There is this old Russian prog rock song that has this premise: We are not living, we are simply slowly dying. As animals and humans, we do not know how to die, we simply know how to live, but our entire existence is actually a slow death. It says that there's nothing worse than living a long life, because all we really do is await death, and we are impatient as a species, and do not like to wait, which is why we suffer. It's not something I'd apply to my life or take too seriously, but it's an interesting though, wouldn't you say so?
Well, it's actually not too grim once you really think about it. Death does not have to be associated with something negative.
I have thought about this before. Its a somewhat interesting idea and I like to apply it to people as a whole but find no use for the idea in my life.
Well, it is somewhat nihilistic, but at the same time... it's just a song. I like the way it kinda explains human suffering. Yet I do not think that it's meant to be applied to life on an individual basis to begin with.
I'm not sure I like the idea at all. The only reason you would want to die is if you thought your life sucked. Notice I said "thought".
I get a little tired of "positive reinforcement" too. But then again, I also avoid people who are always down and whose life has no meaning (to them).
Yes, and that also plays a big part in it. I do not think that we are aware of the fact that "life" is merely slow death, but our subconscious is, and we cannot possibly figure out how to control that, and never will.
I think and both you and Face Eater are misunderstanding the idea. It's not depressing, at all, neither is it trying to say that you shouldn't love life or enjoy it. It merely somewhat allegorically explains why we potentially suffer, for you cannot deny the fact that all humans suffer.
yeah, but i don't really think that is the root of suffering. some people see death differently than others... and "suffering" is different from case to case, too...
Well, as I've said... it ain't no great philosophy or anything, just a thought, an analogy... ...and as I've also said, it cannot be applied to the individual, but only to a collective whole of humanity.
I see that dude, but that doesn't actually make any sense. The reason why we suffer is because our expectations do not match reality. I would have thought this was obvious, but oh well.
that's exactly how i see it too, on the individual basis, but pavel is talking about the whole of humanity, so i suppose i see how the hypothesis works... but you could just as easily say we suffer because god hates us.