the position that God either makes a mistake or allows the Devil to do his work for him every time he creates a new soul that will be born as a Hindu or Buddhist for his/her one chance at life..

Incidentally, the Bhagavad-Gita states that evil or demoniac persons are born into animal bodies in succeeding lives and from there fall into the darkest regions of existence, with almost no future chance of liberation. Maybe the "New Age" concepts of reincarnation paint a picture of endless chances to get your act together, but traditional Hinduism makes it clear that there are dire consequences for those that misuse their human lives.

 

Well if you really want to know what I think, you would have to read the Bible. Because what I think, is clearly stated in the scriptures.

 

What about all the people in tribal communities who have never heard of Jesus and the Bible, Do they go to hell?

This is what the people who created all religious texts state they did. If their opinion differs from the Bible this is the devil's work?

What is the truth of the Bible?

 

I don't care who you are, or where you are on this earth. If you ask the God of this universe to reveal to you who He is, He will do so. And yes, the Bible states that most people are headed for Hell, because they spent a life time ignoring God. Most have fallen into the trap of vain religion. There are thousands of faiths in the world, most of them counterdict each other, and this is Gods work?
The Truth of the Bible can be seen in it's fulfilled prophecies, and in it's stories that are now being verfied by recent descoveries. Other religions have nothing like this, because those religions were inspired by error, and came from the will of men, and not God. Only God can write a Book of verifiable truth, and that's what you have in the Bible.

http://www.bibleprobe.com/exodus.htm
http://www.harpazo.net/easterngate.html
http://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/redsea.htm
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/MtSinaiPAX.htm

 

Thanks for answering. I could address every statement you've made, but there's no point in doing so.

 

Interesting, what exactly do you know of other religions? how is will of man different from will of God. Why does God write the bible, when he can just say it or reveal it?