this was posted on another messageboard i post at... "This is an actual Christian group flyer being passed around on people's windsheild's in SoCal. If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord! Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counseling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if FIVE or more of the following are applicable to your child: -Frequently wears black clothing. -Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. -Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. -Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols. -Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. -Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.) -Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically. -Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports. -Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. -Takes drugs. -Drinks alcohol. -Is suicidal and/or depressed. -Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.) -Complains of boredom. -Sleeps too excessively or too little. -Is excessively awake during the night. -Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.) -Demands an unusual amount of privacy. -Spends large amounts of time alone. -Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits.) -Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. -Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this. -Misbehaves at school. -Misbehaves at home. -Eats excessively or too little. -Eats goth-related foods. Count Chocula cereal is an example of this. -Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.(Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.) -Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. -Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature. -Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. -Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. -Dances to music in a provocative manner. -Is homosexual and/or bisexual. -Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism. -Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth". -Claims to be a goth. If FIVE or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center."
no kidding kandahar... i sure am glad for this though. I had no idea I was goth. damn you Count Chocula!
MOST of those things are normal teenage activity. I have a funny story (well actually, it is kind of sad.) One of our neighbors is a Rightous Biblebanging radical. Her children could't watch Bewitched because it had "witchcraft" on it. They were not allowed to celebrate Halloween because it was "evil" and one of my dd's came home crying one day, because one of their two dds said it was the Devil's Birthday, and if she went trick or treating, she would go rignt to hell. The parents critizised Bear and I because we refused to HIT our children (they claimed it was the Biblical way to raise children, to regularly HIT them.) They would "preach" to the other kids, and had seriously stunted social lives, due to their being trained to be totally critical of anyone who didn't attend their particular church or who partook in activities they didn't "beleive in." (Yet, the husband cheated at cards and board games that we played for fun, and lied about things regularly, go figure.) Well, the second daughter gets to High School (they had been in a sheltered Christian School for all of Grammer school and Jr High) and almost IMMEDIATELY becomes a complete Goth. Black everything. Asked my kids if she could "borrrow" a Marilyn Manson album (which I don't allow in the house, and she was surprised. LOL.) ANd then she gets arrested for lighting up a bowl IN the corridor of the school. My kids said she was SO stoned she didn't realize where she was. They didn't let the kids velebrate Halloween, so now EVERY DAY is Halloween. The other dd in the family is a confirmed druggie, who has tried to get my kids to take Triple Cs with her. (My kids said "NO way.") So I raised Hippie kids, in a heathen enviroment (not really heathen, but it was according to them) and my kids say NO to stupid drugs, don't go around telling people they are "Vampyres" and never have gotten arrested for smoking pot in plain view at school. Hmm, my "heathen hippie" kids were raised to think for themselves, their kids were raised NOT to think at all, and it just made them MORE prone to bad "influences." Sorry story. Sad kids. These people, their tactics don't work.
is that a serious fucking thing? if so whoever wrote that needs to learn about something called INDIVIDUALITY. Jesus christ, i am a buhddist, and they are calling that a dangerous cult religion? And they watch cable tv? what is wrong with these people? The count chocula thing is just stupid... people and things like this really piss me off; namely that homosexuality thing.
yeah, this is a real flyer being left on people's windshields in california. pretty sad, eh?? maggie sugar, that is a great example of how these people are just completely insane. no sense about them, at all. thanks for sharing that.
I would laugh my ass off, if I didn't think that some people are serious about this. And how dare they insult others' religions. So self rightous, which I believe is a sin to the Christians.
Not Count Chocula... Hes so Wholesome packed full of vitiamins and minerals... Hes the devil in desquise
I particularly liked the description of cult religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism, and "philosophy."
Yeah, that got a out-loud laugh from me. Awhile back, I had that canadian girl tell me to leave the good ole USA when I defended Hinduism in a thread ... HahaHaHa - still makes me laugh - I thought religious freedom was one of our rights, at least for now.
lol, this reminds me something I read on www.everything2.com : Your child may be a goth if s/he.... Sings songs of conquest, while drinking mead from a horn. Insists that the bedroom window have a point at the top. Constantly sharpening spearpoints. Makes blood offerings to Wotan. Talks in a language that is "sort of like German". Voted most likely to sack Rome for the High School yearbook. Signs the yearbook in runes. Brings home a freshly-killed deer every Friday. Never tires of almost-raw venison for Friday dinner, but won't eat vegetables. Thinks that Vandals are a bunch of sissies. Depending upon age, lords it over Pomerania, Dacia, Ukraine, Spain, or Italy.
HAHAHA! Well, apparently, according to that, I'm the goddamn anti-christ...hahaha. Wow, that...just wow...haha.
how about signs your kid is becoming a fanatical christian 1. blatantly ignores scientific facts 2. has new disdain for islamic peoples 3. isn't having a convulsion, is actually speaking in tongues 4. wants 7 kids prior to age 19 5. overly concerned with placing the ten commandments in the front yard
The girl that sat next to me in math last semester moved when she found out that I'm an Agnostic Jew (Jewish by culture, Agnostic by faith). I found that QUITE ironic because she would always brag about how many 35 year old guys she slept with and how drunk she got the weekend before, only to be offended by me not being a Christian. Ah.. gotta love the fanatics. Adds a bit of humor to my day. =)
Well I was holding up okay until I got to the part about the Count Chocula cereal, then I snarfed my chai tea right out my nose.
i hit 20 different one on me, none of which are specific to goths. Most of those apply to any rebelling sub-culture. It was a good laugh thou