Stoners' thoughts on UF student tasered

I don't know if a lot of people are sick of hearing about it. But, I'm not sick of hearing about it because it was outrageous. Here are the facts:
John Kerry forum - where he is asked questions.
Kid asks him a few questions, then gets really riled up.
John Kerry says he'd like to answer the questions even as the security guards start on the kid.
Security starts to escort him, and he flips out.
He's screaming and resisting. He thinks he is being arrested.
He is escorted further out of the atrium screaming.
Roughly 6 to 7 security/officers are attempting to hold him down.
They are attempting to hold him down in the back of the atrium while the forum is still going on.
The kid is still fighting. They warn him, "I will tase you if you don't stop resisting."
He doesn't stop but says, "Don't tase me bro!"
They tase him inside the atrium, and he's screaming in pain.
People start to get pissed off in the forum.

Isn't this fucked up? In my opinion, the kid should not have been so rowdy and should have cooperated with the police from the get go. Yes, he was being a bitch by fighting and screaming about how he was being arrested. He wasn't being arrested, he was being detained until they escorted him out of the building. That is, until he decided to resist. However, in this day and age, cops and authority figures are trained to and are expected to keep their composure. This college student voicing his opinion did NOT in any way shape or form merit being tased. Cops need to be able to maintain their composure and patience longer than a 2 minute wrastle with some college student.

The cops need to be put in line, people act like worse things won't happen, lest we forget Birmingham.

 

cops should be suspended. there was no reason for this. its fucking rediclous.

hope the kid called the aclu.

video:
cell hpone video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag
video camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro3VDySOBUo (better quality)

 

the cops should be suspended at LEAST, lose their jobs at most.

the kid, while possibly obnoxious, did not appear to be violent or threatening in the least. they were moving him along in the tape i saw. he wasn't exactly helping the process, but he didnt seem resistant to the point where they couldnt get him out of there well enough. the use of a taser is an act of violence, even if its not lethal.

the kid posed no threat to them other than annoyance, and they, officers of the law, used violence on him. unnecessarily violent people should not be allowed to be police officers. i do have some respect for police officers. we need some law and order, when the laws that exist are reasonable laws. i dont think all of ours are, but some are. i dont think cops are inherently bad, i think cops are public servants working for a broken system. cops are SUPPOSED to TRY to protect us. these cops were protecting nobody. they were using unnecessarily violent behavior to subdue someone behaving in a manner they and many others present did not like. its an atrocity.

still, you wouldnt be nearly as likely to be seeing that video on national news if the dude getting tased was a black radical or a foreigner in a bad neighborhood....such news isnt always overlooked, but often is. a lot more of this stuff happens where no cameras are present, a lot of things happen when other folks arent around to witness it. but whoever the victim is, if they're lucky enough for their abuse to come to the public eye, the perpetrators should be strongly reprimanded, ESPECIALLY if they are public servants of any type.

violent assholes should not be allowed to "protect" the public.

 

I just watched 2 different vid's over at pbnation

AND OF COURSE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TASERED!

first off he wont leave the podium, even when the mic is cut off he wont leave, so police attempt to escort him out, never did they try to put cuffs on him at or near the podium

then once they had him up at the top, he continues to resist them, pushes back, and is making a ruckus still, without leaving

and then even when he's on the ground he continues to resist and squirm

These are COPS not just rentapig campus police, imo they did the right thing and the guy was an idiot for what he did, although i'm sure he acomplished much more than he planned with all this unfolding

 

as of my post i just saw what they showed on the news clip. what i said was based on seeing a clip of them dragging him out of the place and then tasing him.

i will watch the full thing, but not right now. i still doubt that i'll be of the opinion that they were in the right to do it, but i might be less against the idea that what happened is as bad as it looked from what i saw.

i still stand by my statement that if the guy wasn't white or if there was no video footage that this wouldnt be a big news story. whether or not this is legitimately as bad as it looked from what i saw, things like this do often happen and are all too rarely brought to light. if it happens that the cops are found to be in the right, its good at least to bring these complaints to the public's eye - we need transparency to maintain any resemblence of a fair society. we need the ability to keep an eye on whats going on.

it seems occasionally crying wolf is less harmful than never saying anything at all, never questioning whats going on.

