So I'm giving it another go with a different batch

I found a friend at work (of all places) that does his fair share of partying in SF. I am going to try another batch of molly next weekend. I hope the roll is a bit more energetic than the last roll.

Does anyone have any guidance on rolling with e and 2ce...like how not to get totally fucked up? i.e how much to take of each etc.

I posed this question in the synthetics forum as well. Apologies if you are reading this again.

 

I posted a response in that thread, I really think you should just take one or the other if your plan is to not get too fucked up. If you want a more energetic roll, add about 65 mgs of caffiene or like 3/4 a coffee when you ingest the MDMA and leave the 2ce out of it.

 

LOL. sounds like sage advice.

 

I don't mean to sound gross but e tends to do a number on my stomach sometimes. Someone told me that I should try plugging...not sure if this method is worth the gross factor.

 

Yah drop 200 mgs MDMA !

Plugging makes it even more chill in my experience. I have taken MDMA every conceivable way a human being can take a drug expect for dropping it in my eye lol so nothing is really that gross to me, but I prefer oral personally. If you are taking Ecstasy and it's upsetting your stomach you may be getting a piperazine. I've never had stomach problems or GI difficulties with MDMA, some occasional tension and anxiety though.

I have heard of people vomiting from MDMA tho so it varies between people.

 

Piperazine? Not sure what that is... So, do 200mg with good strong cup of coffee or caffeine pill?

Actually, I have vomited a couple of times while coming up on e. It is rare but it has happened.

 

Definitely but don't overdo the caffiene, it'll take away from some of the trippier effects of the MDMA, Literally like 3/4 a cup of coffee and 80 mgs max a caffiene pill. Rolling is an artform

 

Guerilla,
You crack me up. I have a feeling I can learn a lot from your experiences. I was told to take vitamin c as well. Does this do anything other than upset my stomach?

 

I don't think so but I can't say for sure. I've heard its supposedly potentiates MDMA but Ive never got a definitive answer. I don't even mess with the 5 htp stuff that's supposedly neuroprotective.

I just take the MDMA and deal with the comedown when I have one, usually plan to make sure the following day is clear of any serious obligations and responsibilities and rest up.

 

I have a bottle of 5 htp sitting in my medicine cabinet. I don't know if it's a placebo effect but I felt better after I took 5 htp for a few days after my last roll.

 

5-HTP can not just be taken a day before, or a day after rolling and make you feel better. You have to preload with it, by taking it for a week minimum before you plan to roll.

 

Yah, I couldn't torture myself like that. When I choose a day to roll, I pretty much have a mild placebo buzz the whole day of from anticipation. I wouldn't be able to stand a week being like that.

 

what i can say is a good amount of what people are getting that is said to be molly is not real mdma its methylome an things of that nature its all over here around detroit an im positive were not the only area good real mdma is hard to come by so when you come by real molly an you know its real an you can get more load up

 

I belive you mean methylone

 

lol however you spell it

 

Yah it seems like some methylone/mephedrone is going around. I've only had methylone sold as 'molly' once and that was early last year and my friend who bought it was convinced it was going to be legit beforehand, I warned him about RC's but he insisted, than bailed and went home an hour into the methylone LOL. I've had strictly MDMA since then (possibly one mde batch) so I've been on a roll :toilet:

It's kind of sad that people are naive like that or some just don't seem to really care but If I was to get non mdxx I do think getting methylone/mephedrone is better than getting bzp.

 

You got that right!! I would much prefer any of those 2 over bzp!! Ugghh i hate that stuff!! Bzp needs too be wiped off the face of the earth. Its one horrible drug. And whoever knowingly trys passing it off as mdma is a horrible person as well. Its a real shame everything is all about money these days!! Luckily i've found a couple reliable sources who i know without a doubt i can trust 100%.