This is a short but revealing clip taken from the Director's Cut of Dave vonKleist's 911 In Plane Site documentary: http://www.911inplanesite.com/media/exit_strategy_med_encoding.wmv (Broadband - stream) or http://www.911inplanesite.com/media/exit_strategy_med_encoding.wmv (Dialup - right click and select "save target as") To purchase 911 In Plane Site, which I HIGHLY recommend, click here: http://www.911inplanesite.com/
Here are some more clips taken from the video if anyone is interested: The Pentagon: Before the Collapse - STREAM http://www.911inplanesite.com/pentagon_video.wvx No Windows on Flight 175 - STREAM http://www.911inplanesite.com/nowindows_video.wvx Flight 175 Anomalies - STREAM http://www.911inplanesite.com/flight175anomalies_video.wvx Mystery WTC Explosions - STREAM http://www.911inplanesite.com/mystery_explosion.ram MEDIUM BANDWIDTH DOWNLOAD http://www.911inplanesite.com/media/mystery_explosion_solved_med.wmv
I don't know how anyone can watch that documentary and not at least question 9/11, if not be totally convinced that it was a scam. I've seen it, but it was on a friend's computer. Maybe I'll buy it and try to convince my family to watch it.
I have found it odd all along that the pentagon strike just sort of faded from view. After all that was DC. That was our most notable and prestigious symbol of defense.
I've studied extensivly in explosives over the years. I know how they work. The secondary plume does not look like an explosion at all. The smoke appearing underneath the tower can be easily explained as smoke being rushed out the massive stairwells and elevator shafts. Any explosions that may occur in the building that are secondary to the planes crashing into them can also be from the massive natural gas and propane systems used in the towers. Used for heat and for the chefs kitchens inside. As for the pentagon theories. I've said this once, in another forum in here on "Sept 11th fake??..." I know someone who was posted as security at the pentagon who witnessed the plane crash into the building. He is still scarred (and scared) from the incident. People fail to realise that an object of that mass traveling at that speed can crash through two walls no problem. Especially since that sector was under construction. There were contractors killed and people on the flight who were killed. What happend to the people on the plane if it wasn't a plane? They dissapear? The greaving families just give up on them? I just don't get why people are trying to blame our own people for this. Why would we do this for oil? Why would we do this to invade iraq? If you ask me its irrelevant. We invaded iraq because bush wanted to. We didn't need sept 11th to invade. He said there were weapons of mass destruction there. Then we blew the shit out of them. It really didn't have much to do with sept 11th. If there was a real battle on terror we would be bombing the shit out of lower china, afghanastan and pakistan. (where "intellegence" says osama may be hiding.) People we have more important things that we can focus on.
As far as why would they do this to their own people, perhaps because it makes an excellent excuse to give themselves more power, while taking away our rights, and basicaly leads them into being able to get away with whatever, if they can make up some bs story to link it with... I think the better question would be, why wouldn't they do it, and also look at what they would have to gain from doing so, as opposed to the disadvantages( for them )...
Why wouldn't they do it. Because it costed us billions of dollars. They could care less about our privacy. Have we gained power from any of this? No. Osama may have. Im sure he gained much power in the world of people who believe in him. The only reason homeland security has come about, is because 9/11 proved that the CIA is incompatant, and not doing their job. They have ignored the signs/threats since 1987. This has been going on for years. Through regans/bush sr/clintons 1st and 2nd term/and bush jr presidency. The only reason this didn't happen in 93 is because their device wasn't set up near the main pillar.
Or perhaps there is a black underground funding of international terrorism, with the goal of bankrupting america, so that chaos will break out, and we will be forced to accept one world government as the only solution.
