- Some junk that fell out of my mind -

In light of our recent state of the forums, much of it by my hand, I figured Id share this. Hope it means something to someone

- What is Love? (Going into the Heart of what is Living) -

As our common goal, the attainment of satisfaction both brings our family together and tears us apart. As many of us as there are is equal to the number of different means by which each one of us hopes to find a way to calm our minds, contract gratification insurance, find the light, and finally come to terms with this wondrous motion dream imagery display known to us by the name of Life. Our various attempts include barbaric asceticism, ritualistic obsession, abuse of psychoactive chemicals, military discipline, blind deity worship, obeying a guru, accumulation of material possessions or monetary security, absent mindedness through stress and over working our bodies, scientific comprehension of the mechanics of Mother Nature, and so on. What need’s to be realized, and which is the most difficult acknowledgment for many of us to come to terms with, is that all of our processes, formulations, patterns, obsessions or rituals are all born out of fear.
Whatever our goal is, when we have a goal pertaining to the energetic driving power pumping out from the core of our being to find a solid ground to stand on, what we are in fact doing is avoiding the living out of our own life. Living does not involve reflecting in memory, nor speculating at the future. Living is the moment to moment happening which we have all so wastefully avoided by hiding in thought. When we love, we love an image, not a reality. We have attracted to our minds expectations, opinions, and judgments which we in turn project upon our surrounding environment. As we say “I love my wife”, what exactly is it that we are in love with? The wife, the woman that she is at the very moment? Or the image we have constructed of her, the acquired habits she has displayed over the years, the physical appearance we have grown so accustomed to, the smile we are greeted with everyday, the fragrance emanating from her, the way which she makes us feel emotionally or securely, perhaps how she cooks our meals? Do we actually love our wife, or do we love what she is to us?
We have our opinions about our wives, how she makes us smile, annoys us, pleases us sexually, listens to our troubles, pays attention to our rants and raves, excited stories and elaborated accomplishments. But true love has no opinion, love takes no time to asses and judge because time does not exist outside of our limited consciousness. True love just is, and is born out of action. Action is life, what is called ‘really living’ is the moment of action. When we are hungry, this is a fact, we remedy the situation. When we are in physical pain, in a state of imminent danger to our health, we don’t theorize on how the injury is harming our body, we don’t contemplate the nature of pain or how it makes us feel, we simply act. And this action is a state of actually living life. Anything contrary to the burst of action is a total waste of energy. We are in control at that moment and we act according to nature, not thought. Thought is the byproduct of wasted energy and not the other way around in this case.
And what of control? Why do we feel the need to differentiate ourselves where the separation applies to thought alone? Are we not alive right now, together, living life in whatever glorious, repetitive, monotonous, fulfilling manner? Weather we are a species objectively growing on a heated rock floating in space, or a dream God is manifesting, this does not matter, because it IS most definitely happening in whatever form. Can we not simply ‘look’ at it, without being overwhelmed with confusion and fear? Why do we need to believe in God, and why do we need to disbelieve in Her? Some of us rely on our scientific approach to the comprehension of the nature of existence, and some of us rely on our many different god’s which are in reality the manifestation of all our fears, collective misery, obsessions and shortcomings, projected upon either a symbolic physical image or a mental image which is distanced from ourselves. When we worship Jesus Christ, when we worship Buddha, or any number of Hindu representations of God, we are in fact worshipping our own misery, lack of confidence, sadness, pain, and false sense of hope rooted in an ever out of reach solidification of mental and/or physical satisfaction. Some rely on scientists past opinions to bring the inner confidence we require in order to sustain our positive state of mind, and others rely on saints and gurus to be their ‘middle man’ to the divine. Why should I accept what a scientist says is reality? And why should I put my faith into a guru who claims that he has the secret to Samadhi? The scientist demands that in order to follow him, I need to accept his method of testing reality as well as his rules and fundamental principles deemed the laws of the Universe. The guru demands that I obey his every whim and accept the fact that he knows God and will show God to me, as if God was something external or internal that I somehow have been unaware of all this time. Yes masters, we hear and obey. We limit our own energy potential by putting it in the hands of someone who we judge to be better than us. What is better? “I wish I was him”, “If only I could be as smart as her”, “Someday I will attain enlightenment like the Buddha”, “He is stronger than I and therefore superior”, etc.
This sort of separation, this division of one human being from another by placing a limit on our own potential and striving to gain what the other person has, is the waste of energy. Why should I care if that guy writes with more poetic proficiency than I? Why should I bother to wonder at why she has more beautiful eyes than I? Are not my eyes beautiful? How come he makes more money than me, has a prettier family, more well behaved children overall, a bigger home, an easier job? In reality it does not matter. This is a waste of energy, the product of dualistic thought, the uselessness of mental imagery, and a very mundane, lifeless sort of life. A complete waste of time, if you will. Brotherhood, sisterhood, humanity, our family, is not about simple acceptance of the fact that we are different because this involved conflict. Any time we have an idea or a thought that we are different, we have conflict, naturally. We are in conflict with the other person, and we are in conflict with ourselves. As negativity is a lacking of a desired positive notion, a sort of subjective, unsatisfied state of a need to be complete or correct, so positivism is a state of alive on arrival after a total checklist is marked off naming that which is negative. Positivism is a process of negation and is therefore negative in nature until the inventory has been entirely labeled. But the process, itself, is the nonliving of life, the conflict, the separation, the thought that there is a goal (positivism) which needs to be arrived at and the very process becomes the obsession. But this is not to say that the goal should be the obsession either, because the goal is already there, without any need for labeling it. Just, ‘look’ at it, look at everything, and you will discover that it is, has always been, and always will be, all that there actually is. Love.
What is this love, this true love, that has no beginning nor end, is without judgment or opinion, bias or even consciousness? It surely is there with or without us, as to Love, there is no with or without us. It is a state of living, a pure energetic condition out of which all is manifested, gross matter and subtle electricities are condensations of. So if it is really there, then what is it? It is a look, it is the thoughtless, opinion less action of looking at reality for what is really in action already, without the screen of mental imagery we construct, which blocks are view. We are not really perceiving anything in actuality, we are stuck with our images. When we see a flower, we do not actually ‘see’ it, we see what we want or do not want to see. The flower is there, it is love, it blossoms and grows in radiant beauty for no reason, it cares not whether Relayer comes by to ‘look’ at it or if Relayer does not even exist. It is just a state of Love, in harmony with Nature, or itself. When I look at a flower, I see it’s colour, it’s form, it’s position in the ground, and either I think to myself “what a beautiful flower, my eyes are pleased” or I continue walking without living in that moment of observation, completely oblivious to my surrounding. But to actually ‘see’ a flower, I need not identify or ‘become one’ with the flower as in place my consciousness within the flowers limitations of the flowers reach, but only to see that there is in fact no space between myself and the flower. There is no separation, no distance between the flower and myself. There is just a Love, harmonizing within the ‘look’ which is not screened by my image of the flower. The flower just is, I just am, we just are, all just happens.
This is not to say that what we do in life is pointless, of course we need to go to work, we need to live our boring, unproductive lives, eat our food, use the toilet, plan for the future, and so on. This is a necessity which unfortunately is the foundation for the sustaining of our bodily temples. But we do not have to be mundane, our actions though repetitive do not have to become mindless tasks, weighing one actions importance against another. All open, receptive, free actions are required but this sort of mental revolution is what man has been striving to start, but the only way we can turn the gears and put it in motion is by looking, which in turn is living. It is not a learning process, it is what we are, our minds confuse us and make it appear as if it is a complex matter which can only be accomplished by yoga, meditation, psychedelic drugs, enlightenment, studying scripture, obeying a priest or a guru, attaining alphabetical labels and titles after our names to signify scholarly accomplishment, raising a family, making more money, and again, so on and so forth. Just look, I mean really look and listen and feel, with your whole heart, your whole mind, your entire being with every nerve aware. Paying attention, to truly pay attention, is an act of this Love. Does what I say not sit well with you? Don’t judge me for what I am saying, instead, take a look for yourself! I am not a guide, you all are your own guides. Don’t look to me, to Jesus, to the president, to your mother, to your gods, to your gurus or your teachers. Look with your own mind and your own heart, and the truth which has always been there will become your manifested reality. The question is, are you willing to be in a continuous, never ending state of revolt, which in itself is a satisfaction? Satisfied because you are free, liberated, strong, connected, beautiful, controlled, stable, and most importantly, in love.
Namaste
- John

