"Since everything supposedly came from the big bang"

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Tormentations, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. Tormentations

    Tormentations Member

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    Do you think there was intelligent life living on what did the big bang before it went **BIG BANG**? And what would that kind be called to mankind?

    O, and like a valcano active again: is a big bang number 2 set to blow from the same spot any time soon? If not, why not?

    Also do you think the universe randomly selected the big bang to start things off?
     
  2. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    You don't seem to have any understanding of the big bang theory..
     
  3. thedope

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    Perhaps if they are lacking in understanding you could share yours.
     
  4. I don't think we really can understand the big bang as human beings. We're only human. We think of things in terms of bangs. What actually happened...who the fuck knows.
     
  5. Zorba The Grape

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    I don't think there's any way of knowing how the universe came into being. The 'big bang theory' is just a guess, from what I can see.
     
  6. Duck

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    Once again.
    No understanding of it.

    I don't know nearly enough to become a teacher of a subject, I have a rather elementary and rough understanding of it.

    One thing I can tell both of these is that it has nothing to do with a bang. In fact, there's no sound in space =P
     
  7. It's interesting to imagine just this thing suddenly coming into being. This...beyond enormous thing, in a matter of milliseconds. It's incredible.
     
  8. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    In theory it all began in a singular of infinite density and infinite heat.
     
  9. Zorba The Grape

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    <!-- Begin liberal joke of the day -->

    Also known as Glenn Beck! :cheers2:

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  10. rebelfight420

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    Considering our lack of knowledge of the big bang, it would be pure speculation.....but I think super human-penguin hybrids inhabited the earth or "htrae" (everything was spelled backwards!) A dominant race of human-penguins also known as the "Atronzs"
    enslaved the rest of penguinity, until moon or "noom" aliens defeated the "Atronzs" and emancipated the rest of peng-sapiens.
    Then the universe collapsed within itself into the smallest sub-atomic particle, causes the precursor to the 547th big bang.
     
  11. MikeE

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    I'd recomend Hawking's A Brief History of Time
     
  12. happydude_60

    happydude_60 Senior Member

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    Reading this thread has made me want to drink a large amount of alcohol.
     
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    the penguin shit got me worried now.. :(
     
  14. sobebella

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    duck, im kinda annoyed by your self-mighty attitude.

    he makes a valid point just because you don't understand his point of view. before you go around putting people down, make sure YOU know what your talking about. you need to be less closed minded and stop being SO dismissive.

    what he's saying is this: maybe before the big bang happened, there was life, and maybe the big bang might happen again.



    this made me think...maybe the big bang was the last bout of life's "end of the world" and then it restarted? the big bang just kinda proofed some stuff up and let life start anew with new possibility?


    Tormentations, very nice thought, got my mind moving :)
     
  15. Duck

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    How is that self mighty?
    All I said is he has no understanding. I didn't say I know all. =S
    I have little understanding of it myself (compared to the vast amount of theory on the subject), just more than him.
    Saying one thing is not right, is in no way saying that you are always right, or whatever you took from it.
    The point of the theory is that it was the beginning. Primordial soup is all that there was before the big bang.
    The universe was uniformly filled with a high and dense energy that was of extreme pressures and temperatures that inflated and formed the elementary particles (and some sorta plasma), and they moved around randomly at some speed and collided and created and destroyed particle/anti-particle pairs. Something happened, and particles prevailed over anti-particles. The temperature cooled (here's where my understanding gets real fuzzy) and shit slowed down, and most of the universe was annihilated. Particles started to form atoms, and then slowly everything was formed.

    Back to his post:
    Impossible.
    No; and it's a dumb question. Before another Big Bang - everything would have to come back together again - and seeing how the universe is expanding - that's not likely.
    Now, there could be a separate Big Bang, forming a new universe - but no one really knows how that would work, or even what is going to happen as our universe expands more and more; so it's pure speculation.
    The universe doesn't 'select'. The universe has no consciousness.


