staturory rape

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by HuckFinn, Jun 6, 2005.

  1. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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  2. DandKsmom

    DandKsmom Member

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    Ok I totally agree with reporting sexual offenders of any kind but my question is: If planned parenthood is forced to relenquish this information, how many young girls are not going to seek help because "I love him and I don't want anything bad to happen to him?" It would happen more often than you think. What about consuling and trying to persuade the girls or their parents to press charges? By forcing the agency to give over this information it will prevent girls from seeking help that they need.

    Just my opinion though.
     
  3. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I'm not sure of the law in this area. I know that doctors and other "required reporters" have to notify the cops if they suspect child abuse, but I don't know if that includes consesual sex. Are all underage women who give birth reported to Social Services as s. rape victims?
     
  4. AutumnAuburn

    AutumnAuburn Senior Member

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    Statutory rape is consentual sex between an older teen and a legal adult, and is not the same as child molestation. There is an age limit there. I imagine the age differs from state to state, but there most definitely is a defined age limit between the two.

    I don't think that statutory rape should be reported. Child molestation yes, but not statutory rape.
     
  5. Faerie

    Faerie Peachy

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    I agree with Autumn... Child molestion shoud be reported but statutory is something different... My mother almost filed statutory against an ex boyfriend of mine... It was not cool...
     
  6. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    My mother was 16 and my father was 21 when they married, they were expecting my sister at the time.
    If my father had gone to jail, I highly doubt that I would be here, nor my 2 brothers. My folks have been married for 36 years this month.

    I know that was a different time, but in those days it was far worse for a young unmarried girl to be in that situation....she was a disgrace to the family and often hidden away.
     
  7. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    while I don't think that young girls having sex with older men or vice versa is ok, having planned parenthood report it is a BAD idea! A lot of those girls go there to get birth control and to protect themselves. If they feel that the people at planned parenthood are going to rat them out (not really what they are doing, but it's what it looks like in the eyes of a scared teeenager) they won't go there and take risks that could have been prevented.

    As for the whole statutory rape thing, every situation varies. Some girls have a real relationship with an older man. Some are old enough and mature enough to handle sex and it's consequenses. Some people end up very hurt from having a sexual relationship with an older person. It all depends on each individual.
     
  8. feministhippy

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    It all depends. There's a huge difference in my eyes between a 16 year old sleeping with a 20 year old and a 13 year old sleeping with a 20 year old. I mean, one situation is fairly normal and I can see why it's a smaller deal, but the other can be dangerous and for the person's safety, it should be reported. I don't care how mature this 13 year old is, a 20 year old who is willing to date a 13 year old is not someone I'm going to trust.

    I think some situations should be reported for these kids' own personal safety.
     
  9. Maggie Sugar

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    Do we have a reference on this?

    This article seemed to be an attempt not only to eliminate the Rape Sheild Law, but to gain inroads for the government to gain access to private medical records at clinics which provide Birth Control and abortion. Something that these people REALLY want. We can say goodbye to the sanctity of the Doctor Patient Relationship if the governmnet gets access to ANYONE'S medcial records.

    I don't think the people in charge of this have the young womyn's best interests at heart, it is just an other attack on Choice. JMO.
     
  10. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    See http://www.childpredators.com/Footnotes.cfm.


    As the article notes, law enforcement already has legal access to such records when there is sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed. Planned Parenthood is arrogantly flouting the law.
     
  11. AutumnAuburn

    AutumnAuburn Senior Member

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    EXACTLY! I couldn't agree more.
     
  12. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    In Nevada, "Statutory Rape" is defined as a sexual act, involving one who is below the age of legal consent. Period.
    It's up to the parent to know his kids judgement.
     
  13. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Statutory rape should be repealed from the books.

    Either you are incapable or immature of what you are consenting to(i.e. a child) or you're not.

    Rape is forced sex. Child Molestation is forced as well, because of the ignorance involved in sexual matters due to the age of the child.

    Statutory rape is not "rape".
     
  14. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Blaubeerkuchen!! Lifetime Supporter

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    To me, the idea of statutor rape is totally insane.

    If a couple, let's say a 16 and a 17 year old are having sex, it's ok. And as soon as the older one turns 18 (or whatever the legal age is) it's a crime? Now how stupid is that?

    We have laws like that here, but they are only applied to very, very rare cases, and it's more about the difference in years, (20 yo, and 13 yo is definately more illegal, then 17 and 20 yo)

    And if such a thing is ever brought to a court, there will be plenty of evaluations from psychologists and stuff on how mature the candidates are.

    But noone is ever going to punish a 20 year old for being with a 16 year old, if the relationship is a normal, non abusive one.
     
  15. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I think I agree with you. Maturity and consent of the parties involved and judicial discretion should always be a top priority.
     
  16. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    You people amaze me. You have no problem with a 30 year old having "consensual" sex with a 15 year old?
     
  17. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Do you even read?

    Either you are old enough to consent (legal) or you're not (illegal).

    If 15 is not, it is coercive.
    If 15 is, it should not be illegal.

    You talk like a 15 yo is a completely ignorant moron. However, if the same 15 yo murdered someone in cold blood...people like you would want to try them as an "adult".

    How hypocritical!
     
  18. AutumnAuburn

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    If I had met my ex-husband 4 years earlier, that's how it would have been. But, we got together when I was 19/20 and he was 34/35. He was 15 years my senior.

    I have always had sex with older men, yes some in their 30s when I was in my teens. I had had the vast majority of my sexual experiences (to date) by the time I was 15 or 16.

    No, a 30 year old and a 15 year old isn't an attractive picture, but I don't think it should be illegal if it is consentual. And no matter how much you think it is wrong, teenagers are having sex, period. There isn't much you can do about it. So teach your children how to have safer sex and how to be responsible. Encourage them to wait, but realize that they may not choose to do that and even if it is illegal, they will still do it, just behind your back. What would you rather have, a child who is doing crazy wild things without your knowledge because they feel oppressed, or a child that is honest and responsible-and heaven forbid-HUMAN?

    Why do you want to fill up the jails with people who are just making love and enjoying one another? Wouldn't you rather save the space for the real rapists or child molesters who are forcing themselves upon others?
     
  19. AutumnAuburn

    AutumnAuburn Senior Member

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    Addendum~

    And upon further thinking on the subject....

    I actually would rather have my 15 year old daughter spend time sexually with an older man, because they generally care more about their partners pleasure, unlike the majority of teen boys who are just out for themselves.

    *No offense to those teens who do care about their partners, you are the exception rather than the rule.*
     
  20. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    I for one (like many others) do not think a 15-year-old is mature enough to make this decision. If 2 teens have sex, no crime has been committed, but I expect a 30-year-old to exercise better judgment.


    I seriously doubt that there are enough statutory rapists/perverts to "fill up" prisons, and I definitely think that's where they belong.

    The only question for me is where to draw the boundaries. I would say that statutory rape should include anyone (adult or teen) who has sex with a minor who is 5 years younger.
     

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