~ Soul ~

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  1. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    So do you know wether or not that living things
    with receptive bodies and a concious awareness
    are physical temples for a soul?
    Im not asking if you believe in the concept or
    do not believe, Im asking if you Know or Dont Know.
    And, do you think soul's are limited to the human
    experience or do you think all living things have
    them?
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Ok, actually, adding the word 'mine' to the
    poll is kind of stupid, that would be more of
    a Christian concept and not a universal
    appraoch.
    Sorry ~
    Just pretend that it says I know that
    souls are real and I am in tune with them ~
     
  3. Fallout55

    Fallout55 Banned

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    Ha, you need more options. It's like a christan asking
    1.Do you accpet Jesus in your heart?
    or
    2Are you doomed to internal hellfire?

    No in between.

    Personaly I think there is something more than what I can percive from day to day, but it's so mind blowing what ever it is its hard for me to even attempt to put into words. soul, god anything they are all odd concepts in trying to explain what I belive there is constantly lurking over us, its like trying to meassure the unvierse with a 12 inch ruler.
     
  4. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Well, I agree Fallout, but that would be
    for a different thread.
    Im asking if you get in tune with you
    the soul through meditation, or even
    through thought, because if you believe
    in a soul, then you and only you, know
    it to exist.
    But if you dont believe, then you know
    it, to yourself, to not exist.
    The in between are left out on purpose :tongue:

    Sorry, I dont intend to offend anyone, but
    just this is what kind of thread I was getting at ~
     
  5. Fallout55

    Fallout55 Banned

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    Personaly I think there is something more than what I can percive from day to day, but it's so mind blowing what ever it is, that its hard for me to even attempt to put into words. soul, god, anything they are all odd concepts in trying to explain what I belive there is constantly lurking over us, its like trying to meassure the unvierse with a 12 inch ruler.


    No offense taken, it's a very intersting topic and poll. :)
    Yes when I meditate is when I fell closest or most intune with this 'thing' but still even then I could not imagine trying to explain it.
     
  6. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Well, this feeling of something looming over you, I
    think you are referring to your astral body that exists
    simultaneously within you, without you, and through you,
    just like the rest of the plane.
    It's there, some dont know about it, but its there.
    But the soul can not be perceived, as we are using
    thought, which is a limited function from the
    essence of the ego (awereness) and honestly,
    the essence of the mind is an illusion, it's not real.
    In order to be in tune with the soul, we need
    samadhi (non-dualistic existance) ~
     
  7. Fallout55

    Fallout55 Banned

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    Right, when I meditate I try to let go of thoughts and just be, the less I function or try to percive things the more I fell it, but then when I return to a normal state and try to talk about what I felt, is when it gets hard. It's hard to explain through actions what you fell through inactions, if that makes any sense.
     
  8. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Of course, I know the feeling of confusion all to well!
    It's just another thing we have to come to accept ~
     
  9. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    thats all religions/beliefs.. either you're with'em or you're damned to whatever the fuck it may be
     
  10. PlaceboAddikt

    PlaceboAddikt Paranoia!

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    I know. I am just starting to learn, and try to figure things out. I am young, and have just started my path. But I know.

    When I first started meditating... well, i started because i would slip into these sort of meditative trances in my day to day life. And I thought I was going insane. So, slowly, I just learned to let it take me over. Like a drug. And... I'm learning so much. And that really, really makes me happy. And.... oddly proud.
     
  11. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Heres what i know.. I am ALIVE.. my pulse is beating.. so im obviously not dead.. and I know that one day my body will shut down.. and i will be DEAD.. beyond that.. i don't know.. nor care really.. i can't really prepare myself for something i don't know.. so i just prepare myself for the fact that i know one day i will die
     
  12. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    i know that souls don't exist. i have studied enough biology, cosmology, cell biology, botany, philosophy, and psychology to be sure.
     
  13. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    ^^^ Souls do not believe in such madness
     
  14. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    my soul does. :)
     
  15. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    ^^^ I sold my soul for a Klondike bar
     
  16. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    This is an untrue statement Joker.
    Dont mean to call you out, but this is misinformation. ~
     
  17. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Namaste!
    I know exactly what you mean Placebo.
    The strangest occurence in my meditations
    was the first time I felt my conciousness
    drift from my "self", and into my higher Self.
    I thought I was losing my mind/dying lol.
    Another strange but beautiful experience was
    the one and yet so far only time I was visited
    by another soul.
    Yogananda appeared to me during what I thought
    was a very basic and meaningless meditation.
    He came and appeared to me after my mind had
    been completley emptied of any concept of
    my self, I was purley lost in the astral plane, and
    then there he was, sitting down looking right
    at me. He never said a word to me, and his features
    were very dull but definitley discernable and
    distinguishable, no doubt it was him. And he looked
    at me with this intense smile and a glow in his
    eyes, then in mere seconds it was over and I
    was right back into my body, and upon opening
    my eyes everything in my vision danced into
    jubilant life, completley high as if I was tripping.
    Much more euphoric and calming though.
    But just being visited by a soul, especially one
    whom I love so dearly and who has made such
    a wonderful impact in my life (I've in a way, accepted
    him as my guru until I meet my physical guru) left
    me with this feeling that all this meditation I do,
    and all these feelings I have regarding God and
    the Soul, the astral plane, and the reality of
    contacting the Soul's of those liberated from samsara,
    is very real, and that I can never feel alone or
    misguided because God is on my side, so long
    as I stay true and respect and love everyone.
    It was so powerful and beyond words, really, but
    though I was a firm believer in God before this moment,
    I used to laugh at stories of people meeting with
    other souls.
    Now, I know for a fact that it is very real.
    Trust me, I have taken psychedelics in the hundereds
    of times, and I know the differance between hallucination
    and reality.
    Om Shanti ~
     
  18. Fallout55

    Fallout55 Banned

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    Yeah I agree, true religious people are accepting of every one.
     
  19. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    that's incredible. i tried meditating a couple times but can't get it right, my noob mind cant focus long enough. i used this site http://here-and-now.org/VSI/Articles/TheoryMed/theoryHow.htm

    its pretty confusing to me [​IMG]
     
  20. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    40oz!
    Havent talked to you in a minute.
    What I do, is sit on the ground, close
    my eyes, and just simply exist.
    That's all it takes to start :)
    Just exist in the most fulfilling
    way you can, perceive every sound
    you hear.
    This is the only life you have in
    this body, live it up :)
     

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