First-hand Accounts of Underground Explosions In The North Tower: http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htm First you're an explosives expert? Now you know a person who saw Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon? I have a feeling next you're going to tell me you're Richard Perle or the Tooth Fairy. For all I know you're just making this shit up to fit the way you want the story to be told, while disregarding all evidence and logic that might challenge your fragile belief system and infringe upon your comfort zone, as well as your conditioned need to be a "patriotic American" and not question anything your government does. First of all, there are varied reports of what people saw hit the Pentagon on 9/11. Some people claim seeing the plane hit the building that was alleged to have crashed there. Other people say they saw what they believed to be a fighter jet. Some people say what they saw was too fast to even make out, and that the first thing they noticed was a loud shrieking followed by a huge blast at the face of the Pentagon. There is not ONE person who has yet signed an affidavit, for the record, claiming they had witnessed a jetliner crash into the Pentagon. Secondly, we know that the Pentagon is surrounded by endless surveillance cameras. It is one of the most secured buildings in the world. How come no footage was ever released that CLEARLY shows a plane hitting the building? After all, there were cameras in the parking lot, cameras on the neighboring expressway, and footage confiscated from a nearby gas station within 15 minutes of the blast, that showed whatever it was that hit the building. The footage was never released to the public. So tell me, what do they have to hide? I will believe that a Boeing hit the building when I see the photographic evidence that proves this to be true. Right now, most evidence supports a missile hitting the building. Not an airliner. And what about the Pentagon's missile defense system? Shouldn't the plane have been shot down before it got too close? So now you ask what happened to all the people that were supposedly on Flight 77? That's were it gets interesting, and just downright bizarre. The fact is, nobody knows. All people know is that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon. Photographic evidence proves this, as does firsthand testimonial from firefighters on scene, several who reported smelling cordite but seeing no wreckage matching that of a Boeing. There is also a lot of contradicting evidence from the morning of 9/11. First of all, on the morning of 9/11, Fox News had reported that Flight 93 (the plane that supposedly crashed in Shanksville, PA) actually landed safely in Cleveland with the report of a bomb on board. Hmmm.... Also, keep in mind that all four planes vanished from radar BEFORE they hit their intended targets. So there is reason to believe that the planes that hit the towers might not have even been the specified planes, as you will see in the above clip titled "No Windows on Flight 175." The planes that hit the buildings could have very well been remote controlled decoy planes (which would support the evidence of an unusual pod-like object underneith Flight 175), while the planes with the passengers could have flown to and landed at remote locations. What happened to the passengers (and the planes) is a mystery that might not ever be solved. But you CANNOT deny the phsyical evidence. That is the point! Why would our government do something like this? The same reason they would allow Pearl Harbor to be attacked. The same reason they tried to go through with Operation Northwoods; declassified government documents from 1962 calling for a staged attack on American targets that would be used to blame the Cubans as a pretext for war. The bill got as far as then President Kennedy, who did not allow the plans to go through. Of course he was assassinated a year later. You should understand that the people in the highest echelons of government (and beyond) care about little more than their own agenda and power. They are meglomaniacal egomaniacs, and they justify their actions with the notion that whatever is good for them is good for the entire world. That is how they opperate! And no, the invasion of Iraq DID have to do with 9/11. We wouldn't have been able to invade Iraq if it wasn't for 9/11, which was exploited to no end and used as the pretext to invade and imperialize the Middle East and kill and maim thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children. And yes, oil is a large part of the picture. But it's really a lot more than just that. It's definitely not to "root out terrorism" or "liberate" the Iraqis. Only an idiot would believe that half-assed Karl Rove rhetoric. Do you understand that the neocons planned the Iraq war YEARS before 9/11? The war has been pushed by the neocons of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) think-tank since 1998. When George Bush entered office in 2001, several of these PNAC members joined Bush's cabinet. Such names include Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz -- three blood-thirsty, warhawk criminals that should be behind bars, not holding the high seats of power they possess. Project for the New American Century: http://www.newamericancentury.org
Yes I am an Explosives expert. I went through the Naval school of EOD (explosive ordinence disposal) Joint training, from the 342nd spec ops squadron to the 366th DET 3 joint training school. I finished 1st in my class at the 342nd, and im EOD certified by the USAF for safe demolition pocedures. I know every type of ordinance there is because it was going to be my job to diffuse bombs. I know what they can do and I know the formulas. After acheiving my TS clearence, I decided EOD wasn't what I wanted to do so I transferred to Security Forces. We still have to be knowledable about explosive devices in this career feild. Anyway. Believe what you want to believe. All you are doing is disgracing the families of the people who have died in 9/11. You are also discracing the people who tried to save people from the damage the towers took. I can acctually buy into *gods* theory that someone is trying to bankrupt america. But its the theories that you are presenting that does nothing for anyone but spike paranoia about the government. (if there isnt already enough.) This whole 911 aftermath has been noting but people taking things out of context. I read your sources, and they are about as reputable as your typical internet BLOGS. And about the bad rep thing. Whoever is giving me bad rep for posting my opinion, thanks. Thanks for ruining the whole system. Te rep system is implemented for reporting bad posts. Not because you disagree with someones opinion. And if you do give bad rep, atleast have the balls to leave your name.