 

interesting thoughts. but way too long for me read the whole thing

 

Love is real, real is love,
Love is feeling, feeling love,
Love is wanting to be loved.
Love is touch, touch is love,
Love is reaching, reaching love,
Love is asking to be loved.
Love is you,
You and me,
Love is knowing,
We can be.
Love is free, free is love,
Love is living, living love,
Love is needing to be loved.

 

Love is an illusion.

 

That would appear to be true, until you feel it.
May I ask you, what then, is reality?

 

I've thought I felt "love" per say, I always talk to myself logically and out of acting on almost any feeling, because I know they are not "real", and will only do me harm. Although it may appear to be selfish(and probably is), I will never care and or love anyone or anything not even myself. I figure if I'm here I might as well live for me.

 

Love is the answer to the question of life.

 

Love is the only thing that is real. Relayer's got it down. I read it, but he needs paragraph spacing.

Live in Love & you will know the only real reality.

 

Or so you think.....what if love is just a vale pulled over your eyes to blind you from the real world?

 

John, the eloquence and power, you use in your writing astounds me. I got chills in my spine reading this. I always love reading your posts. So, thanks, thanks for taking your time to write. Peace Conner

 

in order for the absence of love to be felt, true love must exist in a counter-body. if one sees through the veil of existence and sees only love, another will see through the veil and see the absence of love. for one, love is a bubbling feeling, for another love is vacancy of emotion and inwardly -directed action. love couldn't be rejected if it wasn't there to reject

 

..disney world?