 

Man... I'm COMPLETELY against "police brutality" but the kid WAS warned, and they WERE simply going to take him away. He decided to jerk himself away and start to run, and cause alot of action. And while not "resisting" or fighting back, he was still making it almost impossible for them to CALMLY control him. They tasered him, and THEN he obeyed and walked out with them... so yes... it was obviously necessary.

I do feel bad for the kid. And I'm sure if that were me, I wouldn't think being tased was necessary, because he REALLY thought they were arresting him. That's why he fought, and they couldn;t get it through his head that they were just wanting him to leave, so I feel they had to do it.
He was warned.
I would've done the same thing he did though.

 

he was resisting although not alot
but theres no reason why 4 security officers cant cuff and detain him
theres no need to use a taser in that situation
and i hate the fact that even though he said that he would answer his question they still took him away
thats ridiculous

 

That's fucked up. He was being unco-operative but not violent. The reason cops should have those weapons is for defence if someone is acting in a threatening or violent manner. The guy, despite being an awkward pain in the arse, is not behaving in a manner which poses a threat to the officers or anyone else. A completely unnecessary and over the top reaction by pathetic little people.

Over here they are soon introducing tasers to 10 police forces in England for some -not all- officers with no firearms experience. Previously they were only available to firearms units which are never on the streets and are only called in a big situation. Police getting weapons, ID cards and U-turn politics are just a few fucking reasons I'm out of this country asap...

 

Regardless of the fact that the kid was acting like a total jackass, cops are told that the only time a taser should be used is when the criminal, person, or whatever poses a threat the the police, or to civilians. This guy was clearly no threat to anyone. He was just some stubborn journalist in training.

 

he was clearly not in possession of a weapon or anything, he was just some loud kid yelling in an echo-y room. wtf.... and they're called "peace officers"?!

 

Tazing shouldn't have happened in that situation. The kid wasn't a physical threat.

 

It's pretty rediculous that this happened, but come
on, screaming in pain?
I've had those put on me by "friends" and police, and
it doesnt really hurt all that much lol.

 

bottom line is this:

he was on private property, when he was asked to leave private property he did not comply, therefor he was attemped to be escorted out, when he resisted the escort, more force was used which he resisted, when the three officers figured they could not escort him out on their own power, they tazered him

haha once again "hipforums" lives up to it's name, as all the other forums i'm on, not one person said it was excessive lol, and on more immature forums people are just like "taz3 that hippy! omgwtf?!"

 

4 cops? They could have just carried the bugger.

 

They did carry him. He was picked up by one of the bigger ones and then they started to escort him, once he was detained and in cuffs on the ground they used it. I think it was excessive, they had no reason to use that kind of force on him, he was not a threat to anyone there including the police. At worst they should have just dragged him out. I think are world is becoming more of a police state everyday.

edit: what really pissed me off was the asshole saying taze him taze him, and the kid on the side row laughing the hole time.. how can you sit there and laugh at someone being shocked?

 

^ because it's funny?

if i was there i would have laughed too, the guy is a tool and brought it on himself

 

That kid was just fuking stupid no one else had to stand up ranting on he deserved it.
what the fuk did he think would happend, even tho there campus police they r still a form of law which you have to obey and he didnt so they WTF OWNED HIM!

If any thing all the cops shoulda tazerd him at once then been like goin to stop being a dick now?

 

Both parties handled themselves poorly. That's really all I have to say.

 

yeah, tazer-trigger happy cops are such a good thing

 

STFU you fucking canadian. You don't know what we deal with down here. Your cops are nice, gentle, and laid back so of course you can take that approach really easily over the net.

The guy was a fucking tool, but UF/gainesville cops are known for being aggressive, irrational, and violent. People can die from getting tased. He was on the ground. They could have just cuffed him and escorted him out, although I personally don't even think they should have interfered in the first place. They should all be fired, and the ones who tased him charged with assault with a lethal weapon and battery. I think people need to start fighting back more when it comes to these fucked up police, but I really don't know how we could do that.