Sen. Kerry's Future...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ole_Goat, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. Ole_Goat

    Ole_Goat Member

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    Its unlikely he will make another run in four years. The Dems may consider him damaged goods (Vice President Gore current standing comes to mind). Sen. Hillary Clinton probably will make a run for President herself.

    Sen. Kerry probably will replace Sen. Edward Kennedy (when Sen. Kennedy retires) as the Liberal Wing Standard Bearer of the party. As such he will continue, as he has during the campaign, criticize Pres. Bush's Foreign Policy and Domestic Policies, and the forth coming nominations for the Federal Court Bench and the Supreme Court.
    Maybe even attempting to become the next Senate Minority Leader. If he doesn't, this could be a clue of opinions other Democrats have of him. Maybe Sen. Clinton also would like the job for herself.

    The fun will be who else, besides Sen. Clinton, bubbles up from the ranks to make a run for the Presidency.
     
  2. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    It makes me sick that people consider John Kerry and Ted Kennedy "liberals".

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  3. Ole_Goat

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    If they aren't Liberal, then what are they? Certainly not Conservative, definately left of Center.
     
  4. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Oooo....I HATE Hillary Clinton sooo entirely much that I would actually vote Republican just to see she doesn't get in.

    Next time I've voting for some little guy (green, nader, whatever) no matter how bad the republicans look or how good the dems look. I will never trust a dem again after watching kerry just bend over like that.
     
  5. Ole_Goat

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    Just asking, why do you hate Hillary? Also, in my previous post I stated Sens. Kerry and Kennedy were Liberal. I still do. What's your opinion?
     
  6. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Kerry is definitely out, but I'll bet Edwards is in.
     
  7. Ole_Goat

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    I heard on the radio news, about 10 minutes ago, that his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer.
    Have seen with condition up close, hopfully they found it early and she'll enjoy about as complete recover as one can. Most optimistic outlook still mandate treatments will still take several years. He may not have the desire to continue in politics when something this close hits.
     
  8. POPthree13

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    When his son died in a car accident he claims politics saved him. He jumped in with both feet.
     
  9. Ole_Goat

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    I reread Post #7, just to make it clear, it was Senator Edwards' wife that was diagosed with cancer. I should have made that much more clearer.
     
  10. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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  11. superNova

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    maybe you should look at all the good things she's done too instead of just one thing.
     
  12. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Oh yeah...let's ignore the little things she's done like try to destroy the american family.

    While we're at it lets ignore the little things Bush does like the patriot act and war.
    Oh wait, I forgot..we ARE ignoring those things.
     
  13. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    Why? I think Edwards contributed nothing positive at all to Kerry's campaign.
     
  14. HonkyTonk

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    Edwards couldn't even carry his own state. I am really interested in who the Republicans choose to run. I personally would like to see Pat Bucannan with a seriouls chance of victory. Hell if he can make friends with HST, he must be a true uniter.
     
  15. Jozak

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    Hes to conservative to win, period.

    It's going to hopefully be a McCain/Guliani ticket in 08.
     
  16. BlackVelvet

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    actually i like John McCain
     
  17. Jozak

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    I LOVE McCain and Guliani, and if they run I will campaign for them like hell. Theyre basically libertarian like, and thats why I like them.
     
  18. Pointbreak

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    Excellent point, except for the fact that Hillary never said anything like that. Still, its fun to believe in the boogeyman.

    Edwards was never expected to carry his own state. That's not the point. He has charisma and conviction, which democrats responded to in a way they didn't respond to Kerry.

    There is no way Giuliani or McCain are getting on the ticket. They are too independent and the RNC bigwigs wouldn't trust them to do what they wanted once they were in the white house. Forget it.

    As for Buchanan, he's a semi reformed crank and a follower of left wing economics. Big business wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. No chance.
     
  19. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    ...when really they should consider them elitist lying hypocrite shitwads.


    I know.


    I think that if Hillary Clinton tries to run in 2008, she will be even easier to discredit and humiliate and shred than that loser Kerry was. People love to hate Hillary. I should know -- I DO! Do you think it would be hard to turn people against her as a power-hungry she-bitch who stuck with an absolute shitheel of a womanizing, cheating husband clearly because she lusts for power?!

    That would be the first thing that starts getting discussed. Then there would be her ZIP leadership abilities; her ZIP record in the senate (assuming she'll be reelected between now and then, 'cause if she's not, forget the presidency); her easy-target shenanigans with the Whitewater scam (have we forgotten? NOOO we have not!); the mysterious death of Vince Foster; the mysterious reappearance of the FBI files that the Clintons dug up on their enemies; her carpetbagging in NY, which is NOT "her state" just because she wanted to be A senator SOMEWHERE...

    There is not a chance in hell that Hillary Clinton could make it past the minefield of her own creation to successfully run for president. The skeletons in her closet make it more like a MAUSOLEUM than a closet. She was over before she started. That fuggin' family is SOOO delusional about themselves. Really. And Chelsea? GAG me!

    Buddy ran in front of the car to escape the nightmare of living with those fuckups! Believe me!

    -Jeffrey
     
  20. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    If you think they're "basically libertarian," then you don't know much about them.

    Giuliani ruled New York City like a fuckin' gestapo. He is such a libertarian that he drove the sex shoppes out of Times Square so that he could whore the place to DISNEY (tm)!! He took thriving businesses and told them, "You want to renew your lease with the city? FUCK you." Suddenly thriving legitimate sex businesses had no place to call their stores. That AIN'T LIBERTARIAN.

    You know what also AIN'T LIBERTARIAN?
    McCain passing FARCICAL legislation that bars all kinds of groups from advertising for X period before an election. Groups as diverse as NRA, ACLU, Sierra Club, NAACP, all forbidden -- despite the First Amendment -- from running ads advocating a given candidate by name within 60 days of an election. That's a muzzle on free speech. You know who WASN'T muzzled? GEORGE "MEDDLER" SOROS and his BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, tens of millions of which he pumped into shadowy "527" groups that are exempt from the McCain strictures.

    Don't give me "McCain and Giuliani are basically libertarian." They're the same kind of socio-fascists as any Democrat.

    -Jeffrey
     
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