 

That's quite a sermon relayer. thanks for sharing, but i'm not really sure what to make of all that. in my humble opinion, love is simply a sacred awareness of vibrational energy and does not need to be completely analyzed and dissected with lengthy, literal essays for it be fully realized and appreciated. just curious, have you ever tried writing poetry? i'm sure that you must have some really beautiful and insightful prose within your soul just begging to be expressed.

 

What is Love? Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.

 

Your absolutley right jellybean, the awareness of love as the fabric of reality itself can not be imposed upon our conscioucness by the words of another, or at least by the likes of someone so undeserving as myself.
However I feel it is the amassing of everyone's perception of Love that allow us to come to the awarness of it, for many of us, we can not find it entirely on our own. Even one reading to and taking the opinion of my sermon as you call it, would be going against the very revolutionary freedom I was getting at, so its definitley paradoxical, though I feel any truth is going to grind against another no matter where it comes from.

Thank you for the kynd words friend, if you are interested in my poetry and short stories I have some in my myspace blog : http://www.myspace.com/yogasamadhi
And my other writings in this sense are here :
aumshantiaum.blogspot.com
Namaste and much love family

 

but we are all one, are we not?

 

speak for yourself my friend. love, life and reality is a whole lot easier than you make it out to be. not all of us live in fear and some of us actually understand the need for some ego. although it is a wonderful experience to be free from your ego like in meditation or a psychedelic trip, most of us understand that life without an ego would be incredibly difficult if not impossible.

listen to those around you for they may have good advice and take the time to enlighten others to how you see things as everyone can benefit from another perspective. a lot of people have a lot of bullshit to say so you are going to have to filter out what is the truth but be careful because some of you are so afraid of the truth that you can not see or hear it even when it is right in front of your face.

your post is a good one for yourself and others - you are making some progress. we will all know that you have love in your heart when you learn to accept what others have to say. love is not free of criticism, love is not to sit back and let things be. love is about acceptance and interaction. love is simple and love is truth.

i have a genuine love for all creatures and it shines clear even in these forums. it is you and others who not only lack the ability to see it in my words but you also lack the ability to feel love yourselves as you struggle with your pointless attacks against myself and others who grace these forums with loving intention!

too busy getting upset with myself and others for either knowing better or for being in love to see that you have something to learn from us! like you are somehow jealous of what we have as you try to knock us down and rally up your own group of followers to satisfy some selfish agenda!

i love all of you who post here and i wait for the day that relayer finds it in himself to thank those of us who have had such an obvious effect on him. you have changed much in the past year and i think it might be about time you recognize the people in your life who have influenced you. battling with you guys has helped me better understand myself, the truth, and how to present the truth in a way that is more accepted as i better understand people who are so different in so many ways.

peace and love to you all.

let go of your pride, there is no such thing as opinion, we have thoughts - some are right while others are wrong. favorite colors, clothing and food among other things come down to personal taste and most people understand why it is a waste of time to argue over such things. i think we could safely remove the word opinion from our language with great benefit. arguments and debates are about what is right and what is wrong. to say we have a right to our own opinion is complete bullshit. there are consequences to every action and this is a very natural part of life, love and reality. in most cases we have to learn for our selves as there is wonderful consequence for when we do something right and there is horrible consequence for when we do something wrong. sometimes these consequences are subtle and it helps to hear the truth from another perspective to help steer us in the 'right' direction.

i pray that relayer and others will avoid the argument that there is no such thing as right and wrong as they take a step in the right direction. there are natural laws in this universe and you would be better to go with the flow as we are all ascending to the light of heaven, even those who wallow in the darkness will ascend at some point as the warmth of the light welcomes us all! although i do not believe in god, heaven and hell in the traditional sense i think you get my point.

in order to love others you must first love your self. you must be an honest person as you do onto others as you would have done onto yourself. you must learn to love, trust and accept yourself which for most of us is no easy task. as you do this you will naturally start to love and accept others.(i left out trust because sometimes it would be foolish to trust some people) do the right thing in every moment as you are continually testing yourself throughout life. if you make a mistake, learn from it. if someone has advice for you listen with an open mind. help those around you who spit in your face or step on your toes by constructively criticizing them - that is part of what love is all about. i would even go as far to say that you should criticize people who are stepping on their own toes.

 

thanks, 3xi. I agree that the friction that ensues from debate need not be considered an enemy to love, it's very much a symptom of love. and in the same sense that we battle with different elements of our ego, butting heads with each other creates real energy that fuels personal truth pursuits. each voice on these forums is a different but equally valuable voice representing the raw one within. it was as if we were in a whole state and were shattered into an infinite amount of unique shards, each with its own view but no more than a tiny model of the larger whole. all these pieces seem contradictory it their respective quests for self actualization, but all are integral to the collective being.

 

For many people it's the most difficult part of growing up. For some, it's as easy as breathing.

You may be suprised just how many spiritual people would disagree with you, and believe it or not 3xi, in this instance I entirely do agree with you.
Namaste

 

well yeah if there was no ego, there would be no latent separation anxiety, and the cohesive oneness we all comprise wouldn't have any fuel. well, imo