Perhaps it would interest you to know that 400 9/11 families currently have a lawsuit filled against the Bush Administration for complicty in the attacks, represented by lawyer Stanley Hilton. Funny you don't hear about this in the mainstream media
This is the preface to the book Inside Job by Jim Marrs, written by Ellen Mariani, widow of Louis Neil Mariani. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This preface is an open letter to the American people, and it comes straight from my heart. I ask that you read this book and discover for yourself why the attacks of September 11, 2001, were, in fact, an inside job. Jim Marrs makes that case in his book; I intend to prove it in a court of law. My husband, Neil Mariani, was killed in the attacks. He was a passenger on United Airlines Flight 175, the second of two planes to crash into the World Trade Center. On the awful day, my husband and I were on our way to our daughter's wedding in California from Boston's Logan airport, but we were booked on separate flights. We took separate flights because we were not sure at first that he could afford to fly to his stepdaughter's wedding. So sometime after I had booked my trip, we held a garage sale, and raised just enough money to purchase a flight for him two hours later than mine. I will never forget the very last moment I saw him at the airport as I departed to my gate. Today I am a bereaved widow, but I am a determined one. I am one of about 75 families that did not file for a settlement from the so-called September 11th Victim Compensation Fund, which consisted of taxpayers' money paid out directly from the US Treasury for the first time in history. Rather than accept about $500,000 to be paid to my husband's estate in compensation for my husband's life, I decided to retain my right to speak out. But I don't want this money; I just want answers. By taking money from that fund, which I call the "shut-up and go-away fund," I would have given up my right to sue United Airlines and the federal government. Once I finally overcame my grief for Neil, which took many hard months, I came to believe that the only way I can get information about what happened to him is through the courts. I became the first family member of a victim of 9/11 to file a lawsuit against the government. My suit is based on the RICO Act, and it is aimed at proving that the September 11 terrorist attacks were no surprise to the government. I believe that many of the highest officials in the federal government were aware the attacks would take place--in fact I am 100 percent sure that they knew. It was difficult to get a lawyer to take my case. Absolutely no one dared take my case against the government. But then I found a courageous man named Phil Berg, a former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania. Our lawsuit is directed President Bush and a number of other administration members. As Phil Berg has written in the Complaint, the suit "is based upon prior knowledge of 9/11; knowingly failing to act, prevent or warn of 9/11; and the ongoing obstruction of justice by covering up the truth of 9/11; all in violation of the laws of the United States." In addition to President George Bush, we named Vice President Dick Cheney, Attorney General John Ashcroft, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice as defendants, among others. The suit also names the Department of Defense, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and the Council on Foreign Relations, among other agencies. Phil Berg and I have agreed to allow Origin Press, the publisher of Inside Job, to print highlights of our Complaint in the appendices to this book. Please read this material, including Ellen Mariani's Open Letter to Mr. Bush--and please support us. I also ask you to read very closely the 23 Questions of the Family Steering Committee that are also reprinted in the appendices. These 23 queries are among the key questions I seek to have answered in a court of law--and that Jim Marrs so effectively puts forth in this courageous book. Our lawsuit cannot bring back my husband or the other victims of 9/11. But I believe it can and it will bring forward the truth and justice that is so badly needed at this time, in this country. When you read this book by Jim Marrs, you will surely see why. Ellen Mariani (widow of Louis Neil Mariani) Derry, New Hampshire May 10, 2004
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=101&contentid=1536&page=2 http://farshores.proboards6.com/index.cgi?board=conspiracy&action=display&num=1095696284 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=2261 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/130904hiltontranscript.htm Theres some links to the Hilton suit. No offence or anything, but I wouldn't call any of these a "reputable news source." The reason this isnt in the main media, is because the is considered a CONSPIRACY THEORY. Which means no proof. Dont get me wrong, some conspiracy theories are good, but this one is rediculous. If anyone is to blame its the CIA.
So you're telling me it's a conspiracy theory that 400 families' of 9/11 victims are suing the Bush Administration? So I guess what that 9/11 widow above wrote is all a lie?? The fact is, what you consider "reputable" news sources is only corporate, government-owned mass media. There are many more sites than what you listed that are reporting this. Prison Planet is a VERY reputable site, BTW.
Prison planet is a site done by alex jones. I like some of alex jones THEORIES, but he is still considered a conspiracy theorist by many. I think the 400 people are trying to find a reason why their people died. I also think they are being taken advantage of by lawyers.
More links: http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.21A.pitt.watchtower.htm http://911review.org/Wiki/StanleyHiltonLawsuit.shtml http://www.meria.net/subscribers/interviews/stanley_hilton_9-11_lawsuit.html http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=9-11_Truth_Movement&printable=yes