    If he posted this in a philosophy forum, I'm sure he would've had a much kinder response - but this is a science forum, and he clearly has absolutely no understanding of the science behind the Big Bang.

    There could have been life before the Big Bang - but it wouldn't be "on what did the Big Bang." It would have been in an older universe or in a multiverse of some sort.
     
  16. jnorton47

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    Okay Duck. I have to agree with sobebella on your tone. you do sound a little pompous. However I do give you credit for showing the most understanding of the big bang theory posted here.
    peace :)
     
  17. TheMadcapSyd

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    Our universe is actually expected to begin contracting again eventually once gravity stops it's expansion, that if it's a closed universe. But then again if it's not, the universe will keep expanding, and keep accelerating the speed it's expanding at, leading to catastrophic failure of it anyways.
     
  18. sobebella

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    ok, this one i admitadly was a little pre-agitated from your response on my thread....i know what i was saying, and i have a full enough understanding to make the point i was trying to, and so does the creator of this thread to make his point.

    you need to learn:

    1: you might interprate what some one says diffrently than what they mean. some people think diffrently, and to they fully understand what they say, and its frustrating when they try to share and explain their idea, but others take it in a way they see as wrong, when their idea is more of and idea and less of talkign about facts.

    in this thread, he wasnt talking about the theory of the big bang in terms of how it happened/why it happened or the likes, he is stating something he believes. it has little to do with what the accual theory states. the basic jist of the theory that most people get is: something blew up and created the universe, and this is all that is relevent to this thread, it is NOT MENT to go in-depth with the true meanings of the theory. he is making a point to think, perhaps the big bang was not the start of the universe as we think, but the restart, the rebirth. and this point cannon be said to be valid or invalid as the whole theory of the big bang is purely theoretical in the first place. i for one think he had a brilliant thought on the matter, because i saw into his way of thinking, you need to read it and try to think more on it, rather than reading once, maybe twice, then shooting him down compleatly without the common cutisy to extend your knowledge on the matter, and explain how the theory works. you simply told him he was wrong in his thinking of a theory, which is not set in stone to begin with.

    to sum it up, you need to work on your people skills, and you need to learn that more importantly than informing people of an inacrecy theyve made, you need to correctly inform them, when appropriate, when it is relevent and you understand the point or points he/she is trying to make. it might look like one thing but it can mean an entirly diffrent thing.






    no, in fact, it isnt, as the big bang is a theory. theorys can be incorrect. like i said above, perhaps people got it wrong, instead of a begining, it is a rebirth prossece. not farfetched at all if you think about it. if the universe would be reset, how the hell would we know? we wouldnt, we'd see it as the start, we know nothing of the before time that may have been. for all we know, life is on repeat, it resets and continues again exactly as it did before, like a VCR tape rewinding and playing again. or perhaps entirly diffrent realitys. who knows.


    no idea is really a dumb idea, and to put one down is to put down potential for a break through in science none of us could ever think of. things like the internet were critasized as dumb ideas before their creation, and now if the internet were to randomly turn off, we could even die off, we are so dependent on technoligy (but thats a diffrent topic :p). to get more directly on topic, same as i explained, perhaps it is,m perhaps it explodes again, restarting our universe, every so often. youll never know.



    like iv said, youll never know, perhaps the universe is the god every one worships in one way or another. just because you cant hear see feel taste smell or sence the being that could be the universe, doesnt mean it isnt the presence that controles our little lives.
     
  19. Duck

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  20. Zorba The Grape

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    I'm with Duck, up to a point -- if the theory of the Big Bang is correct (a huge 'if'), the original question is stupid. If it's not, then the original question is moot because it assumes that a 'big bang' occurred at all. I don't personally put much faith on anything we supposedly know about the universe. We're observing it from only one place, one time, and one perspective. All we can really do at this point is guess based on the limited information we have access to; while it can't hurt, I don't like the way it's been turned into a doctrine which is supposedly known fact. Almost nothing about the universe is known fact. Maybe I'm just a sceptic.
     

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