Spiritual experience on an opiate?

I was at a festival with my friend. We walked through the state forest to go smoke some weed. He pulls out a carton of cigarettes and said that half of them were laced with black tar heroin. This was my first time trying any amount of heroin, so I didn't buy much. I traded a little bud and some cash for 3 cigs. I lit my first cig, and with only taking 4 or 5 hits I feel as if my soul was separate from my physical self; it was a total out-of-body experience. My vision seemed a blit blurry from the sides, and the way it came intact with my vision made the whole forest seem so beautiful. The high was extremely intense, and I felt as if I were paralyzed. I felt absolutely sedated, and the only thing I could do was breathe and look up at the trees. I felt extremely connected with the heavens, like I was being touched by a divine spirit. It was a really neat thing to discover, I never felt anything like it.

Has anyone else felt anything like this, even on their first time with any form of heroin? I smoked the other 2 cigs later on and I haven't been that high except my first time.

 

sure have.. very blissful dream like trippy state, prehistoric feeling to it.. i dont dabble in them at all much now, even though I still get them .. ill save them for when I have real pain..



I made this..

 

Haha nice. I love it how you can often make anything in daily life a direct reference to drugs, especially that picture. Like, cereal bowl compares to bowl(pipe), or you'll hear a cool 60's song on the radio or something relating to an acid trip. It's just fascinating how your mind wanders and connects two different things with one another in the universe.

But, what can I say. I'm fucked up on 3 bowls of weed and 40mg of oxycontin, who the hell knows what I'm saying.:sifone:

 

It's feels nice huh. Now what. Ur brain now sends signal that u loved the high and let's do this again. Now the long life of hell can come over u. For what. A good high. Save ur self

 

No.

 

He speaks truth when it comes to opiates. Just use them occasionally and you will be fine tho.

 

Yeh I know.
I had my fair share of opiates, LOTS of 'em:drool5:

 

Get the fuck off the oppie forum section then..... Stupid hater.

 

Not even worth replying to, he doesn't have anything better to do; pity him

 

there is no such thing as a spiritual experience.

what you had was a drug experience.

two different things.

 

Amen. What you felt was your body releasing a whole lot of hormones and neurotransmitters in addition to your opiate receptors being overwhelmed.

Smoking herb on an opiate, provided you aren't already too high, just smoothes things out considerably.

Occasional use is cool. The problem is our brains become trained to jones for what makes us feel good ... an opiate causing a release dopamine will do that.

If you can limit your use and not give in to your brain's demands for more, you will be OK. Give in too much and as one poster put it, hell begins. Is it worth the risk? Only you can answer.

My own experience is that it's hard to resist your brain's dopamine system's siren call. I've had to w/d more than once. Not a lot of fun, but must be done to have any kind of life at all. Also opiates, over time, cause tolerance. It's your body's defense against opiate receptors being overwhelmed on a regular basis. This tolerance makes it necessary to use more and more. Eventually, the good side effects (that warm fuzzy feeling) lessen and the bad side effects (too many to list) increase.

Moderation is key, if possible. Abstinence if moderation is not possible.

Good luck.

 

heroin rushes just feel spiritual because it feels so damn good. but i agree, there's nothing religious or sacred about it.

 

I do not understand this?

Sure you can have a spiritual experience on opiates op. I'm pretty certain it's possible to have spiritual experience on meth and coke binges too. It's not a route I have any desire of taking but it was your experience, who here has the right to tell you what type of experience you had.

 

go do some more drugs, hippie.

 

Oh wow you sound very spiritually grounded. You want to try explaining yourself instead of just being an ass?

 

When I started doing oxycodone while nodding out once I had an Out Of Body Experience as if I was on DXM or Ketamine though more lucid. It was like lucid dreaming but I just couldn't open up my eyes though I could feel that I was floating around the room. With a concentrated effort I woke up...this only lasted 5-8 min at most but it was lovely.

That is about it! lol

 

If you can't have a spiritual experience on drugs than why have Native Americans and such been using mushrooms/peyote/weed etc for thousands of years in religous ceremonies? You telling me the people most in touch with the earth/nature don't know what they are doing?
You can't just tell someone they didn't have a spiritual experience, spirituality isn't something you can touch or see, so it affects people in their own way or how they perceive things.
Hell I could go take a piss and have a spiritual experience, but I suppose if someone says I can't that means I didn't?

 

there is no such thing as a 'spiritual' experience because there is no such thing as a 'spirit'. what one experiences on drugs is a change in brain chemistry and possibly one's mindset if the experience is concrete enough to have a residual effect.

i'm sure that to some, getting fucked up on opiates is a life-changing event and maybe they get philosophical and change the way they view the world, but saying it's a 'spiritual' experience rather than a willful act of self-observation is to overlook and discredit the power of the conscious human mind.

'spiritually' grounded? nah, just grounded in reality.

 

yea eating drugs doesn't make you 'in touch with earth' or wise or spiritual in any way. it means you ate some drugs.

 

So would it be unreasonable by your logic to conclude that love does not exist either?