Shadow Person in my Room

Discussion in 'Yoga and Meditation' started by dsd5bdc, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. dsd5bdc

    dsd5bdc Member

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    I have taken to meditating at night in my room, when everything is quiet and dark. It's my favourite time to meditate, and I have had very good results. However, there is a shadow person in my room who I see every time, without fail, when I meditate. It is a black silhouette, small, but unmistakably in the form of a person. It always appears very close, sometimes wisping through the air, sometimes coming into me. It is very interesting, but very strange and a little unsettling. Can anyone offer some enlightenment?

    The deeper I go the more I feel its presence. I have been very close to astral projecting several times, and am very excited about it, but I am very curious about this shadow person.

    It's very interesting. Hallucinations or not, incredible phenomena lay just outside our field of perception at all times, but 99.5 of people think it "irrational" or "not real". Just like dreams aren't real, or drug experiences aren't real. Only capitalism and materialism are real. Bullshit. All perception is equally valid.
     
  2. Aerianne

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    Maybe it's an aspect of yourself that you are seeing.
     
  3. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    Yeah it could be your astral self actually
     
  4. dsd5bdc

    dsd5bdc Member

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    :dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:

    That trips me out. How would that work when I am still in my body?
    It is almost always there in the dark at night. To elaborate, for the past year and a half, since I first took shrooms, I have been constantly on the verge of hallucinations. I can hallucinate at will. Of course, our "rational" world would call this a mental disorder and urge me onto "safe" pills, but I think it is a blessing, as I am in constant reminder that our physical world is but an illusion. Anyways, I see the figure floating above me, flying, drifting; but only at night, and only in silence. It is very surreal, very interesting, but a little frightening, though I'm used to it.

    As for astral projection, I have come close a couple of times; I have felt my whole body "vibrate", and felt like I was almost about to get ripped out of my body, but I simply couldn't get over the mental block of fear. I know the fear is irrational, but it is difficult to get over. I also have a hazy memory of being ripped out of my body in the middle of the night and floating up to my ceiling.

    Thanks for the responses!
     
  5. desert-rat

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  6. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    Nobody listens to me about these things. Why would they? My answers are down to Earth. Meant to simplify. Don't use big terms, fatuous god-kings as mental suppositories. The fact that I was an initiate of the one true Golden Dawn, practiced Hindu and Buddhist tantras for 35 years and have a sister who owns a psychic bookshop in California pretty much means I have seen it all.

    Here's how it is for you. You practice meditation in the dark and at night. Because you are sitting up you are preventing your body from relaxing while at the same time your brain is filling with sleepytime hormones and chemicals. Because you're awake you get a whole plethora of mental and physical sensations and feelings of weight, expansion, and other feelings associated with sleep and dreaming. Because you are falling asleep while your mind is remaining lucid.

    There are reasons for practicing in the morning after ones bathing.

    All perception is equally valid as changing relative phenomena. The necessity to place meaning on things which have no meaning is a sign of an unfit mental structure. In every system of spiritual insight I have studied no meaning is given to mental phenomena, and there are millions of reasons why. Any crack in the sidewalk can make you trip if you live shuffling your feet. The time of meditation is the one time of self assured liberation. You are not doing that yet. This preoccupation with astral stuff is also not in that direction and that is sad. It's like you're trying to fix an engine with your teeth.
     
  7. dsd5bdc

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    I absolutely agree with your first point, that all experience is valid, and to designate one experience as "more real" than another is irrational. However, I disagree with your second point. I consider all experiences, from sobriety to drugs to dreams to deliriums to astral travel to be, as you say, "equally valid". So why not extend your consciousness to many points, and explore the world around you? To repress the natural lust for experience is to repress energy and spirit itself. Everyone must follow their own path.
     
  8. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    Interest and obsession are different. I wasn't trying to argue either. In fact, regarding your query regarding meditation and astral/shadow things my interest is in helping you to understand what you are trying to gain. I don't think your goals are clear regarding meditation, what it is, what it is for, and you clutter astral traveling into meditation like the two are related or have similar goals methods outcomes. They don't.

    In meditation proper, no thoughtform is given precedence. Each thought is released as it arises. This is standard, regardless of what you feel regarding validity of delving into experience. I suggest that you don't confuse meditation with whatever it is you're doing and you keep meditation pure and available in its true form as the real rejuvenation tool it is, and not try to preload your experience regarding it.
     
  9. windy

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    Everything Chodpa says is true. Don't cling to anything. Let it go.More wonderous things await. But you'll have to let them go too! :)
     
  10. Eon

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    ^^ Indeed. The many distractions are well documented. It is worth proper research and study.

    OP , sounds like you are doing OK by just noting these things as they manifest. I suggest maintaining non-attachment.
     
  11. dsd5bdc

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    Thank you for the answers everybody, I am glad there is a place on the internet I can ask these questions, the "real" world is too ego-bound and insane to worry about "petty superstitions" like meditation!

    When I meditate I always try to go with the flow and, like Eon said, maintain non-attachment. I am not perfect at it yet but I always strive towards it.
     
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